OK LA - Annette Craver Vail, 18, Sulphur, 5 Oct 1984

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    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Former Member

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    Annette Michelle Craver Vail

    Endangered Missing

    Missing From: Tulsa, Oklahoma

    Missing Since: October 22, 1984

    Age: 18 -- Height: 5'6" -- Weight: 115 lbs -- Hair Color: Lt. Brown -- Eye Color: Brown

    Annette has a small scar on her forehead near her hairline.


    Annette was reported missing by her mother after she had been out of contact for several weeks. Annette's husband told police that the last time he knew of her whereabouts, she was boarding a bus in St. Louis and was going to Mexico, however this information has never been confirmed. She was last seen by a relative in Sulphur, Louisiana, around October 5, 1984 before the alleged camping trip. Foul play is suspected.


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    Not Annette, but her husband's previous wife. Well, one of them.



    Vail charged with murder in 1962 drowning of wife

    Felix Vail arrived in Lake Charles on a Calcasieu Parish Sheriff’s Office plane late Friday night.

    Vail, charged Friday with second-degree murder in the 1962 death of his wife Mary Horton Vail, was arrested Friday afternoon in Comal County, Texas.

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    Mary Horton Vail was 22 years old when she drowned in the Calcasieu River.

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    Vail is also the last person to see two other women alive — a girlfriend, Sharon Hensley, was last seen in Sulphur in 1973, and another wife, Annette Craver Vail, was last seen in 1984.

    More: http://www.americanpress.com/news/local/Vail-charged-with-murder-in-1962-drowning-of-wife
     
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    13 Apr 2014 - The Clarion-Ledger:

    http://tinyurl.com/mj7wh5s
     
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    Annette resembles the actress Jennifer Lawrence. The eyes/smile.

    Sadly, I think her husband took her life before she was ever reported missing.
     
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    Annette is mentioned in this article from June about the ongoing murder trial against Felix Vail for killing his other wife.
    Thank you, Mr. Abshire, for wanting the truth to be known, even after a half century.
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/05/21/serial-killer-witness-death-testify/9365707/
    https://www.facebook.com/doyouknowfelixvail/photos/a.454126938046648.1073741828.453755741417101/592368150889192/?type=1
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    Annette Vail

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/8284/9/
    30 years ago today.
     
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    :( Is there any way this Jane Doe could be Annette?

    http://www.tcso.org/tcsoweb/ColdCaseDetails.aspx?id=16&Case=89-H-001

    She was found in January of 1989. Her remains were skeletal, indicating that she was there for quite some time. Annette went missing in 84 so it's possible.

    Jane Doe also had rings on her left ring finger, indicating to me that she was probably married.
     
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    Doe Network has a photo of Annette with a wide smile that when I enlarge it to see her teeth and it gets real fuzzy, they look straight. Not at all like this Jane Doe's. But that's my fuzzy visual, too. (read as - not that reliable.) Also, Annette is 66-67 inches tall and the Jane Doe is 69-72 inches tall. A two inch difference isn't enough to eliminate, but a six inch difference usually is so can't eliminate based on that either. The two items combined though, make me think Jane is not likely to be Annette.
    I couldn't find the Jane Doe in NamUs to see if there's been any rule-outs.
     
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    Pink Panther, thank you for posting these stories. Although the first is very long, it is well worth the read. This could be made into a great movie!

    So sad for all the victims here. This story is so sad, especially the part about his son being with him at age 7-8 and being forced to smoke marijuana and do LSD! And he turned out to be so successful! What a story.
     
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    I did notice Jane Doe's teeth were pretty crooked but thought it fit the timeline enough to at least consider her.

    It seems that perhaps Jane Doe was found in too obvious a place for Felix's style anyway... :-/

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    Greenfield woman wins right to testify to daughter’s 30-year-long ‘disappearance’

    http://www.recorder.com/home/14572266-95/greenfield-woman-wins-right-to-testify-to-daughters-30-year-long-disappearance


     
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    What a terrible man! I have a feeling they may never find her body.
     
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    "Local woman headed to La. to testify in murder trial" - September 1, 2015

    http://www.recorder.com/news/townbytown/greenfield/18420151-95/local-woman-headed-to-la-to-testify-in-murder-trial

    Unfortunately, the families will have to wait a little longer to get their day in court as a delay for the trial is expected.

    http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/local/journeytojustice/2015/10/08/felix-vail-trial-delay/73615570/

    Websleuths Thread for Felix Vail
     
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    Trial postponed; a hearing has been set for January.

    Mary Newton Rose’s chance to take the stand against her daughter’s ex, a suspected serial killer, postponed

    http://www.recorder.com/news/townbytown/greenfield/19313620-95/local-woman-still-waiting-for-justice

     
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    Greenfield woman to testify in murder trial, 32 years after her daughter’s disappearance

    http://www.recorder.com/Greenfield-woman-testifying-in-Felix-Vail-murder-trial-3717760

     
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    I've submitted Annette as a potential match for an unidentified female found in Florida in 1988. Both of their DNA profiles are available, which implies a CODIS rule out, yet the resemblance is very strong to the Jane Doe's NCMEC reconstruction. The Jane Doe had died a few years before she was located, consistant with Annette's 1984 disappearance.
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    From the article these quotes below makes me think there should be a timeline made of this guy of places he lived and if any women went missing at the time he was living there.

    .(((Publicity about Vail’s case fueled questions from people across the country. When did he live in California? Texas? Florida? And most often, “Were there other victims?”)))
    ((((She said Bill also told her about how he found a photograph of a naked black woman, face down, inside a box his father kept. “Bill wondered if she was alive or not.”))))

    There really could be more victims.. I know I read in the article that he had journals but had pages missing out of those journals.. it would be interesting to know the dates of the pages that were torn out and if they would match any other timeframe of missing women; and I wonder if Annette and Sharon have been found already but for one reason or another remain unidentified.


    Thank you to Annettes Mom Rose who Never gave up.. really she is an amazing woman!.. I could only imagine how hard this was for her!
     

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