LA LA - Ellis Baudean, 4, in water near Twin Canals Trail, Jean Laffite Nat Hist Park, 15 Jul 2021

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  1. YaYa_521

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    This video shows snippets of the construction process of the temporary dam that was built in order to drain the canal.

     
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    Thank you for the updates!
     
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    I know many folks who work for SCSO who were there working with JPSO and they said there are many, many different stories. At first they weren’t even sure where he went in.

     
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    Thanks for posting this. These recovery methods are so interesting!

    Graphic nature facts warning:

    I lived near alligators and have seen them lunge high out of the water to grab birds and other prey. They are absolutely fascinating creatures, just dinosaurs really. They usually keep their prey underwater for a day or more before consuming.

    During Spring mating season there are many stories of aggressive and adventurous alligators..walking through neighborhoods, climbing fences, swimming in our pools, grabbing dogs off leashes. They will do almost anything to find a mate.

    Alligators are typically more docile during other seasons unless people & dogs frequently splash their shores..that will bring them in and they will watch and wait patiently for weeks for the next opportunity to grab their next meal,

    With all that being said, I am not convinced this was an alligator attack.
     
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    I wish I did not look this up on SM.
     
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    What other adult besides mom can verify the child was there at this park that day?
     
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    Well, mom should know exactly where they were when he fell, was pulled in by a gator or was bumped/pushed into the water. I say pushed or bumped b/c there was a 3YO there and chit happens, ya know. It may have happened when mom was flying or fixing the kite or while she was walking towards the car. Who knows... :)
     
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    Yeah, that's probably not the greatest idea, for now. :rolleyes:
     
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    I wondered that, too. While looking through the photos and vids posted on Google Maps I noticed some surveillance cams at the Visitors Center. Hopefully those are working properly. Still, Mom, Ellis, and the 3YO may not have been captured by the cameras depending on where in the park they were flying their kite. I don't remember if I saw any cameras in the parking lot. Off to look for that now.
     
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    Two questions:
    Was he really there with Mom and the other child?
    If he did go into the water, did an alligator get him?
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    If his body is still in the water, let's hope it surfaces soon -- I don't trust those amazing and hungry gators and their natural habits.

    Many thanks to the people who dammed/drained the water area. Seems that they have done more than the ordinary for this little boy and for those who truly love him.
    My heart aches.
     
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    I am not sure he was ever at this park.
     
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    So what do I go and do? UGH!
     
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    Unfortunately, our efforts to pump out the area of interest in the canal were not completely successful. We lost the clay dam earlier tonight, and the original water levels returned quickly. Our recovery efforts will now resume their passive status for the next few days.
    MORE AT LINK PLUS COMMENTS
     
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    I hope recovery efforts are including LOTS of interviews and investigating.
     
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    This is so sad, he has such a beautiful smile what a shame this happened! Gators are incredibly fast, if it was in the water submerged except for its eyes and the child was standing near the edge it would have only taken a second or two to grab the boy and back into the water. The gator may have swum to a different location after that taking the boy with it, or if he fell in a gator resting underwater would have heard the splash and grabbed the boy before he could even surface. I feel so bad for the mother and family, I personally would never take my children on a trail knowing gators can be almost anywhere and fly a kite!!! First of all kite flying involves everyone looking up, a gator could walk right up and grab any three of them before they could get away. It is my opinion that it was a spur-of-the-moment idea and poor decision making, which this poor mother will forever regret, but all of us at one time or another have made a spur-of-the-moment decision that we may live to regret!!! I believe it is an accident by a mother who loved her children and was just looking to give them a fun time outdoors in the fresh air. My prayers go out to the family, I can't even imagine what they are going through!!! They are in my thoughts and prayers. <3
     
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    You’re not the only one unfortunately. Including some people who were there helping. Hope we are wrong but like my husband told me (he’s LEO and some of his coworkers were there), WE won’t know that and what they’re doing to look into it. Poor baby. He’s just precious. I hate it for him either way.
     
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    I can't believe there haven't been any updates on little man's case. I would think the family and LE would be publicly pleading with folks to keep an eye out for any signs of Ellis when they're visiting JLNHP. I mean, it's tourist season down there. Does anyone know if there are any MP signs about Ellis' mishap posted at the park? Hopefully they'll get answers soon.
     

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