http://websleuths.com/forums/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=463 Thought maybe this thread would be easier for us to view for the things we know for sure is a lie, or a truth, or a fact or just plain wrong, in order to put some of the contradictions to rest and help us sleuthers to not bang our head against the wall. :banghead: Ok, regarding the lights being reported as off by the neighbor, then watching this video (link above) at the 7:24 mark, JI mentions...pumpkin light was on????? Are you kidding me? Really? So the phone napper/kid napper also took the time to plug in the pumpkin light in the computer room? My best guess on this is "neighbor is plain wrong, or lying" DB never turned the lights off. For what reason, I don't know. Actually drunk, or staging the scene. So for this post, I guess I would label it as "plain wrong, or too drunk to know." I'm not sure if I'm allowed to even start a thread so feel free to delete it...mods!! :innocent: Not a problem..:crazy: ETA: If stating a fact: Don't forget to link it..