Found Deceased KS - Marilane Carter, 36, Overland Park, enroute to Birmingham, 1 Aug, call from Memphis, 2 Aug 2020

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  1. cluciano63

    cluciano63 Well-Known Member

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    I think a car accident, with the car out of view, is the simplest answer...jmo. This has been the case in several cases when the car can’t be located.
     


  2. EllaMae

    EllaMae Well-Known Member

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    I know many. In fact.....where I live churches, synagogues, mosques and meeting halls do open houses a couple of times a year and people attend services in different places of worship and then have a meal together. It's very popular. I grew up attending RC, Methodist and Baptist services because I have relatives and friends of several different denominations. We visited the churches of our friends all the time. I went to vacation Bible school at several Baptist churches with my Baptist cousins and friends, and they came to my Methodist one. At my father's funeral, a Catholic priest and a Baptist minister did the service. I went to synagogue with a Jewish friend quite often and she went to church with me too. I have celebrated the Hindu New Year at a temple with my daughter because we were invited by a Baptist friend who is married to a Hindu. My Southern Baptist cousin married a Mormon, and nobody blinked an eye.
    It's also quite common for parents of all faiths, and even non-believers, to send their children to Catholic schools because the academics are excellent, and non-Catholic children are allowed to skip religious classes.
    Marilane's background sounds quite different from mine. I grew up in Birmingham, a city which has many different cultures and religions. My neighborhood was quite diverse. But I didn't know any fundamentalist type Baptists at all.
     
  3. ?mysterian?

    ?mysterian? Well-Known Member

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    You're right, that's how it is in the southern U.S. IMO. Attending funerals or weddings of those folks of different denominations isn't as big a deal as attending a worship service of another denomination, IMO.

    If the wife of a Baptist pastor attended a Catholic worship service, that would be viewed as outrageous and a scandal. Converting? Much worse. She would be facing eternal damnation. IMO.
     
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    I so hope the tower data dumps will help focus in on areas so that law enforcement can lead informed searches and even volunteer ground searches. I hate to think she is injured somewhere or carjacked and no one is looking. Perhaps more specific data will get Memphis or law enforcement in other areas more involved. Heartbreaking to see her daughter celebrating her 3rd birthday.




     
  5. Hooman

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    The fact that her car hasn’t been located is very troubling. Someone mentioned earlier about the possibility of drug or alcohol abuse playing a part in her mental health issues. This lead me to wonder if perhaps she had prescription meds with her and intentionally or inadvertently took too much in her confused/agitated state and ended up on some nearby road that isn’t highly visible. Or perhaps she just kept driving and ended up somewhere far away from the Shell station lost, disoriented and overdosed. I pray this isn’t the case. I don’t think her husband is involved in her disappearance but I do feel he might have downplayed the severity of her illness for whatever reason. I have a close friend who is bipolar and before she was placed on the correct meds she took an overdose of her antidepressant because she said she just wanted to sleep and not feel “crazy.” She almost died. Until this happened to her you would have never made me believe she would even contemplate suicide. She has a daughter who is her world but mental illness can sometimes cause such darkness in one’s life. Thankfully, my friend is fine now.
    My heart breaks for M’s family, especially those precious children who can’t understand why Mommy isn’t there.
    Praying for her safe return.
     
  6. Tiger Stripes

    Tiger Stripes Well-Known Member

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    Jumping in late here, but 2 cents, FWIW: Could be that the family was stretched financially, and she figured that applying to be an elem. ed teacher would help to "bridge the gap".

    ETA: With the advent of Covid, many districts across the country have waived various requirements (since many districts have full-time teachers who have chosen to take early retirement, rather than to return to the classroom), so MC may have thought that with her past work with children, etc., she'd have a good chance of being considered for full-time employment. Of course, many teachers are also planning to start the new school year off by doing "virtual" learning, so... in Marilane's case, even if her children are still very young and not ready yet to attend school, she could still be at home with them, even while doing virtual teaching. All of this is entirely JMOO, of course, since none of us know exactly the outcome of her job application.
     
  7. Tiger Stripes

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    The more I read and think about this case, the more I think that Marilane is under the protective care of a place (think: mental health unit in a hospital, or even at a convent, etc.) where her identity are *totally* protected... Now then, whether or not LE can access that info., I have no idea, but...if she is in such a setting, then...
    a.) she is not about to just "reach out" to LE/her family (to say that she's okay); after all, *if* (big "if" here) she is in such a place, then she's being encouraged to just...be...still/quiet (and is probably oblivious to *any* searches, etc. being conducted for her). Would also likely *never* see the news/basic TV, etc.
    b.) this possibility (that Marilane *may* be in a "safe place") would also explain the lack of PCs on the part of LE, etc.

    ETA: It somehow seems, well, weird to think that (*if*, say, she were at a convent doing a "retreat"/time of quiet, etc.) random vehicles would be permitted to enter the grounds just to search for her vehicle (not saying that "outsiders' vehicles" are *not* permitted, but feel sure that such vehicles definitely *would* be scrutinized).

    In any case, praying specifically for Marilane this evening and throughout this difficult time for her family and friends...
     
  8. MemPat

    MemPat Without Art the Earth is just Eh!

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    I hope you're right. Has law enforcement said he's not involved during a press conference?
     
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  9. MemPat

    MemPat Without Art the Earth is just Eh!

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    Help-find, IIRC you're in the Memphis area. That fine therapist is Dr. Robert Serino near the Racquet Club. My experience was more than forty years ago!
     
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    So this Dr is the good doctor? Thanks, MemPat
     
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    a few random thoughts:
    They have, by my standards, an expensive home. Unless it is being paid for by the church, I sense financial difficulties.
    I narrow my eyes when I hear significant others mention “mental issues”. IMO this could be a deflection or simply a she has to be crazy to think/do that.
    Is she pregnant?
     
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    As far as finances go. While I don't pretend to know what the Carters are, I do know that these churches pay quite well. I've had some experience with pastors salaries from being on several committees at my church. The days of a church providing a pastorium are gone in the Southern Baptist convention. An allotment is given for the house payment. It's usually quite generous and considered a part of the annual salary.
     
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    From my experience as well, mid to large size churches compensate their head pastor competitively.
     
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    Knox Well-Known Member

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    Interesting, is that verifiable?
     
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    Pure speculation on my part but sleep issues can be caused by meth. That would also play into her being very thin. Just a thought...
     
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    SB205 posted that marilane received a small inheritance, but that it wouldn't be enough to have any effect on the current situation. It's upthread.
     
  18. Kacyarina

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    I believe the conversion to Roman Catholicism may, in part, be a tactic of one-upmanship on her part. It is the church of tradition, history, and intellectuality, among other things, and is a chance for her to look down upon what she deems as her husband's simplicity from a position of superiority.
     
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    i am going to throw out a theory, so it's pure speculation from my brainstorming on this case. moo.

    what if marilane's "mental illness" had everything to do with her converting to catholicism, and her husband and family both agreed to have her committed. (is that possible to do to a family member at her age?) AC is the one who booked the plane ticket home for her, and her family was going to pick her up and get her to the hospital he and her family had chosen. he insisted she go to an out- of -town facility due to his job and any shame that would bring on their family, and her family was on board with this idea. (could also explain all the phone calls searching for mental health facilities- it could have been adam calling.) marilane was tired of the pressure and looking for a way out, but felt ganged up on by her husband + family. so when AC and the kids went to bed, she ran. she pulled over at the hotel to get her bearings and rest for a few, and try to decide what to do. but she realized AC was tracking her card, and decided to keep on her journey, and didn't want him to find her. she had a suitcase in the car bc this was planned. (could also explain all the missing time, if she did NOT want to get closer to her family, and was on the road trying to figure out where to go. this could also explain why she hung up on her mom and AC, and got rid of her phone. this could also explain the silence from family, and the unsettling plea from AC, and the feeling he's not telling the whole truth.)

    only thing i come to after all of that is where is she now? where is her car? (it WOULD mean she's hopefully alive though!)
     
  20. Anicole

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    A little detour here about the problems that could arise from a pastor's wife converting ...

    I was raised Southern Baptist. My husband, Missionary Baptist. He's been a licensed MB preacher for 25 years or so. We "changed" denominations 6 years ago and are currently Church of God, in which he is ordained as a pastor.

    The main issue that, IMO, would cause the greatest problem is, the church board, deacons and congregation would see her conversion as him being unable to keep his house in order, therefore unable to lead a church. There's a difference in your kids going off the rails - also known as PK Syndrome: Preacher's Kid Syndrome - and your wife converting to a faith practice that is quite different. That would constitute a "house divided" or unequally yoked. It would divide the pastor's attentions in a way that being the shepherd of a flock would not be given the full attention that was needed. Once the church board/deacons/elders met to discuss, there would be an offer of some sort, likely, made, whereas he could have a leave of absence to figure it out. Should they divorce, it would then likely be discussed as to whether the divorce is under biblical terms and that could decide whether or not he kept his pastor position at the church. Then you get into remarriage and that's where it could get hairy, but that's another conversation for another day.
    I haven't done any research into what flavor their church is or what their governing regulations are. I have no idea if they're a fringe/charismatic/other flavor or run-of-the-mill.

    At any rate, had anyone in the church found out, that would certainly be cause for the family to circle the wagons and present a particular narrative as to what happened. I'm leaning toward no one knowing but getting close to knowing, since there haven't been any community interviews or articles with one of the church members or someone in the "know" having spoken publicly … which I find VERY strange. There's always that one person who speaks to the media, loud and clear.
     
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