He was interviewed and asked this morning, if the rumor was true, that DP had been calling and calling him, trying to get him to be his lawyer. Joe said, yes it was true, but comparing EVS and DP, he said you could control the kid in the Holloway case. But DP is someone, whose his own worse enemy and has already done himself damage. And he didn't think he would listen. He doesn't sound too interested in taking the case.