Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #21 *Arrest*

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  1. HeidiTX232

    HeidiTX232 Member

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    Actually, in many states, a relative of Lucas would be considered “fictive kin” to the babies (the one already here and the one she is pregnant with). And there could be some long term benefits for the children to be with Lucas’ family. It may be worth considering and looking into if someone is interested.
     


  2. Busylady

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    I don't know how it works, but I would think if it were for forging drs note the date of the charge would be the date the note was forged. The charge that throws me is the stealing of identity causing more than a 100,000 damage to the victim. Time will tell, I hope whatever the charges are that it does shake something loose and helps in finding Lucas.
     
  3. Paddleboarder

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    Hopefully it will become clearer soon.
     
  4. WildcatRunner

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    I keep letting my mind wander to a life insurance (or some sort of insurance) fraud/forgery with that specific amount. But I feel doubtful that is correct too.
     
  5. Busylady

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    Actually that is the first thing that came to mind when the charges first came out, but then a poster informed me that it was impossible to purchase a life insurance policy that large on a minor child, in addition to there being a certain waiting period between when policy was purchased and death occurred in order for the death amount to be paid out.
     
  6. NervousNellie

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    Wild speculation, but forging someone's signature is the identity theft, right? So whomever she took the Rx pad from is the victim, and maybe that person faced a significant fine for not securing the Rx pad? I admit it seems far fetched that a fine would be over 100K, especially given that I worked for a surgeon 20 years ago and while we were not careless with Rx pads, we certainly didn't treat them like they were worth 100K.
     
  7. Who is the victim referenced? Sorry Nellie, we posted almost simultaneously.
     
  8. AlwaysHopeToHelp

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    I’m thinking the new law would only apply to new cases though - the other cases are grandfathered. For instance Jessica Lunsford Act couldn’t be applied to jessica lunsfords case retroactively but from here on out continuous sexual abuse (defined as over a period of more than 30 days ) will apply for a 25yr minimum all the way to 99yrs.
    I know way too much about this particular law as we attempted to get my ex husband on this law but couldn’t prove dates of the abuse against our child. ::angry::


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  9. PhoneJockey

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    Oh, no. I'm so sorry that your family had to experience this. My heart breaks for you and I hope he eventually gets what he deserves, and then some.
     
  10. WildcatRunner

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    Thank you, you worded that explanation better than I did.
     
  11. razzledazzle

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    I think she's been laundering money (by filing false medical insurance claims) through the place she worked - among other things, and got busted when the investigation into Lucas' disappearance began. JMO MOO Then again, would she be smart enough to pull that off?
     
  12. HayLouise

    HayLouise Law Student

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  13. WildcatRunner

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    If I recall correctly a victim wasn't named, and case documents were sealed.
     
  14. deedee21

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    I will be pizzed off if he is not held responsible one way or the other.
    Lucas was his responsibility. He failed.
    Hopefully he NEVER gets custody of his other kids.

    Speaking of custody. Why did he have custody of Lucas?
    He lived on the road.
    An argument that holds water in family law.
    I dont understand. Theres alot we dont know.
     
  15. newmember

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    ik in the article released, link below, it references a few dates regarding doctor's notes. but maybe this had happened a few more times and it wasnt released to MSM - maybe the damage amount increased with multiple occurrences or there was one RX pad note that was for something more significant than "falling or the flu". maybe a prescription to a sedative/medicine Lucas absolutely did not need.

    http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article208704089.html

    http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article208704089.html

    http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article208704089.html
     
  16. WildcatRunner

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    Yes, it has been. It is related to the allegations he was rough with EG's son in early February.
     
  17. WildcatRunner

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    JO gave up custody on her own. Without cause, you can't have your child taken from you for having employment that requires travel, so there was no reason to not allow him custody. Professional athletes are a prime example. But you should have the common sense to ensure your child is in good care while you are gone.
     
  18. NervousNellie

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    No apology necessary... I'm just guessing. As ************* says, hopefully we will know something definitive by the end of the day.
     
  19. WildcatRunner

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    But KE's Court docs show the charge was for 1/11 - not multiple dates, and 2+ weeks prior to the doctor's notes. It could still be this, but I'm not sure how it can line up.

    Edit: I misinterpreted what you meant. You meant other doctor's notes were written at different times, and MSM doesn't have those dates. I was assuming you meant dates for the alleged crimes. My apologies.
     
  20. Are you thinking like disability or workmen's comp? If she had access to an rx pad, it's not the first or only time she's used it. To properly pull off forged rx to obtain drugs, more than likely she has an accomplice in the medical office to verify controlled rx to pharmacy standard procedure.
     
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