Still Missing Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #66

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  1. Megnut

    Megnut Well-Known Member

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    Motive... I fear that the day KB didn't have an abortion is the day that sealed her fate.

    I find it illuminating that she was kicked out for being pregnant (I suspect it wasn't for BEING pregnant, but rather for STAYING pregnant), as if she got pregnant all by herself. You'd think a family who has cattle and dogs might know more about how pregnancies happen.

    I also find it telling that she was called a hooker. That tells me little about KB but A LOT about the hinky situation KB walked into. Somebody must have brought home LOTS of women of questionable repute. MOO

    Moreover when those sorts of women go missing, many go unreported. And unmissed.

    They might want to drain Pikes Peak of its trees and see what secrets they find.

    He gets off on violence. "It gets his blood moving."

    He scares me. Even behind bars.

    MOO
     


  2. susiQ

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    The explanation is "simple", some people just cannot "add." They failed addition and are incapable of adding up the evidence that was so meticulously revealed during this trial. It defies common sense so it must boil down to simple addition. And I mean there's a LOT of "SIMPLE" going on here.
     
  3. MsBetsy

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    Now we know what she meant when she told her friend she had never seen that kind of evil when she referred to PF.
    It was probably the first time she realized how soulless and inhumane he really was.

    Imo
     
  4. Flicka1

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    Thank you for the reminder on what a criminal defense attorney’s role is. It’s a good reminder that they are not awful or incompetent—they are doing their job.
     
  5. Leader6518

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    And let’s not forget PF knew exactly what he had said to those witnesses!
     
  6. enelram

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    It also tells me about SF's thinking.
    I recall discussing this phenomena w/ a counselor- women who hate other women but
    they, themselves oversexualize other women...
    Often there was some sexual abuse in the critical woman's past.
     
  7. Hair of the Dog

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    I didn't know that but it makes perfect sense and adds a new dimension to life at the franch.

    I am always intrigued by the environment in which one dwells and what it reveals about them.

    SF is as delusional and as bat ____ crazy as her son, thinking she was going to get custody of Baby K.

    MOO, MOO, MOO
     
  8. makayla

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    This morning I’m still chuckling over PF’s plan to eliminate witnesses. Did he really believe that if everyone associated with this case who could testify suddenly disappeared .... all of them ... that the prosecutor would say “oh, never mind, I see we don’t have any witnesses so we’ll cancel our plans and let him go”? :D

    The level of PF’s delusion is truly incredible :rolleyes:
     
  9. susiQ

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    RSABBM
    I'll second that!!
     
  10. MsBetsy

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    I think she also has some traits similar to Borderline Personality Disorder.
    Her father described her as eager to please.
    She would have been especially so with someone she idealized or with a lover.

    Imo
     
  11. AgeofAquaruis

    AgeofAquaruis Well-Known Member

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    I'ts not me that thinks 1st degree is a stretch. I said I don't see how it's stretch. That takes some PF mental Gymnastics imho.
    He planned this well ahead of time, had three attempts to get er done, but his partner wouldn't do it.Plus there's the robbery charge. 15 blows with the bat. He also had Baby K there while he did it.
     
  12. Megnut

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    He didn't say it, but he must think it: if there aren't any witnesses, it didn't happen.

    Oh, but it did happen. 10 to 15 times. And then with 6 gallons.

    The real problem with PF is that HE is too big to flush.

    MOO
     
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    Sam drives by the Woodland Park infamous Sonic on the drive to court, wonder if he’s been tempted to drive thru?
     
  14. Daisy47

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    As excited as I am to see how the prosecution wraps this up tomorrow, and who they call to the stand (please be SF), I’m more excited to hear the defense put forth by PF’s public defenders.

    We’ve had some good laughs at PF’s stupidity thus far, but the fanciful tale the defense is going to attempt to sell the jury, should take the cake.

    That “house” has a rock solid foundation so far. Show us otherwise, defense...

    Thursday at 6:04 PMReport
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    Due to time constraints the past couple of weeks, I’ve been limited to Twitter for most info on this. Quickly scanning threads now & came across this from Mass Guy. Whoda’ ever thunk just how much stupider PF would get? He actually thought taking out all these people was even a remote possibility? No words for this stupid, evil, vile, empty ***. (Maybe a few words....)
     
  15. Only4Justice

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    this ^^^ super good point.
     
  16. AgeofAquaruis

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    Like with Kaylee Anthony murder. Still this case is more cut a dry than that. But good that they get that option.
    MOO
     
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    I know, I was confused by that at first and questioned as well. That's actually why I asked why he had referred to Wendy as the cash cow. Like was PF implying Wendy had the money to pay for/fund anything done on PF's behalf? But -- then later PF writes about kidnapping Joe and Wendy and also robbing their house, so I truly don't think Wendy was the one he was referring to in code. AND most telling, SF's home and cell phone number were listed on this first letter even though it didn't identify her by name.

    While I wrote what Sam said in the FB live verbatim (for this letter, not all my notes), he did stress that Slater was on the stand reading through these notes FAST and that Sam was just doing his best to keep up. So what he was reading on the video were notes from his own shorthand, which explains why there might be some gaps, or any phrases missing in-between, and some confusion. We don't have the official court transcript of Slater reading the notes verbatim.
     
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  18. justme11

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    I think I gasped when I first read it, then laughed my butt off! I do not understand him and never will. I don't think there are words to describe his stupidity.
    I don't know about everyone else but if Dan May isn't busy after the verdict is read I'm up for some more Frazee-isms. I'm sure they have more dirt on him.
     
  19. Hair of the Dog

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    It is like he thought his "friend" and his people were just going to round up all the people on the list and hold them hostage until the 22nd. At what point do they say, Enough! We need to take a closer look at this guy's brain? I really want to hear more about him from locals who grew up with him and went through school with him.
     
  20. AgeofAquaruis

    AgeofAquaruis Well-Known Member

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    But we would all get banned for life,and that would be the end of WS.
    ;)
     
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