LA LA - Caddo Parish (?), BlkFem UP2784/1213UFLA, 10-14, Unknown circumstances, Sep'07

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  1. GJKJR

    GJKJR Active Member

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    I was looking through the LSU FACES lab and I discovered this case, which I believe has not been listed on Websleuths before.

    The Doe Network: 1213UFLA

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    Unidentified Female
    • Date of Discovery: September 11, 2007
    • Location of Discovery: Caddo Parish, Louisiana
    • Estimated Date of Death: 5 years prior
    • State of Remains: Not recognizable - Near complete or complete skeleton
    • Cause of Death: Unknown

    Physical Description
    ** Listed information is approximate


    • Estimated Age: 10-14 years old
    • Race: Black
    • Gender: Female
    • Height: Unknown
    • Weight: Unknown
    • Hair Color: Unknown
    • Eye Color: Unknown


    • Distinguishing Marks/Features: Unknown


    • Dentals: Available.
    • Fingerprints: Not available.
    • DNA: Available.
    Clothing & Personal Items
    • Clothing: Unknown


    • Jewelry: Unknown


    • Additional Personal Items: Unknown




    Case History
    Unknown circumstances with no case information available. This case may not be from Caddo Parish, Louisiana.

    http://identifyla.lsu.edu/profile.php?id=424

    Profile

    Date found: 2007-09-11
    PMI: 5 years to 15 or more years
    Location: Caddo Parish, Louisiana
    Est. age at death: 10 to 14
    Sex: female
    Race: Black
    Dental Records: Available
    DNA Records: Available
    FACES Case #: 07-42

    Additional details
    Unknown

    The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

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    The case details are so incredibly vague. My main question is how are they not even sure the case was from Caddo Parish? Poor record keeping? I'm surprised by the vagueness because I didn't expect a case from 2007 to have so few details. Also, the PMI is 5-15+ years according to LSU FACES, which is probably one of the largest PMIs I've ever seen. At least there's something to go off of: a good-quality reconstruction.
     
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  2. Cubby

    Cubby fly the W!

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    I sure hope DNA is available for this case. As for the little bit of information it could be a lost paper file or software failure with no way to recover the info.
     
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  3. GJKJR

    GJKJR Active Member

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    Fortunately, DNA is available, as well as dentals. That explanation would make sense, a lost file or something along those lines is definitely not unheard of and would explain the little info available on such aspects as the location discovered.

    With how long the postmortem interval is, it makes me wonder where the body was discovered. A home, thick forest/brush? If only we had more info...

    Looking for potential matches from S Arkansas, E Texas, and North/North-central Louisiana, I found 2 potential matches, although the angle of the photos makes it a bit hard for me to determine just how much the jawline resembles that of the UID.

    Lakeisha Buckner -

    The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

    Renata Whitehead -

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  4. Jim_M

    Jim_M Well-Known Member

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    If they reconstructed the chin perfectly, I would lean more towards Lakiesha.
    IMO Renata has a more defined angle that I'm seeing. I will attempt side by's:

    1213UFLA_LARGE.jpg Lakiesha Trenail Buckner 16Y Blk Fem.jpg
    1213UFLA_LARGE.jpg Renata Shariss 14Y Blk Fem.jpg
     
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  5. Amonet

    Amonet Well-Known Member

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    It baffles me how a child in that age range can go unidentified for so long :(
     
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  6. GJKJR

    GJKJR Active Member

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    Yeah, Renata's jawline does seem more defined when you look at a side view. For lack of better words, it looks like the lowest part of the jawline has a smaller "plateau." I was curious about it, though, because the age progression shown on Charley Project, NamUS, etc. shows a similar jawline to the Jane Doe, although I am not sure if this would be representative of her jawline at the age she went missing.
     
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  7. GJKJR

    GJKJR Active Member

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    I can't believe I forgot to look at the rule-outs list on NamUs! I guess I forgot to sign-in, that happens a lot. Lakeisha Buckner has been ruled out, but Renata Whitehead has not.
     
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  8. YaYa_521

    YaYa_521 Every Body's Name Matters

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    The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
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    1 image; 7 exclusions.

    With absolutely nothing to go in terms of descriptors except approximations of age, race, and timeframe, here are a few potential matches.

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    Missing Person / NamUs #MP6768
    Elyssa Marie Vasquez, Female, Other

    Date of Last Contact. January 28, 2003
    Missing From. Doraville, Georgia
    Missing Age. 12 Years

    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Elyssa was last seen, when she was 12 years old, at school on January 28, 2003. Elyssa has pierced ears and a round scar near her right shoulder. She is Biracial. Elyssa is Black and Hispanic. Her nicknames are Lisa and Lee Lee.
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    Missing Person / NamUs #MP4230
    Renata Shariss... Whitehead, Female, Black / African American

    Date of Last Contact June 8, 1996
    Missing From. Jonesville, Louisiana
    Missing Age. 14 years

    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Last seen getting into father's vehicle in Jonesville, LA
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    Missing Person / NamUs #MP6370
    Celina Janette Mays, Female, Black / African American

    Date of Last Contact. December 16, 1996
    Missing From. Willingboro, New Jersey
    Missing Age. 12 Years

    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Celina's photo is shown age-progressed to 19 years. She was 9 months pregnant at the time of her disappearance. It is believed she has given birth and may be in need of medical assistance. Celina's eyebrows grow together.
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    Missing Person / NamUs #MP6239
    Lakisha Danielle Jones, Female, Black / African American

    Date of Last Contact. December 15, 1999
    Missing From. Nashville, Tennessee
    Missing Age. 15 Years

    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Lakisha may be in the Nashville or Memphis, Tennessee areas. She has a scar under her left eye and a tattoo of "C47" on her right thigh. Lakisha was last seen wearing a black shirt, green pants, a black jacket, and black shoes.
     
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  9. YaYa_521

    YaYa_521 Every Body's Name Matters

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    More potential matches.

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    No photo or exclusions.

    Missing Person / NamUs #MP42021
    Magdalena Riquious, Female, Other

    Date of Last Contact. September 13, 2003
    Missing From Pooler, Georgia
    Missing Age 15 Years
    Circumstances of Disappearance-
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    Other distinctive physical characteristic

    subject does not speak any English and is Hispanic
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    Missing Person / NamUs #MP6406
    Stefanie C. Mills, Female, Black / African American
    Date of Last Contact. March 7, 2002
    Missing From. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
    Missing Age. 16 Years

    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Stefanie may travel to the Colorado Springs, Colorado area. She has pierced ears and a scar on her right forearm. Her nickname is Stef.
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    Missing Person / NamUs #MP4238
    Bethany Leanne Markowski, Female, White / Caucasian

    Date of Last Contact. March 4, 2001
    Missing From. Jackson, Tennessee
    Missing Age. 11 Years

    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Bethany was last seen on March 4, 2001. She may have been traveling from Little Rock, Arkansas with a destination of Waverly, Tennessee.
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    Missing Person / NamUs #MP5811
    Laura Ayala, Female, Multiple

    Date of Last Contact. March 10, 2002
    Missing From. Houston, Texas
    Missing Age 13 Years

    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Laura left her apartment building to walk to the local gas station to purchase a newspaper. She was observed by the clerk. She never arrived back home.

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    Missing Person / NamUs #MP5793
    Reyna Gabriella Alvarado-Carrera, Female, Hispanic / Latino

    Date of Last Contact. May 6, 2005
    Missing From. Norcross, Georgia
    Missing Age. 13 Years

    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Reyna was last seen on May 6, 2005 at her home in Norcross, Georgia. She may be in the company of an adult male. They may still be in the local area, or they may have traveled to Phoenix, Arizona, Los Angeles, California or Mexico. Reyna's nickname is Gaby.

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    Missing Person / NamUs #MP6250
    Yansis Massiel Juarez, Female, Hispanic / Latino
    Date of Last Contact. May 5, 2002
    Missing From. Miami, Florida
    Missing Age. 15 Years

    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Yansis' profile photo is shown age-progressed to 31 years. Her ears and right eyebrow are pierced. Yansis may use the last name Juarez Rodriguez. She was last seen in Miami on May 5, 2002
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  10. GJKJR

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    It looks like there aren't too many noses that look similar to the reconstructions. I find it interesting that much of the route from Norcross, GA, where Reyna was last seen, to Phoenix, AZ, is covered by I-20, which goes through Caddo Parish. The jaw looks a bit weak, though, from the picture supplied. As well as this, the LKA date is 2 years before, which wouldn't match the estimated PMI; I could see the PMI being off though, I'm not sure how they could have determined that the lower end of the PMI was 5 years.

    Yansis's jaw looks different from the UID to me, and she's Hispanic. Personally, I doubt it, but who knows. Same with Bethany Markowski (who seemed to be traveling in the opposite direction? Unless she didn't or something happened along the way and she got to LA).

    Laura Ayala's jaw and nose look different from the UID to me, the circumstances remind me of someone who likely would have been found in or around Houston. Unless she somehow ran away.

    Stefanie Mills's nose has a resemblance to me, but the jaw doesn't look the same to me. Same for Celina Mays.

    Not sure about Magdalena Riquious, since there's no pic and it's quite hard to get any other info about the UID so without a pic there's not too much to go off of.

    I do think Lakisha Jones has a vague resemblance in the jaw area, but the nose looks a bit different. I wonder if some of LSU FACE's nose estimations are off, though, because some of the reconstructions on their website have very large noses, I've also seen one or two with very small noses so I can't really accurately say. If they are off to an extent, it would make me question the jaw estimation as well.

    Elyssa Vazquez's nose and jaw look different to me, but, as before, am starting to wonder about LSU FACE's reconstruction.

    All JMO, thank you for suggesting potential matches! It's hard to find potential matches with so little to go off of, it seems.
     
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    iulia Well-Known Member

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    Could Tara Raymond be a possibility here? She's the right age and fits a PMI of 5-15+ years. Not sure how much she looks like the reconstruction and she went missing from 5+ hours away, but they acknowledge that this unidentified girl could be from outside of where her remains were stored.


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    The Doe Network:
    Case File 1348DFLA

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    Tara on left, CPJD on right


    Taranika Nichelle Raymond
    Missing since November 13, 1995 from New Orleans, Orleans Parish, Louisiana
    Classification: Endangered Runaway



    Vital Statistics

      • Date Of Birth: July 6, 1982
      • Age at Time of Disappearance: 13 years old
      • Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'3" (160 cm); 165 lbs (75 kg)
      • Distinguishing Characteristics: Black female. Black hair, brown eyes.
      • Marks, Scars: Both ears pierced. Dimple mark on left side of face.
      • Jewelry: Gold Apple earings with "Tara" written on it. Gold Apple ring with "Tara" written on it. Green medalion ring with "Tara" and "Betty" written on it.
      • DNA: Available


    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Taranika Raymond was last seen November 13, 1995 at her North Derbigny Street home in New Orleans. According to police, the girl's mother saw her at 22.00, but was unable to find her two hours later.
    Although there were no signs of foul play, the possibility has not been ruled out. She may still be in the local area.



    Investigators
    If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:

    New Orleans Police Department
    504-826-1265


    Agency Case Number: A3569697

    Source Information:
    National Center for Missing & Exploited Children
    Times-Picayune
     
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    Has anyone looked a little further from where she was found?
    Alexis S Patterson went missing in 2002, at age 7, in 2007 (estimated date of death of UP2784 ) Alexis would be 12 in 2007 and they look similar with the time progression photos
    The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
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