I thought I'd start a new thread to pull some discussion into one place that is taking place on a couple of other threads. The discussion centers around the question of whether or not KC spent the night at Tony's June 17 - June 20. Pulling over an initial post I made on the topic to open things up: A few things about KC "living" with Tony have bothered me, and this was amplified by the "undiscovered" Sept. 8 interview. Here are some excerpts: Speaking with Det. Edwards about June 16:EE: What did she bring to your apartment that night clothing-wise? TL: Just probably something to sleep in. EE: So she didnt like show up with a ruck sack and a, that big bag that her brother ended up coming? That wasnt the night she brought that? TL: No. I dont think she brought, she didnt have that until I think from, Im pretty sure until the 27th. Thats when she had stuff. EE: Okay. So she TL: Thats what made me think that when that was the time I guess when she started staying EE: When she set up camp? TL: Just yeah (affirmative), well thats . The "ruck sack" does not show up for another 11 days (or so). In the undercover video with Lee, Tony mentions that KC more or less moved in on the 27th, which happened to be the day he went to NY. This is immediately followed by:EE: So before that she was just driving back and forth to Mom and Dads getting fresh clothes? TL: I wouldnt, uh, there would be times where I, Im, thats why I was saying that it was like, its kind of hard to remember if she, she might have been there the nights that I was, I was home. But staying there during the day I dont know. I know for a fact that when I came back, and right before I, I left she was there during the days at my house. Like after that then she was like staying there. I dont think she ever left my place. I found this rather surprising, as that first week (June 16 - June 20) KC's cell phone pings from Tony's apartment and then from the Anthony's on the 17th, 18th, and 20th, yet during that time Tony's phone pings from his apartment. His school schedule is such that he is home the 18th and 20th, and he voluntarily took the 17th off (he says he did not go anywhere that day). How could Tony forget those days as being ones where KC leaves? :waitasec: Reading the interview further, it is implied she was not there the eveing of the 17th, and Tony was not sure she was there the evening of the 18th. He said he needed to check his cell records to be sure.EE: Wednesday is, did she come back that night and stay over? Because TL: Uh EE: she stayed somewhere from that point on. TL: I cant remember if she was there that night or not. Id have to look, uh, its, its better if I go in my phone records. Because if Im talking to her at night then I know shes not at my place. If Im not talking to her then shes probably, she could very well could be to my place. Huh??? If she suddenly started staying over from the 16th on, one would think he'd remember that, right? :waitasec: Well, he does remember her staying over the night of the 20th:EE: Alright, let me run, let me run back then to the, I just want to make sure that wasnt the 20th. TL: Okay. EE: Anything stand out in your mind? She stay overnight that night of the hot body? TL: Oh, yeah (affirmative). EE: So TL: Stayed over that night. EE: You say oh, yeah (affirmative). How do, how do we know that? TL: Because I remember her being, the reason why she even did the hot body was because she got a little drunk that night, and she also ran my bar, oh, she ran, because I al I usually go in there, Ill usually go there early, like seven, eight oclock, order some food, make sure everybody gets there on time, like I was working, and have my tab opened, you know? Never actually run, you know never ever actually have a tab. I made the mistake of saying you could buy a couple drinks on my tab. Well, because, because (inaudible) I get my money for that night and I got to use it to close the tab. So, she spent like sixty dollars on my tab that night. Thats how I, I can remember stuff like that. YM: (Laughs.) TL: Uh, because I remember scold I was getting, I got pissed about that one. EE: Is that the night shes in the blue dress dancing with a girl in shorts there? TL: Yup (affirmative). YM: Thats 20th, right? Thats EE: Yeah (affirmative). YM: Yeah (affirmative), thats 20th. IMHO, Tony is sorta, kinda saying that her staying over the nights of the 17th - 19th is in question. Let's look at the cell records. Here is late June 17 / early June 18:6/17/08 TUE 11:24:43 PM OUTGOING TEXT Casey Anthony Anthony Lazzaro 6/17/08 TUE 11:26:39 PM INCOMING TEXT Anthony Lazzaro Casey Anthony 6/17/08 TUE 11:27:33 PM OUTGOING TEXT Casey Anthony Anthony Lazzaro 6/17/08 TUE 11:28:19 PM INCOMING TEXT Anthony Lazzaro Casey Anthony 6/18/08 WED 12:10:17 AM OUTGOING CALL Casey Anthony Papa J's Pizza 6/18/08 WED 12:11:22 AM OUTGOING CALL Casey Anthony Papa J's Pizza 6/18/08 WED 12:17:48 AM OUTGOING CALL Casey Anthony Unidentified # 4074339999 6/18/08 WED 12:19:24 AM OUTGOING CALL Casey Anthony Unidentified # 4074339999 6/18/08 WED 12:22:07 AM OUTGOING TEXT Casey Anthony Anthony Lazzaro 6/18/08 WED 12:31:31 AM INCOMING TEXT Anthony Lazzaro Casey Anthony Here is morning of June 19 (remember, Tony did not have school until 9:00 that day):6/19/08 THU 8:32:28 AM OUTGOING TEXT Casey Anthony Anthony Lazzaro 6/19/08 THU 11:03:47 AM INCOMING TEXT Anthony Lazzaro Casey Anthony And finally, here is the early AM of the 20th: 6/20/08 FRI 12:22:32 AM OUTGOING TEXT Casey Anthony Anthony Lazzaro Why is KC texting Tony if they are supposedly in the same room? :waitasec: IMHO, if you put Tony's recollections together with the cell phone record, KC was sleeping in her car most nights between June 17 and June 27. More specifically, one can almost imagine her going to bed w/ Tony on the 16th with Caylee asleep in the trunk...finding her dead on the 17th...spending the evening of the 17th / 18th / 19th in the car with her dead child ... then on the 20th going out to party after deciding to discard the body. This could further explain why she got so little sleep during that time period.