GUILTY Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #67

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  1. dixiegirl1035

    dixiegirl1035 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, those boots were brought up three times that's why I was thinking the prosecution would be having evidence of the boots coming in with Kelsey's blood on them at a later Point. Never did. I guess the paper chase pre-empted some things LOL
     


  2. Steelslady

    Steelslady Justice for Kelsey

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    I thought that was what he said, too, but I couldn't be 100%.
     
  3. Steelslady

    Steelslady Justice for Kelsey

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    Well, it should be posted somewhere in the media thread, if anyone wants to look that far back. It was stated in an article sometime in December or January, I just can't remember the exact time SF2 said PF got there. I do remember him saying PF got there after Sf2 and his family arrived.
     
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  4. MemPat

    MemPat The EARTH without ART is just EH.

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    Yes, I totally expect a quick verdict!

    Elect a foreman = 5 minutes
    Take an initial vote to see where everybody stands = 5 minutes
    Foreman says, "Oh, gee, we've only been here 10 minutes. We can't just walk out there and say Guilty. Anybody got cards? Texas Holdem okay with everybody? Who wants to deal?"
     
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  5. osu

    osu Well-Known Member

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    Great post and ITA! I just have a question about Michelle S. and PF possibly obtaining her address from his defense teams documents. Unless I missed it, Michelle wasn't listed as a witness and didn’t testify. The others mentioned above were mostly local (except for KK) and many were witnesses
    so I can see how it would’ve been easier for someone to get their info as it could be listed in the documents. As far as Agent Slater himself being LEO, I can’t imagine his address would be readily available off the internet.

    JMO
     
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  7. NuttMegg

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    @riolove77, how could his attys argue for manslaughter if he won't produce the body? I know you said "even IF it happened", but it seems bizarre to even hint it should be less than 1st Deg Murder if he won't produce the body. It would seem he would have to stick with "What?? Who me??" that he had nothing to do with anything...or give up where the body is.
     
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  8. AnnaGrace

    AnnaGrace Well-Known Member

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    I'm anxiously awaiting tomorrow's guilty verdict along with the rest of you!
    I know our time here together, on this case, is coming to an end, unless of course, new charges are added. Like say, conspiracy, etc., involving somebody we've discussed here many times. I've never doubted that PF is guilty and my opinion is he deserves the death penalty. Since that isn't on the table, I hope the rest of his miserable life is as miserable as he is. I hope he suffers terribly, but it won't hold a light to what poor Kelsey suffered at his hands. My heart goes out to the Berreths. Their lives are forever changed and they'll never be totally happy again. I'm so glad they have baby K and baby K has them. She'll help fill that void that will always be lurking in the shadows. I wish them all the best and many blessings.
    I'd like to say a big thank you to everyone who has been here from beginning until end and have supported justice, such as it is. Thank you to the mods who put in so much time and do a great job at keeping us in line. WS is the bomb and is the only place I follow cases. Thank you to all who work hard here providing updates, transcribing, providing legal guidance and so, so many other things. I won't try to call each name, because I'm afraid I may miss somebody, but I know who you are and you know who you are. You're so appreciated and I would be lost without you. This has been one heck of a group that I've really attached to. I hope we'll be together again on others of the many cases here.
    I'm so excited for tomorrow! I believe this jury will do the right thing. Justice for Kelsey, her baby girl, her parents and her brother!
     
  9. AgeofAquaruis

    AgeofAquaruis Well-Known Member

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    "Hey Ma Elk Hunt was a smashing success" "Now where is the mop".
    MOO
     
  10. riolove77

    riolove77 Verified Attorney

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    Thank you! Man, I'd give anything to have seen the look of disgust and the eyeroll. At least ONE person from that wretched family turned out normal.
     
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  11. riolove77

    riolove77 Verified Attorney

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    The body is irrelevant at this point. We know she's dead, and if that tooth is hers, and we know it is, well, she's dead. I don't think anyone is even arguing that at this point. If his attorneys get up tomorrow and try to say she took off and there's not enough forensics to indicate incompatibility with life, I'll laugh. So the death isn't an issue at this point.

    It's clear from the evidence the jury knows this woman is dead and this man is responsible for it. He's buried himself. So at this point, the only thing they CAN do is try to get him a lesser sentence via a lesser level of homicide.
     
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  12. Steelslady

    Steelslady Justice for Kelsey

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    I second this. @PommyMommy , @Seattle1 , @Yellow Rose , @oviedo @Tippy Lynn @scdiv @gitana1 @riolove77, thanks a million for all of your hard work throughout this case and the trial, every day, every thread.

    It truly has been a pleasure posting with you all- way too many to list, but you're all amazing. I also appreciate that we can agree to disagree and still respect one another for it.

    Much thanks to the Mods and Admins for keeping all these threads going this past year. I came in late in the first thread, being heavily involved in Jayme C's thread- glad that had a good ending as far as her escaping.

    It has been a long year for the Berreth family. Thanksgiving will never be the same again for them, knowing what happened to their daughter/sister/granddaughter/niece, not too long after she spoke to her Mom on the phone. I am grateful that she at least had that last conversation with her.

    Lots of love to Baby K. My heart aches for her so much.
     
  13. Simply Southern

    Simply Southern Well-Known Member

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    Short and sweet....bet everyone's home in time for a late lunch.
     
  14. Aydrianna523

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    I guess I was wrong (for the first time evah) about pf telling sf on the phone Thanksgiving afternoon that he killed kb. Sf2 would have picked up on something like that.
     
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  15. MemPat

    MemPat The EARTH without ART is just EH.

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    This makes me sick to think about but just when I believe I've imagined Patrick Frazee at his worst, the instructions he gave John Doe come to mind.

    You heard the disgusting things written on the napkin that Patrick wanted done to KK.

    There is probably more than a chance he did that to Kelsey.

    That prison can't hold the torment that should come his way!
     
  16. Aydrianna523

    Aydrianna523 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I thought earlier it was said that sf2 said pf was a little late. Dunno
     
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  17. makayla

    makayla Well-Known Member

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    Very nice post!

    Murdering KB on Thanksgiving Day was yet another cruel move on PF’s part. It would be horrific at any time, but to have it actually be ON Thanksgiving is so much worse. The more I think of everything PF did (and those who didn’t try to prevent it), the more angry and sad I am. There will never be sufficient justice for all who are responsible for this. JMHO ...
     
  18. zea mays

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    Very excited for closing arguments and verdict watch tomorrow. I think, if Judge Sells allows them to deliberate into the evening, we'll have a verdict before 7pm Mountain time. I am SO curious what the defense will come up with. Since they went with the general denial defense, I'm very curious how they'll treat the lesser charges.
     
  19. AnnaGrace

    AnnaGrace Well-Known Member

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    I can only imagine that the brother, SF2, has been mortified throughout all of this. I do believe he's a good man. It wouldn't be easy to believe your own brother could do something so horrible and then to have to testify. And now all this with the paper towel notes stupidity. I do feel for him. I'm so glad he did the right thing.
     
  20. NuttMegg

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    Isn't he a cop? That must make it worse for him. But I had an office friend whose son went bad in his twenties, he stuck by him thru various crimes for years, then the son finally pulled off an armed robbery and my friend said nope, no more, he's on his own. And everyone respected my friend for his decision.
     
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