Jodi Arias TAKES THE STAND #35 *may contain graphic and adult content*

Discussion in 'Travis Alexander Trial - The State vs. Jodi Arias' started by JusticeBob, Feb 8, 2013.

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  1. JusticeBob

    JusticeBob New Member

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    First time poster, long time lurker--it's nice to meet you all.

    I've been following the Jodi Arias trial closely, and it seems like the self-defense narrative goes something like this: "Travis and I had sex all day. I took photos of Travis in the shower. I dropped the camera. Travis got mad. Travis attacked me because I dropped the camera. I defended myself...."

    After seeing the most graphic photos of a butchered Travis Alexander this morning (I was searching the Web to find the shower photos so I could try to piece together the sequence of events, but unfortunately, I stumbled upon more than I wanted to see), I think the brutality of the crime is so extreme, her chances for acquittal are slim-to-none to begin with.

    That said, this is the wrong self-defense narrative. The idea that Travis would attack Jodi because she dropped a camera is phenomenally far-fetched, and he really has no history of violence. It also doesn't explain why she brought the gun to Mesa and had the knife and the gun at the ready to kill him.

    A better strategy (which would also challenge the prosecution's theory of premeditation) would have been to say that Jodi brought the gun to Mesa because Travis Alexander had a sexual fantasy of receiving oral sex with Jodi at knifepoint and at gunpoint. When he went to the shower, he told her to give him oral sex and he held the knife to her throat. Then, he started getting too rough with her, she believed he was going to slash her throat, and she fought back. She was so terrified that she later shot him to make sure he was dead.

    To me, this is a much more plausible scenario than Travis attacking Jodi because she dropped a camera. Also, this fits in well with the idea that he "lived a double life" and liked "kinky sex," which the evidence somewhat supports. By contrast, there is no evidence to support the idea that he was just some violent hothead who would have freaked out because of a dropped camera.

    By the way, I think Jodi Arias is 100% guilty. I just think this would have been a better defense for her.
     
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  3. tlcya

    tlcya Well-Known Member

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    :welcome: out of lurk mode JusticeBob. Good thing you are not at the defense table, lol. Your self defense fairy tale does seem to make more sense than the one being told by the defense for sure.

    I agree with the points you've made about the current defense story of events versus your more plausible lie about self defense.

    :) Hope to see you around the threads.
     
  4. ScarlettScarpetta

    ScarlettScarpetta When the going gets tough, drink coffee

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    Welcome. I think it is plausible that she dropped the camera and he got mad. I think what did her in was the neck wound. That is a defenseless act. Maybe the shooting, Possibly the stabbing can be explained. The neck wound. No. There is no reason for that.

    I saw it unexpectedly too. It is is awful. how one person can do that to another... Ill never get..
     
  5. AndreaBingham

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    I think the best defense strategy of all would be to shut up with her stupid lies, show some sort of remorse for her vile act, and pay the price for what she did.
     
  6. fran

    fran Former Member

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    Please continue the discussion here ..............
     
  7. Linda7NJ

    Linda7NJ New Member

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    First:)

    What time are they due back?

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  8. nursebeeme

    nursebeeme Registered User

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    timeline and media *no discussion* thread


    Links to live media coverage:


    http://www.kpho.com/
    http://www.azfamily.com/
    http://www.hlntv.com/shows/insession
    https://www.facebook.com/InSession
    https://twitter.com/InSession
    https://twitter.com/search?q=#jodiarias&src=typd


    timeline by poster rmt:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...dFl4X1V3YkZXazU0X25pQndhNVVmb Xc&output=html


    POLL Thread

    COURT DOCKET (click case history and enter Jodi Arias)


    ask your legal questions here and our verified attorneys will give an answer:

    Jodi Arias Legal Question and Answer Thread *no discussion* - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


    Websleuths chat:
    Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

    discuss the receipts and checks here:
    Arias Trial; Compare the receipts and the monetary transactions - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

    justice for Travis ribbon:
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=30042&d=1361466019


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    [video=youtube;Q07NxRGYfSg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q07NxRGYfSg[/video]

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    Travis Victor Alexander
    July 28, 1977 - June 4, 2008
    http://i46.tinypic.com/96kyhj.png

    Summary of case and key dates:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2387245.html
    Crime Scene Photographs:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2412031.html
    Detective's Investigative Report:
    http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.c...tionreport.pdf
    Autopsy Report:
    http://cnninsession.files.wordpress....visautopsy.pdf


    BLOGS AND MYSPACE
    Travis' blog: http://travisalexander.blogspot.com/
    Travis' myspace: http://www.myspace.com/tvalexander
    Defendants' blog: http://jodiarias.blogspot.com/
    Defendants' myspace: http://www.myspace.com/jodiarias
    Defendants' other myspace: http://www.myspace.com/jfineart

    WS MEMBER RMT's TIMELINE
    https://sites.google.com/site/jodiariastrial/
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...hNVVmbXc&gid=0

    MARICOPA COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT
    Jodi Ann Arias DOB 7/1980
    Public Access to Criminal Court Case Information
    Case History, Case# CR2008-031021
    Criminal Court Case History
    Minute Entries, Case# CR2008031021
    Clerk of the Superior Court Minute Entries

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  9. nursebeeme

    nursebeeme Registered User

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    memorial video posted by member britskate on the last thread:

    [video=youtube;Q07NxRGYfSg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q07NxRGYfSg[/video]
     
  10. TigerBalm

    TigerBalm Pray for all the missing and innocent people whose

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    Travis Victor Alexander
    July 28, 1977 - June 4, 2008
    http://i46.tinypic.com/96kyhj.png

    Summary of case and key dates:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2387245.html
    Crime Scene Photographs:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2412031.html
    Detective's Investigative Report:
    http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.c...tionreport.pdf
    Autopsy Report:
    http://cnninsession.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/redactedtravisautopsy.pdf


    BLOGS AND MYSPACE
    Travis' blog: http://travisalexander.blogspot.com/
    Travis' myspace: http://www.myspace.com/tvalexander
    Defendants' blog: http://jodiarias.blogspot.com/
    Defendants' myspace: http://www.myspace.com/jodiarias
    Defendants' other myspace: http://www.myspace.com/jfineart

    WS MEMBER RMT's TIMELINE
    https://sites.google.com/site/jodiariastrial/
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ak0vUAK8UbSndFl4X1V3YkZXazU0X25pQndhNVVmbXc&gid=0

    MARICOPA COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT
    Jodi Ann Arias DOB 7/1980
    Public Access to Criminal Court Case Information
    Case History, Case# CR2008-031021
    Criminal Court Case History
    Minute Entries, Case# CR2008031021
    Clerk of the Superior Court Minute Entries

    MEDIA COVERAGE
    ABC15 Jodi Arias Murder Trial
    ABCNews Jodi Arias
    CBSNews Crimesider
    CNN (HLN) show transcripts
    FOX10News Jodi Arias Trial
    HLNtv Jodi Arias
    Huff Post Jodi Arias
    KPHO Jodi Arias

    FACEBOOK
    Beth Karas InSession
    David Lohr
    In Session
    In Memory of Travis Alexander
    JaneVelezMitchellHLN
    Justice4Travis
    NancyGraceHLN

    TWITTER
    #TravisAlexander
    #JodiArias
    #Arias
    @ABC
    @BethKaras
    @chriswnews
    @courtpio
    @David_Lohr
    @InSession
    @jvelezmitchell
    @maryellenabc15
    @michaelbkiefer
    @NancyGraceHLN
    @shannahogan
    @VinniePolitan

    TRIAL LIVE STREAMING
    Trial starts at 10:30am MST (GMT -7:00) (12:30pm EST)
    http://www.abc15.com/generic/news/region_phoenix_metro/central_phoenix/Jodi-Arias-trial-Live-video-
    http://www.azfamily.com/home/Watch-LIVE-Jodi-Arias-murder-trial-185415702.html
    http://www.azcentral.com/live/?event=011613-jodi-arias-trial
    http://www.kpho.com/category/224303/cbs-5-local-live-streaming
    http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/01/jodi-arias-trial-livestream/
     
  11. nursebeeme

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    Rules that need addressed are below:

    1) We are a discussion board that is victim friendly. This thread is to discuss the trial. There is a reason why the words **adult content** are in the title of this thread. Some of the content may be offensive to some. If it happens in the trial you can discuss it.

    2) DO NOT DISCUSS OTHER POSTERS! I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS HAPPENING AGAIN.

    3) Don't tell others how to post. This thread is to discuss the trial and if you don't like a particular topic that is being discussed change the subject or roll past the post.

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    You are all good peeps..

    Now get back to werk

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  14. nursebeeme

    nursebeeme Registered User

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    Folks: if you are just joining the thread.... NO off color or sexual jokes please. Discuss the testimony only. :nurse:
     
  15. Candy_Pickletoes

    Candy_Pickletoes New Member

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  16. AfterSunset

    AfterSunset Sunset on Kentucky Lake

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    Really I've been accused my whole life of such expressive facials...most of the time I'm so not aware of rolling my eyes..etc...I would need to wear a dark veil to totally cover my facial expressions if I ever found myself in the position Travis's family is in.


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  17. Candy_Pickletoes

    Candy_Pickletoes New Member

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    No...Third

    1:30 AZ time...sorry, I'm on the east coast.
     
  18. RadarLuv

    RadarLuv New Member

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    Dang, that was all kinds of messed up.....lol

    There was no link leading to the opening of this thread. Just fyi
     
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    Rosemary Pierce New Member

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    While listening to that tape this was all I was picturing....because Jodi kept saying it! [​IMG]
     
  20. Candy_Pickletoes

    Candy_Pickletoes New Member

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    I am the exact same way, I wear every single emotion right on my face and I don't even realize I do it. In fact, if I were to get angry at something that was being testified to, I turn incredibly red and get blotchy on my chest.
     
  21. Vresia

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    I cannot imagine trying to defend JA. I am impressed that the defense was able to come up with and follow through on a defense theory, as ridiculous as it is. Nurmi has been more successful that I ever thought possible in decreasing the chance that JA will get the death penalty. This endless recounting of the minutia of JA's life through the voice of a frail, victimy, low self-esteemy JA could well work on one of the members of the heavily male jury. The pedophile allegation went too far but I think Nurmi is otherwise doing an excellent job. He really has so little to work with.

    I am dying to see how JM approaches cross-examination. I would love to know how he organizes his thoughts in preparation for this- JA has given his so much to work with.
     
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