We have a bit of a disagreement going on here between a handful of posters and it is making discussion difficult if not impossible. These people know who they are and if you do not know what I am talking about, then that is a good thing. I am telling you all this because I am going to go through a lot of information when I get a chance and then set some parameters. Threads have been removed with dozens of posts deleted and it was just getting ridiculous. So, I will reopen discussion about KioMarie and other issues at some point. I don't want to shut down the conversation but some are making it impossible to discuss. In the meantime my patience has been worn thin with everyone complaining about everyone else, so please if you don't like a topic, stay out of the thread.