Found Safe KY - Kenneth Howard, 22mths, Salyersville, 12 May 2019

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  1. MicheleT

    MicheleT Well-Known Member

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    This is not directed at Trudie's post, but at the media's reporting of this.
    This part of several articles bothers me. Was this friend there and reporting what he was told or is he speculating? Are we getting two versions because he is telling one and Dad is telling the right one? Am I missing something in the coverage?
     
  2. ab01

    ab01 "What is done in the dark always comes to light"

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    From an article referring to the 1/2 mile grid search
    By WKYT News Staff |

    Posted: Mon 4:42 AM, May 13, 2019 |
    Updated: Tue 3:30 PM, May 14, 2019

    Official search resumes for missing toddler in Magoffin County


    “If I had a picture of it to show the area the dogs covered it would look like spaghetti strung all over," said Magoffin Co. Search and Rescue Chief Carter Conley.

    There is a wooded hillside behind and around the boy's home at the end of a hollow. The search grid is a half-mile radius from the house




    One challenge the teams face is the terrain. It's covered in trees and brush, and it's steep. Crews told WKYT they've had to use ropes to get down in a ravine. They also used a side-by-side and almost flipped at one point.


    Some are even more concerned because of the cooler weather and rainy conditions that have occurred since his disappearance.


    "It's gut-wrenching. It really is," emergency manager and family friend Robert Prater said. "As cool as it got last night and the rain, you start to worry about hypothermia."


    Search and rescue leaders say they've exhausted all of their resources and have done everything they know to do until they get more information from investigators.
     
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  3. Trudie

    Trudie Well-Known Member

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    Idk how noisy it is around there as far as atv/4 wheeling people out & about on the weekends. Also, I don’t mean someone pulled right up, but if anyone was watching, did they park & walk up? Only a thought.
    If dad was engaged in convo or a task, thinking K was playing...it could have happened.
    I think K was clearly well taken care of & loved, his pics show him dressed in brand name outfits, he’s clean & I know pics mean little but I think they do.
    I’m ruling out an accident covered up by family, I think they would have sped out of there, racing to a hospital or the closest location to meet up with an ambulance. Jmo
    I am deeply bothered about dad using past tense during his interview, tho.
     
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  4. Trudie

    Trudie Well-Known Member

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    SALYERSVILLE, Ky. (WKYT/WYMT) - Kentucky State Police are continuing the search for a Magoffin County toddler who hasn't been seen since Sunday evening.

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    WYMT reports troopers are bringing horses to assist in the search for 22-month-old Kenneth Howard Wednesday. Volunteers are also expected to participate in search efforts.

    Crews scoured the Kenneth Combs Road area of Magoffin County, near Floyd County Monday. Tuesday's search was expanded into Floyd County. Search leaders say they were contacted approximately one hour after Howard went missing Sunday night. Kentucky State Police is leading the investigation, and it is being considered a missing person case.

    **********************************************************************
    Many of you recall I wanted to search by horseback but the search was suddenly called off. Now it is too late for me & my cowboy posse to load up & go but I’m checking about horse search for tomorrow.
     
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  5. Mistree

    Mistree Well-Known Member

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    Just thinking of all possibilities,
    Wonder if whom ever dad was speaking with had a vehicle accessible for this little one to climb in or into the back?
    Not recognized?
     
  6. Trudie

    Trudie Well-Known Member

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    I thought about him climbing in the back of a truck?
    I wanted to bring this from my link in post #544:

    At this point, investigators are urging anyone with information to come forward.

    "Don't hesitate", said Conley. "If you think you might have spotted this child anywhere, don't hesitate to call the local state police."

    See....it makes me lean more towards abduction or
    a personal issue. Is this child safe, was he handed off to someone for some reason?
    Because we can assume he has not been seen in a strip mine or ravine by anyone.
     
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  7. ab01

    ab01 "What is done in the dark always comes to light"

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    I'm not ruling anything out other than the blatantly obvious:

    Theres no way in heck that 21 mo old scaled that steep hillside behind the house


    He may very well have wandered out to the road via the driveway

    Someone may have abducted him and the parents were inside longer than whats being told

    Or there may be foul play by someone that the child knew that LE hasn't uncovered yet

    JMO
     
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  8. Mistree

    Mistree Well-Known Member

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    Has anyone found this location on the maps so we know which one is accurate?
     
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  9. Mauig’ma

    Mauig’ma Well-Known Member

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    Yes toddlers have an attention span of a gnat!
     
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  10. Trudie

    Trudie Well-Known Member

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    Again, ita. He is not a Sherpa!

    I’m thinking how important a little namesake is down in the holler......

    Ya know? A little heir going missing on Mothers Day.
    Is there more here? Yes, I believe so.
    My gut is telling me he’s fine. I hope I’m right.
    All moo & speculation.
     
  11. ab01

    ab01 "What is done in the dark always comes to light"

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    This address should work in google maps/earth

    House is at the dead end of the road

    Gayheart Cemetery Road, Slayersville, KY, USA 41465

    must have the zip code entered
     
  12. Mistree

    Mistree Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for that but the poster I referenced mentioned it was a different location, maybe I’m confusing myself.
     
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  13. borndem

    borndem Anglophile & registered demwit

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    With a SAR group, is there a time limit/area limit, etc., which, after it has been passed, that the SAR activities are terminated?
    I've "seen" many searches here on WS, and when a "time" or whatever is called, the case is turned over to LE and investigators. Even then, however, local searchers will still organize and search or canvas an area.
    I would think that the wide-traveling groups have calls elsewhere quite often. My friend is a SAR member here in NC, and they do have several teams, mainly because not every member can go to a site on every call-up. The search & rescue searchers will sometimes have to turn their efforts over to the recovery group.
    Is it usual practice to call off a search after certain criteria are met? Just wondering if we're getting close to that here. SMH.
    This is just awful. That little, little boy.
     
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  14. Simply Southern

    Simply Southern Well-Known Member

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    I so hope your gut is right!!!!

    Get your horse ready just in case, please.
     
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  15. ab01

    ab01 "What is done in the dark always comes to light"

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    The location I posted is accurate FWIW

    The confusion comes because the map services don't actually recognize Kenneth Combs Road as an official road.
     
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  16. ClaireNC

    ClaireNC Well-Known Member

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    He reminds me of sweet little DeOrr Kunz.

    Hoping this one has a happier ending.
     
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  17. lonetraveler

    lonetraveler Crime Addict

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    I've often wondered why a search team isn't positioned a two mile radius out from the house what would search inward toward the house and a second search team positioned at the house searching outward and then the teams could meet. It seems that if the child has wandered much further than assumed, the team searching inward would have a better chance of finding them. JMO
     
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  18. Mistree

    Mistree Well-Known Member

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    Aww, ok I got it now!
    Thank you
     
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  19. JC40

    JC40 Well-Known Member

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    Whenever a parent / Guardian talk about what they are going through (in a missing case as this and not the welfare of their missing Son / daughter it should always be flagged.

    Whenever a parent / Guardian praises authorities when they haven't found their missing Son / daughter, again it should be flagged. (ingratiation)

    Mother of missing Magoffin County toddler speaks out - ABC 36 News

    Dad, Says similar.
    Mother of missing Magoffin County toddler speaks out - ABC 36 News

    However, we don't know if what they say is in response to a question. If not, then?.
     
  20. melodyl

    melodyl Well-Known Member

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    I don't think I've ever hoped that someone was wrong, but I am hoping that you are so wrong. He looks like such a well cared for and happy little guy. I know accidents happen to a lot of children who are just as well cared for & happy. I'm mostly hoping that you are wrong because I can't see how or why they would leave their little guy out in the elements for his little body to be ravaged by wildlife if it were an accident & there was no intent to harm.
    I'm still hoping little "bubby" is alive and cozied up somewhere to keep warm. I realize it's a long shot because of the weather the past couple nights, but I'm still hoping he beats all the odds.
     
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