Kelly Clarkson's £150,000 gold & turquoise Jane Austen ring stays put in UK for now

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  1. wfgodot

    wfgodot Former Member

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  3. Donamena

    Donamena Former Member

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    Does this mean she can have her money back?
     
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    wfgodot Former Member

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    If someone ponies up the cash, she'll take the proceedings and get the ££ back; and if they don't, presumably it can be exported.
     
  5. josie1986

    josie1986 Verified Juanette

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    i read about this earlier,i don't get it.

    she bought it with her own money,she can do what she pleases with it and take it wherever she wants imo.

    if british people wanted it kept here surely one of us would have purchased it.
     
  6. wfgodot

    wfgodot Former Member

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    I'm assuming the auction was known to Austen experts and aficianados there; I'm assuming they had either no interest or no money.

    Don't blame them a bit for stepping in and keeping it in-country for now though; though if one googles "Elgin marbles" (etc.) one can find evidence of cultural plundering by the country here in question.
     
  7. Donamena

    Donamena Former Member

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    And the seller didn't think there might be a problem selling it to an out-of-country buyer?
     
  8. STANDREID

    STANDREID A slacker when slacker wasn't cool

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    I don't see why it was put up for sale if they didn't want it gone but maybe they didn't know in time. That said, you don't always have the right to do whatever you want with something just because you pay for it. Some things also belong to mankind so even after you've taken possession of it the item isn't only yours.
     
  9. wasalurker

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    It says it was passed down through the family before they put it up for sale. If it was at an auction and KC knew about it, then it was probably listed as hers and advertised. The gov't should have purchased it at auction if they wanted to keep it there and make sure it stayed in the country. Only after someone from another country purchased it did they make a stink...

    If it was the family's then they should be able to do what they want with it. If the gov't wants it then they should pay for it.

    JMOO
     
  10. UKgirl

    UKgirl For you little sky.

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    The words does it realy matter apply here. THe family didnt want it so let her have it, thats what i say
     
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    wfgodot Former Member

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    Jane Austen's ring matters far less than the objects in her fiction. (Guardian)
     
  12. LadyL

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    well, it appears it isn't worth anywhere near what she paid for it so I think perhaps her rep. pushed the price up at auction beyond anyone else's ability to afford it or beyond what anyone else was authorized to spend

    however, it's her ring

    license to export? couldn't someone just put it on their finger and fly home?
     
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    LadyL Well-Known Member

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    Miss Clarkson encountered a similar problem when she bought a first edition of Jane Austen’s novel Persuasion, saying last year: ‘We put in an export request but I can’t take it out of the UK as they’ve named it a national treasure.’

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...aking-Jane-Austins-ring-UK.html#ixzz2bgl5UkEp
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    seriously, if they want to declare everything 'national treasures', then perhaps they should already have these items in a museum
     
  14. ArianeEmory

    ArianeEmory I know the pieces fit

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    Yes, this seems like a particularly weird and arbitrary bait-and-switch. I get that saying "private property is private property" is a bit naive, but I wasn't aware they could go this far. And it's just a ring. I can see the historic preservation of sites and buildings, and I'm slightly more understanding regarding the manuscript, but a ring isn't going to teach anyone about Jane Austen, and it wasn't part of the Crown Jewels or anything.
     
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    wfgodot Former Member

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    Anonymous donor gives $150,000 to stop U.S. singer Kelly Clarkson buying Jane Austen ring and keep in the UK. (Daily Mail)

    • Jane Austen House museum had hoped to buy the ring last year
    • Outbid by Kelly Clarkson who bought it for five times the estimated price
    • Government placed a temporary export ban on the gold and turquoise ring
    • Clarkson will sell the ring for £152,450 should a buyer come forward
    • Anonymous bidder gives museum £100,000 so it may try to purchase it
     
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    England Prepared to Nuke Kelly Clarkson For Buying Jane Austen's Ring. (Gawker)
    much more at the link
     
  17. ArianeEmory

    ArianeEmory I know the pieces fit

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    "Austen House curator Louise West told the AP that the museum has invited Kelly Clarkson to come visit the next time she's in Britain, which is exactly the same thing as the Louvre inviting her to come visit the next time she's in France, because it is a museum, hence, already open to the public."

    Heh.
     
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    Jane Austen ring to stay in Britain after museum beats Kelly Clarkson's £150,000 bid. (Evening Standard)
    the story and pics, at the link
     
  19. Woe.be.gone

    Woe.be.gone Well-Known Member

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    It seems like a trick of some sort from the beginning to try get more money for the ring. A portion may have been intended to fund the museum - something like that. Now someone has offered one-third of the price KC paid for the ring so the museum still has to come up with the rest. That portion is still beyond what they estimated the ring would sell for at auction. How can the British government keep the seller from collecting top dollar in a free market? That's what I'm trying to figure out here. Because the family could have offered it to the museum at a fair price in the first place if they cared about preserving the treasure aspect of their famous distant relative. Were they already paid, to include Sotherby's cut, and now the government refuses to turn the ring over to KC? (meaning KC's money is tied up in this mess)

    I'm not sure if my post makes sense but, to me, it seems like a publicity stunt using KC as a tool. Obviously she admires JA as she tried to purchase a different relic earlier.
     
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    Woe.be.gone Well-Known Member

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    Then let them settle for a lesser price and give the money back to KC.

    Kelly, keep your money in the United States, please? lol!
     

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