Statement by JR: "The investigators were retained by our attorneys, and they stated to me that the principal purpose of those investigators was to prepare a defense in the case that the police might bring a charge against me." Really? Even then! And they are probably furiously at work again, harder than before, given the shocking and rippling news that broke a week ago. And I think well they should be. Starting this thread is a result of my recent final conviction that John Ramsey murdered his daughter, and should face charges of Felony Murder, at the very minimum. However, given the information I have considered which has been disclosed on this case, I feel a charge of Murder might be possible. But, let's get started with why I suspect he alone is responsible for JB's death. Because there are more reasons than would be proper to put into one opening post, I will capsulize and say that the only way all of the available evidence we have seen fits, is to believe that JR had been previously molesting his daughter, and had become aware that Patsy might have become suspicious of his behaviors. I think he also had begun to realize that JB might not be willing to continue to participate in sharing their secret. Achieving a tryst with her the night before the trip might have been an attempt to alleviate all fears. Until recently, there were two stumbling blocks for me in seeing JR as a lone perpetrator against JB. 1. That Patsy was most likely the writer of the Ransom Note, and 2. That Patsy made the 911 call because they had decided not to dispose of her body outside the home (which could have been for several reasons) so they could establish reasons for why she would eventually be found dead. The kidnapper would have to have killed JB so she would eventually come back to the R's dead, and they could have her body for a 'proper burial'. There are no conclusive, scientifically valid ways to determine the author of an unsigned scripted document without the writer taking ownership. Though there were intelligent decisions in conclusion that Patsy could not be eliminated as the note author, there were also valid statements to the contrary. The break that John got in promoting his innocence was by being eliminated as author of the note - by his own hired "experts", even though there were a few others who did not agree. I wonder what some futher analysis would show if he was required to present more extensive exemplars than the meager ones which were accepted, in comparison to so many presented by Patsy and others. We suspect the note was written in a manner to disguise the author. Some have even suggested that the trauma of the incident produced a less than perfect "Patsy" script, or that she wrote it with her left hand. But what if the note was simply written by someone who had not totally perfected the "Patsy" script? We know that John had a full military career focused on computer technology, and then took enough skills with him into a civilian life to build a lucrative business based on computer technology which included software production. With his complete knowledge of computer technology, is it impossible to think that he could have created a "Patsy" font simply by using examples of her own handwriting from within their home? Some of the missing pages from Patsy's notepad might have had enough examples of notes on them to be scanned into a computer. Otherwise, there should have been other documents in the home that could have been used. The scanned script could have been transformed into font using software quite available at the time, and then rewritten into a new software application by John. As a career military officer in this field, having progressed into connections with Lockheed Martin, do you doubt his skills? The new software could have produced a document to be hand copied onto the notepad pages. The discrepancies in the script between what would have positively been identified as Patsy's handwriting might have been the result of some of John's own scripting methods, which some, including myself, think possible. It would have been impossible for John to perfectly copy the "Patsy font" without a good amount of practice ahead of time, but since he was known to be detail oriented, he would have done a respectable job. Especially using a felt tip pen, which always leaves a lesser technique quality. A note here: The matching pen used to write it was placed back into the holder. John was the neat freak, not Patsy. Picking up and replacing would have been second nature to him, not Patsy. Now, the 911 call. Even though I've seen it said a thousand times, when I came across it in a bumped posting of Chrishope's just a couple of days ago, it finally sunk in. It was the time of the call that convinced me Patsy was making the call in all honesty, thinking she had found a genuine ransom note and that JB had been kidnapped. The call was made at the time that fit the previous schedule that the R's would have had to keep in order to make their morning flight. JR had awakened and was showering when Patsy came down to put on coffee before having to wake the kids up to get going. I suspect that the recounting of her actions, and the time frame to Officer French is only slightly awry from actuality. The only thing I think Patsy did not account accurately is the fact that she did not awaken and completely "ready" herself for the trip, including dressing, fresh hair and makeup. I think Patsy laid down in another location of the house somewhere, exhausted from the previous day's activites and evening trip preparations, thinking she would just rest a few minutes, and instead awakened with a start just in time to refresh herself enough to start her day, which is when she found JR in the shower. Remember, she also appeared to the police without any visible signs of the type of wear and tear that certainly should have happpend while participating in JB's death during the night. If Patsy made the call as part of the kidnap scenario staging, to establish a reason to assure JB's death, wasn't the call was made too early? Why not wait to call the police and invite them, along with all their friends in to contaminate the scene after the time for the call from the kidnappers came and went without being received. All they had to do was make preparations to get the cash, a small sum in small bills, (which JR would have easily done as it probably could have been ready cash at their local bank) having a reason to leave the house (probably with JB's body in the trunk). JR driving away in the neighborhood, even if he was by himself (neighbors might have thought he was going to the plane early to help ready for the flight) would not have looked suspicious to anyone. JR could have disposed of the body and returned from the bank with the money, and they may also have had time at the house for getting Burke from the home and safely sequestered away with a trustworthy friend. Of course, there also would have had to be a simple call to the pilot and the older children to tell them they would be delayed (for whatever reason), which would have bought them the time they needed to get past the 10am deadline. The older children might have been assured they should proceed on to Minneapolis, where they eventually catch up to them. No suspicions that way. As soon as the 10 am deadline passed, the call to the police could have been made, and on with the show. Act I: 10 am - Police are called notifying of a kidnapping (body really is out of house). Police are shown the note, told the call did not come in, and now there is reason to think something went wrong. The money is waiting, (which will not have to be used), a search is initiated, friends are called in to contaminate the crime scene, er..excuse me, to console the R's, and they notify the pilot and kids to circumvent their flights at whichever airport is necessary and bring them to Boulder. Act II: The day is haywire, JB's body is found, totally contaminated by surrounding debris, and now the body will be theirs for a "proper burial". For a short time, they will be spared immediate pressure from the police, since they are victims, and can be safely and sanely escorted from the house into the company of caring friends. Finale: JR and PR have succeeded in covering up the brutal, heinous crime committed against their daughter, thinking they have fooled the world into believing she was kidnapped and killed by intruders, who got in through a break in a basement window. But here's the thing - the call went in to 911 at 6 am. Because Patsy had found the note, panicked and without reading through it very carefully, and after running to check JB's room and yell for John, went right to a phone and called police, probably just as JR was coming into her vacinity with Burke tailing right behind him, since Dad had gone to his room and checked on him, and he had previously heard the distressed voice of his mother. JR's rice was cooked right then and there. Yes, Patsy said John told her to call the police. She said that calmly in interviews held at a later date after John had plenty of time to work on her and convince her that they would both be incriminated if she didn't make it look like he wanted the police called, which would give him protection. I'm sure he assured her over and over again he would take total care of protecting the entire family, but could only do so if they worked together as a team to portray their innocence. In another later interview, she recanted and said she was the one who had decided to call 911. Possibly just sick and tired of trying to keep up the lie, because she had suspected JR all along, but it is possible she just slipped up, and truth came out. I realize most of this is theory, and maybe should be in the Theory Thread. But what I would invite you to do now, in this thread, is consider the aspects and think about how they might apply in order to bring charges against JR. And the chance arrow could find the target. If we work together to look for the "reasonable doubt" as a jury would be instructed, then maybe once and for all we can let this case rest and accept whatever outcome prevails. Now that Kolar stated publicly, in response to my question on Tricia's show on Monday, that he agrees that Garnett must not have the evidence needed to prosecute, I could once and for all dismiss myself from the hold of injustice in this case, if you all will help me out either in thinking JR murdered his daughter, but will probably get away with it, or I should really adjust my theory (again) to look at a possibility that leaves no option for prosecution. Good, bad, or ugly, let's discuss!! PS: To those other posters who have long shared my opinion and have posted accordingly, thank you - otherwise I might still be going round in circles trying to make sense of it all to myself.