***Jury Recommends DEATH for Mark Sievers*** Penalty/Sentencing Phase

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  1. Oregonmama

    Oregonmama Well-Known Member

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    MS's supporters (step mom) have shelled out a lot of money already to retain MM. IMO, they cant afford to pay MM anymore.
     


  2. Bobbywoo

    Bobbywoo Well-Known Member

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    I can't even imagine how much this all cost. Anyone have any guesses? For some reason I envisioned in my mind they were not billing all of their hours. Not that anything I've read or heard encourages me to believe so, just that HOW CAN SOMEONE AFFORD IT? It's not comparable to buying a new car, or a new house for that matter. Billing 4 years worth of work on a death penalty case has got to be astronomical, imo. And I pictured MM being so emotionally invested that he would handle the appeals pro-bono
     
  3. JolietJake

    JolietJake Well-Known Member

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    IMHO it really didn't look like he had his heart into it during the post trial hearings. Judge Kyle didn't waver from anything. Maybe he simply feels it's lost cause and he could better use his time and efforts for better paying jobs. I would.
     
  4. kaen

    kaen Trying to be a good human.

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    I am not surprised by his withdrawal from the case. MS has no money to pay (although MM would receive some fee for service, it would not be his normal hourly). MS needs a new lawyer to argue ineffective counsel which is a joke because MM had little to work with but MS will try. I would think that MS would want a DP certified lawyer to make his appeals anyway to make sure all arguments are well done and are competently linked to the DP.

    MS should be ashamed that his family had to pay for his counsel when he was so clearly guilty on all accounts. Of course, this is MOO.
     
  5. IQuestion

    IQuestion Well-Known Member

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    Hiya BOBBYWOO! Great question.
    #1?) "The rules of professional conduct may discuss permissible reasons for a lawyer to withdraw as counsel. One common reason is because the client has not paid the bill. ... The rules may require the lawyer to provide reasonable warnings and opportunities to pay the bill before the lawyer can withdraw from the case." (per Google)
    #2?) An irreconcilable difference on defense strategy
    #3?) "You can't fire me. I quit!" scenario???
    #4?) Nothing will change the outcome and time to move on to other cases?
    Just thinking out loud here, but I'd imagine MM has other cases and clients. It would be unimaginable for an attorney to work one case for the rest of his career, IMO. The "technology evidence" in the case was irrefutable. At some point, even MM had to realize the evidence was overwhelming. I noticed (and so did everyone else) no explanation was ever given for the purchase and use of burner phones, other than the furtherance of a crime.
    BTW, if anyone else can think of a "major issue" the defense failed to address, I'd love to read it. Thank you, IQ.
     
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  6. Arachne 1

    Arachne 1 Well-Known Member

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    Why was Mark seen throwing computers away at Teresa's practice, immediately after her funeral service?
     
  7. simlyme

    simlyme member since 04/2009

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    Because he had a lot to hide ?o_O
     
  8. Arachne 1

    Arachne 1 Well-Known Member

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    AC's Grandma Well-Known Member

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    I thought MM was being paid for by the state as his defense because he didn't have the money to pay for a private attorney and he requested MM? MOO
    Also, in my opinion MM was a bit upset that MS was thanking him and wanting to shake his hand before the actual decision was rendered by the jury. I'm almost positive that's something I saw while watching the trial.
     
  10. Legally Bland

    Legally Bland Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, he was declared indigent around July 2016 and the state has been paying for Mummert since then (at state rates).

    The second part I can't remember specifically, I recall MM being emotional at some point. I'd have a look through the videos but I'm quite enjoying not having Mark's image in my head. Maybe in a few months I'll revisit it.

    I'm sure someone else can confirm.
     
  11. Niner

    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    @Oregonmama posted this on the sidebar, so I thought I'd post it on his own thread....

    Supreme court ordered that all transcripts and trial proceedings be unsealed to submit to them for Mark's appeal. April 8th is a status conf hearing re this matter.
     
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    Niner Long time Websleuther

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  13. BeachSky

    BeachSky Well-Known Member

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  14. MsArk

    MsArk Well-Known Member

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    Watching!

    ETA: Mark is a terrible actor!!!
     
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  15. BeachSky

    BeachSky Well-Known Member

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    Omg these interrogation interviews are waaaayyy worse than that stupid act he put on at the defense table!

    MOO
     
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  16. MsArk

    MsArk Well-Known Member

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    We are getting ready to see a part of Wayne’s confession tape, I think!
     
  17. Arachne 1

    Arachne 1 Well-Known Member

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    The real badasses are the angels that swoop down on demons and catch their prey. Did everybody spot the wings on the black leather jacket (vest) on "The Road Trip"? I did. Thank You to the detectives that worked on this case. And we will be forever grateful to Rose--the sweet fragrance of Justice. Thank You, Rose. xoxoxo!
     
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    msboo Well-Known Member

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    I'm a bit confused now & can't remember... knew Mark was declared indigent but remember reading his step mom was paying for some aspect of his defense (?). I did think his defense was working for state pay, not their usual costs. Anyway, just my thoughts/opinion but Mark's family choosing to PAY for any aspect of his defense was a CHOICE they made. Don't tell me they never saw the 'cracks in the foundation' of Mr Father, Supportive Husband and Son of the Year as such is always discernable even in subtle ways. People see things in their own but denial steps in & the hamster wheel never stops turning. Sorry but I have NO SYMPATHY here for Mark or step-mom concerning financial support as he used them as usual (EX: his own mom w/alarm)... although his family indeed has suffered loss. The real loss here is the Siever girls... this 'show' went on thru their childhood then took a different turn when Big Daddy was arrested, tried, convicted and rightly sentenced to DEATH. So sad as they will someday REALLY see the whole picture... as they will understand what all took place. How they each will perceive that then come to terms with all remains. Prayers for these girls as they continue life as it is now... bless them as they go, give them 'peace that passes all understanding', discernment in their lives and the strength to continue forward.
     
  19. BeachSky

    BeachSky Well-Known Member

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    State starts at 7:23 mark ....
    I thought this was just so stunning, the way she nailed it.
    The reaction of those 3 men behind her was of complete defeat IMO.
     
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  20. Marysmith

    Marysmith Well-Known Member

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    Mark Sievers is so vile. So glad they were caught and all paying the price. That is all.
     
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