I don't think the Ramsey's are guilty of killing JonBenet. But sometimes after reading some of their interviews,you have to wonder what the heck is going on. For instance,here are snippets of John's interview with Lou Smit: 5 LOU SMIT: How far is the Whites from where 6 you live? I know that there is that little time 7 period in there? 8 JOHN RAMSEY: Well we went from the Whites 9 to the Walkers to drop off a gift. 10 LOU SMIT: Were they labeled in this diagram? 11 JOHN RAMSEY: Yeah. (INAUDIBLE). 12 LOU SMIT: (INAUDIBLE) would the drive have 13 been from the Whites there? 14 JOHN RAMSEY: Oh, six minutes, five minutes. 15 It's not really far. 16 LOU SMIT: Okay. 17 JOHN RAMSEY: Probably even less. I think 18 the kids and I stayed in the car and Patsy went 19 out to the door. It didn't take very long. Ten 20 minutes maybe. 21 LOU SMIT: Now this may not seem important 22 or anything, the dynamics of things back at that 23 time. You leave the Whites, the children are going 24 to get in the car. Is JonBenet walking with 25 anybody? I mean, describe like how they get in and 0106 1 where they go or whatever? 2 JOHN RAMSEY: Well I don't remember 3 specifically getting in. But I know she was, I 4 mean, it's always a challenge to get them rounded 5 up and with all her toys and get them detached 6 from what they're doing and haul them away. 7 Getting thing out to the car and off we went. 8 LOU SMIT: Any particular seat arrangement? 9 JOHN RAMSEY: Well JonBenet sat behind me, 10 as the driver. Burke sat to her on the other side 11 of the backseat. Patsy was in the passenger seat 12 in the front. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13 LOU SMIT: Okay. So you drive to the Walkers, 14 that's the first one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7 LOU SMIT: So where did you pull into then 8 at the Walkers? 9 JOHN RAMSEY: I think I pulled into the 10 driveway. And it seems like that when Patsy, as I 11 recall, she went in and she stayed a little while 12 like five minutes. 13 LOU SMIT: And she went in to do something? 14 JOHN RAMSEY: Just to give the Walkers their 15 gifts. 16 LOU SMIT: Do you know what that gift was? 17 JOHN RAMSEY: I didn't at the time. I think 18 it was perfume or something like that. I remember 19 her saying, but I didn't at the time. I thought it 20 was a food (INAUDIBLE) or something like that. And 21 she came back out and we went to the Stines and 22 she had a gift for them. 23 LOU SMIT: Now did you and Burke and JonBenet 24 stay in the car, do you remember? 25 JOHN RAMSEY: I don't remember. 0109 1 LOU SMIT: You stayed in the car at the Walkers? 2 JOHN RAMSEY: Oh, the Walkers, yeah. I think we 3 all three stayed in the car. 4 LOU SMIT: And then you go to the Stines? 5 JOHN RAMSEY: Right. 6 LOU SMIT: How far a drive is the Stines? 7 JOHN RAMSEY: Two minutes, three minutes. 8 Pulled up out the front of their house. Patsy 9 certainly went in, I don't think I did. I don't 10 remember if Burke did or not. I don't think 11 JonBenet did. But I don't remember for sure. 12 It wouldn't have been unusual for Burke to go in 13 because that was his buddy, Doug. 14 LOU SMIT: Did you have a gift for Doug? 15 JOHN RAMSEY: I don't know. I know Patsy 16 probably, but I don't recall. And then we debated, 17 we had a gift for the Fernies and we debated 18 whether we should go over there. But that's 19 probably 15 minutes away and we wanted to get home 20 and to bed. And we didn't know what time we would 21 get back. So we left the Stines and drove home. 22 LOU SMIT: So your concern then was mainly you 23 didn't want to spend that extra time (INAUDIBLE). 24 Why? 25 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, it was 15 minutes over 0110 1 there and both the kids might want to go in and it 2 would have been half an hour, 45 minutes before we 3 went home. And we had to get up early next 4 morning. They were tired. They had been up all 5 day. So we said, well, we'd do that when we got 6 back. 7 LOU SMIT: So when you leave the Steins, 8 Patsy returns or whatever and that's just a short 9 distance to your house, I imagine. What? Just a 10 couple of minutes? And was Burke asleep at this 11 time (INAUDIBLE)? 12 JOHN RAMSEY: JonBenet, when we pulled into 13 the drive, she was sound asleep because I remember 14 getting her out of the car and she was just out. Okay ... this whole trip took about 20 to 25 minutes at the most,from the time they left the White's house until they got home,according to John.JonBenet was not sleeping when they left the White's.When asked by Lou if JonBenet went with Patsy to the Stine's,John says "I don't think JonBenet did." The Stine's house is only minutes from the Ramsey house ... wouldn't John's answer most likely be "JonBenet didn't go to the Stine's,she was fast asleep." Did JonBenet "zonk out" in 5 minutes riding from the Stine's to the Ramsey house?