GUILTY Italy - Finnegan Elder, 19 & Gabriel Hjorth, 18, US students arrested, police murder, 26 July 2019

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    I'm a bit torn on this. I understand the Italian law of joint enterprise (or whatever term they use) but I'm not convinced Hjorth should face the same charge or sentence. Do we know if it's been confirmed whether he knew Elder was carrying the knife?

    Elder - lock him up and throw away the key. He repeatedly stabbed Cerciello, it doesn't matter whether he was a cop or not, it was a brutal murder.
     
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    I agree
     
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    This is where I find it confusing because in the details I have read it says that the carabinerie were at the hotel arresting them shortly afterwards which links in with the quick removal of bloodied clothes stashed in the ceiling as tho there was no time to do anything further so how can it be that they were preparing to leave Italy ? In what way ? Again I’ve read that flights were booked but they wouldn’t have had time if the account given by the carabineri is accurate.
    I also don’t believe the caribineri identified themselves and that fits with plain clothes and no cuffs and only one weapon . Therefore it could be argued that yes they deserve the book thrown at them but the addition of extra punishment for him being a LE and it being an aggravating factor that was known in advance? Im Not so sure . Either way he lost his life so RIP to the officer and condolences to his family. A hard lesson learned for these entitled youths .
     
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    The "arresting them shortly afterwards" was in fact about eight hours. The stabbing of Mario Cerciello Rega happened at about 3 a.m., he died at hospital at 4 a.m., and the police came to the room of FE and GNH shortly after 10.55 a.m., after a phone call from GNH to his uncle.
    The timeline is from this article: 2 California college students accused of killing Italian police officer - '32 Seconds: A Deadly Night in Rome'
    It gave them plenty of time to get tickets, and time to get in contact with relatives, and girlfriends.
     
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