CATCH THE LATEST WEBSLEUTHS RADIO AS WE LOOK INTO THE TERRIFYING WORLD OF MEDICAL SERIAL KILLERS
CLICK HERE TO LISTEN

Kidnapping Charges

Discussion in 'Heather Elvis' started by Salem, Mar 20, 2014.

  1. Salem

    Salem Former Member

    Messages:
    29,160
    Likes Received:
    9
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Discuss the Kidnapping charges here.

    Salem
     
  2. Jersey*Girl

    Jersey*Girl New Member

    Messages:
    10,266
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    0
  3. Jersey*Girl

    Jersey*Girl New Member

    Messages:
    10,266
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    0
  4. Jersey*Girl

    Jersey*Girl New Member

    Messages:
    10,266
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    0
  5. SharetheLight

    SharetheLight Share the Light, Share the Love

    Messages:
    2,077
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I waiver on whether the kidnapping stems solely from the Ms not allowing HE to flee the landing or if the Ms actually left PTL with HE still alive but under their control.
     
  6. SStarr33

    SStarr33 Inactive

    Messages:
    7,881
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
  7. PeterThomasFan

    PeterThomasFan Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,997
    Likes Received:
    245
    Trophy Points:
    63
    This thread never had any activity. Time to bring it forward.

    MYRTLE BEACH, SC (WMBF) - Both the husband and wife arrested Friday in connection with the Heather Elvis investigation were charged with kidnapping on Sunday, in addition to the charges announced at their bond hearings Saturday morning.

    <snipped by me>

    "There's been a long investigation, you have either a missing person or possibly a homicide, so clearly that's in the public domain, that's what the focus of this has been," McCollum said. "At this stage, I don't know what's happening for sure in the future, but I wouldn't be surprised if she or others were charged with a more serious crime."

    [...]

    http://www.live5news.com/story/24785359/2-in-custody-in-connection-with-heather-elvis-case-police-confirm
     
  8. razzledazzle

    razzledazzle Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,242
    Likes Received:
    907
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes. Definitely time to go back refresh my memory of the kidnapping evidence. I've noticed some of the links take me a to a page that is no longer available.
     
  9. PeterThomasFan

    PeterThomasFan Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,997
    Likes Received:
    245
    Trophy Points:
    63
    I don't have a great feeling that these charges will stick and remain.

    I think it would be easier to prove a murder took place without Heather being found alive.

    If she was just kidnapped, then where is she now? :facepalm:

    http://www.ussc.gov/guidelines-manual/2011/2011-2a41
     
  10. passionflower

    passionflower Just 1 tip to find a killer

    Messages:
    27,427
    Likes Received:
    629
    Trophy Points:
    113
    IIRC, wasn't there a photo or video of a camera at a business that showed the M's with HE in a truck? in the middle of the night?
     
  11. lifeisgood4

    lifeisgood4 New Member

    Messages:
    73
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Now that it is kidnapping instead of murder, do they have to have same flake-of-a judge
    or are they going to request a new judge as the Elvis' requested?? Will it be in sc closer to mb or are we going to follow judge dennis??? Does anyone this???
     
  12. TTF14

    TTF14 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    7,228
    Likes Received:
    1,738
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No. At least not that has been revealed.
     
  13. Madeleine74

    Madeleine74 Of course it's my opinion, who else's would it be?

    Messages:
    10,323
    Likes Received:
    447
    Trophy Points:
    83
    A black or dark colored truck was seen twice on surveillance video along the route to PTL, but no human was able to be seen inside for identification.
     
  14. cujenn81

    cujenn81 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,280
    Likes Received:
    266
    Trophy Points:
    83
  15. jillycat

    jillycat Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,081
    Likes Received:
    1,822
    Trophy Points:
    113
    One of the defense atty's has said that the state can't even prove it was the M's vehicle. Of course it was, and we all know it, but proving even that much in court is a challenge.

    The two things that have always plagued this case, in my view, are the police/state's claim about a kidnapping/murder at PTL that happened in a blink, and their own admission very early into this case that they'd likely never find her body.

    Add these two issues to her unprocessed car, which was released directly from the scene where they claim the crime occurred, the claim that LE had DNA, which turned out to be Heather's from her own car, and LE grasping at IE charges based on SM's remarks, and the M's walk-away was on the horizon.

    I don't believe for a minute that the defense thinks those kidnapping charges can stick, and I said awhile back that I felt this would be a parade of motions with a surprise ending. I would love to think that the surprise is SM squealing on TM, but these two are in it together up to their necks, and I fear that the walk from the kidnapping charge is just a matter of time and some additional lawyering.

    If they walk entirely, I believe it will be due to a combination of a well-planned crime, help with that crime, some luck in the mix, and LE's rush to make a case it didn't yet have.

    If that happens, I have to believe that in the big karmic picture, Heather still will receive justice and her family will have peace. I've recently had a catastrophic loss that should not have been. In part, there was a police failure in addition to another tragic factor. It's my belief that all things do come full circle that keeps me sane, and I hope for Heather's sake and that of her family that I'm right.

    JMO
     
  16. Madeleine74

    Madeleine74 Of course it's my opinion, who else's would it be?

    Messages:
    10,323
    Likes Received:
    447
    Trophy Points:
    83
    The law of Karma cannot be broken even if the laws of man and society are.
     
  17. LBDunes

    LBDunes New Member

    Messages:
    388
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    There seems to be a lot of social media activity by the M's going on lately. Can't the parking lot be brought back or does it still exist?
     
  18. jillycat

    jillycat Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,081
    Likes Received:
    1,822
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I don't know how these public displays aren't a violation of the gag order.
     
  19. U2forever

    U2forever Nothing to stop this being the best day ever

    Messages:
    1,971
    Likes Received:
    96
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Sickening aren't they...

    They are partying like its 1999. Why TM & SM, where is Heather?

    Karma, I'm looking forward to it.
     
  20. lstiff

    lstiff Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,723
    Likes Received:
    135
    Trophy Points:
    63
    I was coming here to say the same thing. I went on FB and found all of these groups and man I spent hours sucked in like the old days on here. I also had to back away slowly b/c it's such a freak show with fake profiles, multiple groups and SO many personal back and forths. My oh my.
     

Share This Page



  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice