GUILTY KY - Trey Zwicker, 14, beaten to death, Louisville, 11 May 2011 #2

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  1. lonetraveler

    lonetraveler Crime Addict

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    OK, I was leaping off of posts stating that she was his girlfriend.
     
  2. ShadyLady

    ShadyLady Well-Known Member

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    I am so done with some of these juries...
     
  3. ScarlettScarpetta

    ScarlettScarpetta When the going gets tough, drink coffee

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    I know.. Again I will be in the minority but here goes nothing.

    I think this kid was not guilty. I believe that his dad murdered Trey and that he used his son he had only known a short time to see if he could get away with it and see if JY would get less time. I think that JG is a monster. A true ugly monster. I believe that nothing in JY up to the time he went with his dad showed him to be at all capable or interested in killing someone but JG is a monster through and through.

    There was nothing to directly tie JY to the murder. No evidence. Nothing that said he was even there.

    I hope that he remains with his foster family and gets as far away from that clan of misfits that was his biological family and has a decent life.
     
  4. katiedid2

    katiedid2 New Member

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    Isn't he 17 years old? If so than that means he will only have one more years with the foster parents? Or when he turns 18 he can remain with them on his own. I hopehe has a healthy future! I'm torn also about. His guilt. He i feel participated. Moo
     
  5. bamacurious

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    well said Scarlett....and totally agree with you! :clap::clap::clap:
     
  6. katiedid2

    katiedid2 New Member

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    I think the stoneburners are very naive. I also think jy hascthesame ability as his father! To deceive,manipulate.
     
  7. katiedid2

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    Am I missing something? What's this to do with jg?
     
  8. katiedid2

    katiedid2 New Member

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    I so agree with you. You can't fix in seven months what took 17 years of being in a dysfunctional drug infested inviroment. With parents with no stability! Boundaries.
    Is it true that yg looked at the family of trey with a smirk? I missed it.
     
  9. katiedid2

    katiedid2 New Member

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    This isn't the first and only case where a juvenile has comitted murder. If you research you will find that it's not as uncommon as some may think. In some cases way young than jy.
     
  10. defense101

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    I think the bat and the clothes in the bag directly tied him to it, I would dread to be the foster family that would bring this <mod snip> into their home, it will be a sleepless night, every friging night IMO
     
  11. defense101

    defense101 New Member

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    There are children who commit heinous crimes and this is one of them, just wait he will be back in the news IMO
     
  12. ScarlettScarpetta

    ScarlettScarpetta When the going gets tough, drink coffee

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    Based on what? hearsay? Someone says he had it? But no bat is found, No clothes are found and not finger prints are found..

    I don't know how to say this politely so forgive me.. But these are not mensa candidates here. I believe if JY had killed him or participated there would be something to link him to it.

    I believe it is because they know who this kid really is. Not the kid that was subjected to JG for a few months. I believe whether JY was sent back or not, Trey would still be dead because it was JG who did it.
     
  13. defense101

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    As a juror I could not let this little **** walk away, I hate these jurors IMO
     
  14. knt

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    I may be wrong. I've seen it reported both ways, as a girlfriend and as his foster sister. I'd be interested to know which it is.
     
  15. defense101

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    Josh is kissing cousin, lets see what his murdering son does IMO
     
  16. defense101

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    <modsnip> take him in and see if you would feel the same oh poor ** ****en Josh oh my poor little man have him sleep next to your kids, see what you would you feel, no eh
     
  17. defense101

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    For all you that think he is so innocent have him live in the house next door to you and see how the **** you would feel and ask that of the jury they are in Kentucky so I hope you live with your decision, and have him live next door to your kids MF, but I want to see where the this kid goes for the next 5 years, cause believe me will bee a detriment to your family.
     
  18. LAMARQ

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    I read they are trying to adopt him.
     
  19. defense101

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    God F help them! IMO
     
  20. oceanblueeyes

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    Fingerprints on what? The bat was never found nor his clothing. Just because the defendant gets rid of the weapon and clothing doesn't mean he didn't do the crime.

    You rarely will find mensa candidates in families who are this dysfunctional so I certainly wasn't expecting to see any in this case. But even intelligent people can act pretty damn stupid since I have seen rocket scientists, doctors, and lawyers leave obvious evidence behind when they murdered. Perhaps it is because they weren't raised to be criminals and wasn't aware of what must be done when they did resort to murder.

    The ADA in the sentencing phase for Gouker stated in open court that Josh Young videoed his father murdering the dog and laughing as he did so. That is not a normal person and never will be. Just because he looked like a baby faced nerd doesn't mean he is one either. Imo, he is vile and as wicked as his father. He just hides it behind the mask pretending to be a benign kid.

    In a way this case reminds me of when Mel Ignato got away with murder. It was a CE case like most are..........like the Young case too. They had no forensic evidence whatsoever linking him to the murder of his ex-girlfriend but they did have an eye witness to the crime. The thing is though she was much like a Gouker groupie would be. Had a criminal past, used drugs etc etc.

    She testified that she was there with him when he raped, tortured, and finally murdered his gf. She testified that he even had her video tape it he was so proud of what he was doing. Of course by the time police came to do a SW no video could be found. Gone.........just like Josh Young's clothing and the weapon he used was long gone by the time they arrested him in late June. So the jury of course did not believe this woman..........how dare she testify against this business man......she used drugs so she just couldn't be telling the truth. So the jury sets him free as a bird.

    Later on though he had sold his big home (the one he murdered her in) and the new owner was having new carpet put in causing the carpet layer to have to remove the vents in the floor and yep, there it was the video showing the entire rape/torture/murder of a young beautiful woman just like the drug user testified truthfully to. Her family didn't get justice either just like the Zwickers didn't because all the evidence had been hidden however he was as guilty as Josh Young is. They both were just lucky. Josh got lucky by have an ex-felon for a dad who knew how to save him from going to prison. He said he would do it and he did. Ignato got lucky because he knew no one would believe a highly dysfunctional woman. A woman much like the ones we have seen in this case.

    It doesn't take many brain cells to know to discard the weapon and clothing before anyone else who cares even knows the person is dead. He was brought up in homes where criminal activity was known and acceptable. This didn't just begin with Gouker. He grew up in a home with a mother who was a drug addict and had people in her life that were just as sorry as Gouker and his misfits in society.

    The ones who know how to do crimes and get away with them are ones who have never respected the law during their lives in the first place. While most citizens aren't thinking of ways to cover up crimes these kind of people think of it often and are often good at it too. So many cases are unsolved today. More and more people know how to cover up crimes just like those in this case.

    IMO
     
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