KY - Barren Co., NtvFem UP9284, 20-50, Off Cumberland Pkwy, Aug'11 - Carma Purpura

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  1. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Moderator

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    http://glasgowdailytimes.com/breakingnews/x670929580/Skeletal-remains-found
     
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    The Barren River is in the area, but where the remains were found would be nearly impossible to get to (by boat, at least) from where he was last known to be. Were he to have wound up floating in the river near where his boat/vehicle were found, he would've floated toward Bowling Green. He was downstream of a fairly large reservoir (Barren River Lake). Beaver Creek is a tributary that flows into Barren River Lake. That would mean that there is a dam and a lake between the two locations.

    Wish we knew more about the remains. As of now, all they have is a skull. They don't know sex/race or how long the remains have been there.

    This story has a little different info than the Glasgow paper, but not much more or less. (they still don't know much at all, other than "they're not ancient Indian remains," which ain't much)
    http://bgdailynews.com/articles/2011/08/16/news/news1.txt
     
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    Just saw (on Doe) that his workplace was in Glasgow. So the bridge where the skull was found would be on the way to work (if he lived in Bowling Green). But I don't see how he could have gotten there since he didn't have a vehicle (they found it, so he couldn't have driven)
     
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    The Glasgow paper updated their story (but not with much new info) to state that the authorities don't think it is Fowler because it was so far afield from where his car/boat were found.

    http://glasgowdailytimes.com/local/x850301280/Skull-found-near-road-in-Barren-County

    I think they still have a LONG way to go in identifying the skull (they won't say if they found more bones). They say that there are area missing persons, but knowing that won't help much until they know age/sex/race and how old the bones are.

    Since the remains are skeletal, they could be a few months old or a century old until they've had a chance to test them. The Cumberland Parkway bridge is very near the KY-1297 bridge over Beaver Creek. Before the parkway was made in the early 1970s, KY-1297 was one of the main routes between Glasgow and Bowling Green. Wish more was known about the bones!
     
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    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Moderator

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    Ruled Out So Far:
    Aylene Barrick http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/barrick_alyne.html
    Walter Greg Fowler http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/fowler_walter.html


    Read More:
    http://bgdailynews.com/articles/2011/08/18/news/news6.txt
     
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    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Moderator

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    Peggy Sue Ashley Vinson fits the unusually tall (for a woman) height parameters.

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    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/v/vinson_peggy.html

    Her LKA (Scottsville KY) is only about 25 miles from Glasgow.

    And the circumstances of her disappearance seem consistent with the bullet hole in the skull.

    She also looks like someone who wouldn't mind being seen in a string bikini, although she wasn't wearing one when she was last seen.


    ETA:

    Nancy Ann Lockard also is within the height parameters, but Turkey Creek KY is about 250 miles from Glasgow.
    [​IMG]
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lockard_nancy.html
     
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    Some more who could fit:

    Iwuna Faye Tipton
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/tipton_iwuna.html

    Sonya Lynn Bradley
    (apparently, she had a LOT going on medically, but I don't know that any of her disorders would be noticeable on a skeleton)
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bradley_sonya.html

    Shannon Elaine Riley Arif
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/arif_shannon.html

    Erin Leigh Foster
    (missing with another person)
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/foster_erin.html

    Heather Danielle Teague
    (just thought of her because of bathing suit, but doesn't look like one found)
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/teague_heather.html
     
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    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Moderator

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    Here's the NamUs casefile for this UID:

    https://identifyus.org/cases/9284

    They are indicating "Unsure" for gender, despite that they have indicated in press releases that the victim is probably female.
     
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    Not surprising about the authorities in south-central KY saying "unsure" gender. They're apparently not the sharpest. Especially in regard to gender.

    There are at least two unidentifieds in the area that are listed as either male/female, while in documents related to the cases it is clear that they are the other sex. I know that many unidentifieds are thought to be one sex, but later (better) technology made them realize that they were not the sex they thought they were. I can understand that, with the advances in forensics over the past century.
    I just don't understand why so many such bodies were found in a relatively small area of rural Kentucky.
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    Remains found along Nunn Parkway from Native American

    Read More:
    http://bgdailynews.com/articles/2011/10/20/news/news3.txt

    They have revised the NamUs file accordingly:
    https://identifyus.org/cases/9284
     
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    rather tall for a Native American woman but let's see what's out there.
     
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    Yvonne Scot makes the most sense.
     
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    KY has a large population of Native Americans. I doubt it is someone as far as MI my money is on Sonya, She was depressed and a bullet to the skull could mean suicide
     
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    I'm no anthropologist but I think there is a difference between looking Native American and being Native American.

    could be her, I can't say but there must have been something about the remains that cause them to classify her as Native American to the exclusion of other groups.
     
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    I dont mean her clothes or dark hair, I mean her cheek bones, jaw etc. Her facial structure looks Native American \, not her style.
     
  21. Lizbetbathory

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    And dont for get if some one has mixed heritage it can be difficult to classify the remains once they are skeletanized
     

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