KC Could Get A College Degree In Prison For Free - Thoughts Please

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  1. Jersey*Girl

    Jersey*Girl New Member

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    I just posted this same statement on the rants thread, when I realized that it might make for a good thread on it's own. I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on this - as I believe it would be a slap in our faces (soceity) and an even further disrespect to the memory of Caylee.

    :furious::furious::furious:Ok, my rotd is that I went to FSU for 2 years and paid alot of $$$ to be able to do that! Does everybody realize that, if KC is found guilty and sentenced to stay in prison for however long, she can receive a college degree while in prison? While I can appreciate the fact that this helps our soceity when prisoners are released, I think it's unfair that the costs of this program weighs on us taxpayers! Just think about it...KC lies about going to Valencia, and ends up going to jail, only for us tax payers to end up paying for her to get a degree with a very well established university! Heck, she could become a lawyer in jail, win an appeal based on some mitigating indiscretions from her original lawyer (which btw I do believe will happen - the appeal that is), and all the while "we" the taxpayers will have to foot the bill! Just a rant but worthwhile looking into. There's tons of universities that do this, but it's not entirely nationwide yet. If KC isn't found guilty of murder, and only gets a 20-30 year sentence, she could get her masters, heck, doctorate for all we know, and pass everything with flying colors. She'd have tons of free time in jail to be able to study. Wouldn't it be crazy if she ended up being a criminal defense lawyer and became wealthy once released? Oooooooh - burns me up! :furious::furious::furious:
    Here's the link for FSU's program:

    http://www.fsu.com/pages/2008/12/09/education_in_prison.html

    Here's the actual page from fsu.com:
    TOM BLOMBERG

    Education in prison reduces crime: Florida State to lead national push


    BY LIBBY FAIRHURST

    The Florida State University College of Criminology and Criminal Justice will help to lead the newly formed "Alliance for the Advancement of Education in Juvenile Justice and Adult Corrections," a national coalition of correctional and educational professionals promoting proven education programs for incarcerated juvenile and adult offenders.

    "Despite the current recession and the threat of cuts or worse to many public programs, our nation literally cannot afford to see the Alliance mission fail," said Florida State Professor Tom Blomberg, dean of the college.

    "Today, it is estimated that crime costs U.S. taxpayers more than a trillion dollars a year, and our use of incarceration to combat crime has never been higher, with more than one in every 100 Americans behind bars, yet recidivism (repeat offending) now occurs at the alarming rate of 70 percent or more," he said. "Clearly, we need consistent, common-sense correctional policies driven and informed by scholarly research and empirical data, and among those practices proven to work, education during incarceration is one of the best."

    Blomberg called education achievement the cornerstone of success not only for the general population but among the correctional population as well.

    "Research data show that correctional education and associated academic achievement provide a positive turning point for incarcerated offenders in their post-release lives," he said. "They are more likely to gain employment and, therefore, less likely to re-offend. As a result, we save both tangible taxpayer dollars and the numerous intangible pain and suffering costs associated with criminal victimization."

    As leaders of the Alliance, criminologists at Florida State will guide and coordinate the group's efforts in cooperation with the Correctional Education Association www.ceanational.org and other national and state organizations. Together the participants will provide leadership and research and develop legislative advocacy. In addition, Florida State researchers will collect data from all 50 states to establish a National Data Clearinghouse for juvenile justice and adult correctional education.

    The hoped-for result: sound public policy that truly takes a bite out of crime by reducing recidivism and the nation's expensive and ineffective reliance upon incarceration.

    For more information on Florida State University's distinguished College of Criminology and Criminal Justice, visit the Web site at www.criminology.fsu.edu. To learn more about the Center for Criminology and Public Policy Research, a branch of the college, go to www.criminologycenter.fsu.edu.
     
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  3. CentralFLMama

    CentralFLMama New Member

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    That's not new for Casey. A lot of prisoners get a degree. Personally I dont really care.

    Besides, she isn't that smart. She'd flake out and not finish it.
     
  4. zoey

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    heck I get jealous that they get that plus medical insurance.......I have kids about to embark on college and have no idea how it will be funded...it is a crime that crime does have benefits....:rolleyes::waitasec::furious::furious:
     
  5. sumbunny

    sumbunny New Member

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    Can a prisoner facing LWOP get an education? It seems pointless.

    The article states that it lowers the rate of prisoners returning to prison.

    Casey won't have that issue with LWOP. I don't believe they'd offer her the opportunity
    to educate herself, considering she wont' be leaving :)
     
  6. Jersey*Girl

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    Yeah, I know it's not anything new per se. What I'm angry about is the fact that she could turn around and throw what she's done in soceity's faces...kind of like a "right back atcha" kind of thing if you know what I mean.
     
  7. FORDANIEL

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    MANY prisoners get a degree in prison,most become"lawyers",do I agree with this NO!-I think that they should have to work their fingers to the bone and have to donate all of their "earnings" to an at risk child,for their college degree,before that child becomes a prisoner themselves.I think that many of our prisoners have it better than many people in the general population."Rehab for anyone sentenced to "life" is just a mis-use of our tax dollars!!!
     
  8. Jersey*Girl

    Jersey*Girl New Member

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    You're right, but the important thing is if she gets lwop.
     
  9. Jersey*Girl

    Jersey*Girl New Member

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    :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
     
  10. Baznme

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    When she graduates from High School, I'll worry about then.
     
  11. SeriouslySearching

    SeriouslySearching Active Member

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    Great! Then maybe she will come to realize that she should have gone that route to begin with instead of the one she chose.
     
  12. Jersey*Girl

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    Yeah, I agree with you that she could realize the path she should have taken - heck, I hope she does, and gets therapy in the meantime...however, it would be a slap in our faces if she doesn't get a life term w/o parole, gets out 7 years early based on good behavior, and becomes a criminal defense attorney fighting for mothers that kill their children.
     
  13. jaycee

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    She won't be needing it.
     
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    Anything that gets her out of her cell and into the general population is fine with me.
     
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    One other thing-Education for prisoners--A waste ,a huge waste!
     
  16. itsyourworld

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    i think overall, a person with an education is more likely to understand the severity of the impact crime has on society. i don't agree that schooling will help the recidivism rate since there are prisons abounding with very smart 'white collar' criminals with college degrees. these club feds are nothing more than a hierarchical status symbol that says 'we're better than you' in terms of prisoners. fwiw, i am all in favor of prisoners taking courses that interest them. those in the clink for life, well, all i can say to that is they will never profit from their knowledge. if the statistics indicate that prisoners who are in prison long enough to attain a college education and are then released can stay out of trouble, i can't complain. let's hope they don't get a job on wall street.
     
  17. Jersey*Girl

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    easily fixed with a ged, if she doesn't already have one that is...
     
  18. Vegas Bride

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    lol I totally agree! Somehow I just don't see her ever applying herself towards anything other than batting her eyes and grinning at someone she'll think she can use.

    Oh she may say she's taking classes and graduating with a 4.0, how ever we all know how she likes to spin things.

    VB
     
  19. MADJGNLAW

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    I agree! I have 4 children and one just turned 3 yrs old. My boys are 21 and 22. My 21 year old was lucky to get in to the fire department and his training is only $5,000 out of my pocket, he pays the rest. My 22 year old received a grant to go to school for HVAC but his dream of being a car mechanic is shattered due to the fact that I owe so much on my daughters eduction and he refuses to let me help him pay for his schooling so he settled for the free HVAC training and that breaks my hearts that he can not follow his dream and refuses my help. My 3 yr old, well we set aside $100 a month for her schooling in the future and that is a big dent in our pockets, we go with out any extras to save up. My 25 yr old is helping me pay her school loan of $65,000. Is it fair that the good children in America, that want to better themselves have to pay such a high price to get a good education when a criminal can commit an act and come out of prison with a free education that we as tax payers pay for? I think it should be the other way around, they should have hard labor jobs for them in prison and with that they can pay for their own education and pay back the tax payers for their room and board.
     
  20. Sdavidson11

    Sdavidson11 You are not alone in this journey

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    Here are a few fact that I know for sure. The man that attacked me first received his culinary art certificate while serving 30 years that allowed him to be placed out of prison and into a work release where he was considered a chef. He then escaped from the work release and committed a crime against me and my husband. He is now serving LWOP in a FL prison. About 5 years into his sentence he applied for a scholarship to become a dental tech. He passed the program and now has a certificate and works in the prison making crowns and dentures for FL prison inmates. The problem that I have with that is I just paid over $3,000 for a crowns on my teeth. My thought would be I wouldn't mind this so much if our tax dollars helped victims of violent crimes rather than the people that commit them. A survivor can lose a lot of money from working Etc. by being put in a position of post traumatic stress, anxiety, and a variety of different conditions that change their lives forever. Meanwhile, most crime victims do not profit. I could not return to school after being victimized due to my claustrophobia and going to a class room when it is sometimes a problem to leave the house is unrealistic. I just wish there was a program that prisoners could help the taxpayers other than cleaning up roads or whatever. Sorry for babbling but yes KC can get a degree in prison but it would probably have to be scholar shipped. Yet my 18 year old leaving for college this year,I have to pay for even though she has a 4.2 GPA. There is just so much wrong with our system. At least I can say that because of the crime committed against me change the FL statue in the senate that kidnappers are no longer allowed to be place in a work release program and hopefully that make FL a little safer place to live.
     
  21. Jersey*Girl

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    & to make matters worse (not that I want to remind you or your husband of anything), but I'll bet you guys didn't receive free or even inexpensive therapy from our govt to deal with the crime...huh? I'm so sorry that you went through something terrible.:blowkiss:
     
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