Japan:9.0 Earthquake-Tsunami -Reactor Status #6

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    Search for Bodies Edges Closer to Crippled Nuclear Plant

    Quote: Police officials from Fukushima Prefecture said the search for bodies was being conducted in an area about four miles from the Daiichi plant. The police said radiation levels had dropped sufficiently to allow workers to safely look for victims of last month’s earthquake and tsunami.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/15/world/asia/15bodies.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss
     
  4. essies

    essies "We're all just walking each other home." Ram Dass

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    [video=youtube;0GsO95aZ22E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GsO95aZ22E[/video]

    April 13, 2011
    Arnold Gundersen discusses the Fukushima Accident Severity Level Being Raised to Level 7, saying the Fukushima disasters is 1,000 times worse than the nuclear engineers who built the plant ever anticipated
     
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    Tepco Said to Plan for Three Months of Cooling at Fukushima

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    Engineers at Tokyo Electric rejected a proposal to flood reactors at the damaged plant, which could lower temperatures in days rather than months, according to the person, who asked not to be identified because he isn’t authorized to speak to the media. Instead, the utility is pumping in water and venting off steam, a method called “feed and bleed.”

    and

    A make-shift combination of fire hoses and pumps being used to cool the reactor isn’t providing enough water, according to the person. Temperatures that measured 204.5 degrees Celsius (400 degrees Fahrenheit) inside the vessel yesterday, or twice boiling point, cause the water to turn into steam, creating a sauna-like cooling system that’s less effective, the person said.

    Flooding the space between the pressure vessel and the surrounding containment could bring temperatures down in days rather than months, according to the person.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...s-needed-to-stabilize-fukushima-reactors.html
     
  6. essies

    essies "We're all just walking each other home." Ram Dass

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    [video=youtube;pcZyDdMqDHk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcZyDdMqDHk[/video]


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_Z55WRrZnw
    With Record levels of radiation being found in fish and vegetables Japan says milk is magically safe to eat.

    WHO says there is no need to take new public health measures after Fukushima upgraded to disaster of same level as Chernobyl after several days ago the real risk was food becoming contaminated.
    I guess we'll just wait and see in 10 to 20 years if more precautions were necessary!!:banghead:
     
  7. ThoughtFox

    ThoughtFox Expecting the Unexpected

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    "Feed and Steam" = Radioactive Clouds

    :banghead:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/13/us-japan-tsunami-predictions-idUSTRE73C5IV20110413

    Japan's northeast suffered many large past tsunamis

    (Reuters) - Japan's battered northeastern coast suffered many large tsunamis in the past and nuclear power stations there should have been built to withstand these huge walls of water, a scientist said on Thursday.

    (snip)

    ..."It's known to have happened before and it's well documented and so when they built a nuclear power plant they should have provided for a tsunami of the same size," Geller said.

    "But they planned for a tsunami to be 5.6 meters and the actual tsunami was about 15 meters, so it completely overwhelmed the defenses."

    Geller said all nuclear plants in Japan should be reviewed to ensure they are tsunami-resistant.

    "They definitely should, they are almost all on the oceanfront. You need a lot of water to cool them," he said.

    More at Link
     
  8. Daisyjane

    Daisyjane "All the clouds are clearing, and I think we're ov

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    http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/04/85532.html

    The concentration levels of radioactive iodine and cesium in groundwater near the troubled Nos. 1 and 2 reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant have increased up to several dozen times in one week, suggesting that toxic water has seeped from nearby reactor turbine buildings or elsewhere, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Thursday.

    The announcement came as the plant operator continued to grapple with pools of highly radioactive water found on the plant's premises, with the level of polluted water filling an underground trench edging up again after the company finished pumping out around 660 tons of water.

    According to the latest findings, a groundwater sample taken April 6 near the No. 1 reactor turbine building showed radioactive iodine-131 of 72 becquerels per cubic meter, with the concentration level growing to 400 becquerels as of Wednesday. The concentration level of cesium-134 increased from 1.4 becquerels to 53 becquerels.
     
  9. dsntslp

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    That's a HUGE increase, isn't it? WOW!
     
  10. Daisyjane

    Daisyjane "All the clouds are clearing, and I think we're ov

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    Yes, Iodine has gone up x6 and cesium is x30. Also sounds like they can't pinpoint just where it's leaking from.
     
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    essies "We're all just walking each other home." Ram Dass

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    Girl, 8, among tsunami victims denied help after fears they could spread radiation to other survivors
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    An eight-year-old girl is among scores of people refused medical help or shelter in Japan because of fears they could be contaminated by radiation and could pass it on to others.
    People who have been made homeless as a result of the leakage of radiation at the Fukushima nuclear plant, 135 miles north of Tokyo, have to be screened and then given an 'all clear' certificate.
    If they do not have a certificate, they are being told they cannot be allowed into evacuation centres amid fears that they might be a 'hibakusha' - a person contaminated by radiation.

    The ban is a reminder of the discrimination suffered by irradiated survivors of the atomic bombings at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Misguided rumours suggested they could make other people ill.
    The father of an eight-year-old girl said she was refused treatment for a skin condition in a hospital in Fukushima city because she did not have a screening certificate.
    Mr Takayuki Okamura told the Mainichi Daily newspaper: 'I am worried already with my life as an evacuee. It was a real shock to have (mydaughter's) appointment refused
    more at link-


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...spread-radiation-survivors.html#ixzz1JWBarLOU
     
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    And how do they know that people who have previously been issued a certificate have not sneaked back in to gather belongings and are now contaminated anyway?

    I thought they could just bathe them to decontaminate them, isn't that what they said?

    8 years old, refused medical treatment? So very sad :(

    They need to dispel myths and do dome serious educating with facts over there.
     
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    Interesting how discrimination rears its ugly head... :cool:
     
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    Store blood cells from Fukushima workers: Lancet

    Quote: A group of Japanese doctors on Friday urged workers at the Fukushima nuclear plant to have their blood stemcells stored as a safeguard should they be exposed to life-threatening levels of radiation.

    http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chan...tore-blood-cells-fukushima-workers-lancet-282

    Invest now! I see many economic boons opening up through via this disaster. jmo
     
  15. Daisyjane

    Daisyjane "All the clouds are clearing, and I think we're ov

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    Long article here, but most concerning to me was


    Workers were firing water into the pond from a distance in an effort to prevent the fuel from overheating and releasing radioactive contaminants, but fluid collecting in an adjacent flood control container triggered an incorrect warning that the pond had been filled. Personnel halted water transfers to the pool for a number of days in response to the warning, allowing heat and radiation levels to increase even though the fuel was thought to have remained submerged, Japanese Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency Deputy Director General Hidehiko Nishiyama said. Water spraying began again on Wednesday.

    http://www.globalsecuritynewswire.org/gsn/nw_20110414_5466.php
     
  16. Quiche

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    I bet a lot of the gauges are fried! That's quite a blunder.
     
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    Fukushima Daiichi Is a 'Ticking Time Bomb'

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    DR. MICHIO KAKU: Well, Tokyo Electric has been in denial, trying to downplay the full impact of this nuclear accident. However, there's a formula, a mathematical formula, by which you can determine what level this accident is. This accident has already released something on the order of 50,000 trillion becquerels of radiation. You do the math. That puts it right smack in the middle of a level 7 nuclear accident. Still, less than Chernobyl. However, radiation is continuing to leak out of the reactors. The situation is not stable at all. So, you're looking at basically a ticking time bomb. It appears stable, but the slightest disturbance -- a secondary earthquake, a pipe break, evacuation of the crew at Fukushima -- could set off a full-scale meltdown at three nuclear power stations, far beyond what we saw at Chernobyl.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/democracy-now/kaku_b_848770.html

    Eek.

    eta: good video interview
     
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    essies "We're all just walking each other home." Ram Dass

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    I've seen these videos on the internet before and heard the theories of at least the eastern part of Japan slipping and thought it was far fetched. But now-I'm not so sure the idea is that out there. Apparently there are some surveys that lend some credence to at least part of Japan in danger of slippage into a deep trench off the coast.:waitasec:
    [video=youtube;TwVhaAC2t-U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwVhaAC2t-U[/video]
    OFFICIAL: JAPAN SINKING, COULD FALL INTO NEW TRENCH IN OCEAN, Hawaii Civil Defense On Alert for EPIC Tsunami?
    Geologists are releasing their findings from the massive undersea earthquake and warning that the eastern coastal regions of Japan are in danger of falling into the trench created in the sea floor. Quote:After the earthquake it was hard to collect GPS data points. The results during an earthquake in the east-southeast direction showed moving about 5.3m for Oshika Peninsula, about 1.2m found that there was a new settlement . Moreover, the continued gradual deformation after an earthquake was in wide range around the focal area, after a change from large earthquakes it was greater than 20 cm.

    The areas closest to the epicenter of the quake jumped a full 4 meters (13 feet) closer to the United States, geophysicist Ross Stein at the United States Geological Survey told The New York Times. As Japan's eastern coastline sunk, the tsunami's waves rolled in.
    The Geospatial Information Authority of Japan (GSI) is the only national organization that conducts basic survey and mapping and instructs related organizations to clarify the conditions of land in Japan and that provides the results of surveys to help improve this land.
    Postseismic Slip Distribution Model
    We constructed a postseismic slip (afterslip) distribution model using surface displacement data observed by the GPS Earth Observation Network System (GEONET) for the 2011 off the Pacific coast of Tohoku Earthquake.

    # Eastward displacements are observed along the Pacific coast from Aomori Prefecture to Chiba Prefecture.
    # The observed postseismic displacement partly includes crustal deformation due to aftershocks.
    # A postseismic slip expands in and around the inferred coseismic slip area . In particular, relative large slips are estimated in the northwest and in the south (off Choshi) of the coseismic slip area.
    http://www.gsi.go.jp/cais/topic110315.2-index-e.html
    http://www.gsi.go.jp/cais/topic110315-index-e.html
    http://www.gsi.go.jp/common/000059180.pdf
    http://www.gsi.go.jp/common/000059181.pdf
    http://www.gsi.go.jp/common/000059603.pdf
    http://www.gsi.go.jp/common/000060226.pdf
    http://www.gsi.go.jp/common/000060228.pdf
    http://www.gsi.go.jp/common/000060230.pdf
    http://www.gsi.go.jp/common/000060236.pdf
    http://www.gsi.go.jp/common/000060237.pdf
    http://www.gsi.go.jp/common/000060232.pdf
    http://www.gsi.go.jp/common/000060233.pdf
    http://www.gsi.go.jp/common/000060234.pdf
    http://www.gsi.go.jp/common/000060235.pdf
    http://www.gsi.go.jp/common/000060238.pdf
    http://www.gsi.go.jp/ENGLISH/index.html
    http://www.jma.go.jp/jma/en/News/2011_spring_tide.html


    What do you all think?:dunno:
     
  19. Daisyjane

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    http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/04/85725.html

    Tidbits:

    Nuclear fuel inside the crippled reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi power plant has partially melted and settled in granular form at the bottom of pressure vessels, according to an analysis by the Atomic Energy Society of Japan made public by Friday.

    The panel has assumed that the fuel has slowly melted and become granular as it was quenched when it fell into the cooling water and then settled at the bottom of the reactor pressure vessels.

    Parts of the fuel rods in the Nos. 1 and 2 reactors have apparently been exposed, while those in the No. 3 reactor have been completely submerged in water, according to the panel.

    Meanwhile, small amounts of plutonium believed to have been released as a result of the ongoing disaster have been detected in soil samples taken at the nuclear complex in Fukushima Prefecture, according to TEPCO.

    The agency said, meanwhile, that pressure inside the No. 1 reactor has dropped somewhat, an indication that air inside the reactor has leaked outside, but that no major changes in radiation levels have been detected.
     
  20. Daisyjane

    Daisyjane "All the clouds are clearing, and I think we're ov

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    from my link above:

    Also Friday, the plant operator, Tokyo Electric Power Co., said it will pay up to 1 million yen to residents of each of the roughly 50,000 households within 30 kilometers of the plant who have been forced to evacuate their homes or remain indoors, as provisional compensation for the damage caused by the crisis.

    That's $11954.57 per household, total of $597,728,500 in US dollars.
     
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