GUILTY LA - Jaren Lockhart, 22, New Orleans, 5 June 2012 - #6

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Would considering MAS truly believed she was legally married to TS play any role in her thought processes on 6/5/2012? Would she have thought he had spousal privilige or immunity that is sometimes opted in/out between married defendants/witnesses and she was as safe as having no witnesses?

Does anyone remember that? I'm overdue for a re-read.
I don't know, Kate. She did tell the officers who arrested them they were married. So maybe in her mind she thought it would be to her benefit.

In the second report, Fox reported that :
Hancock County investigators say while Terry Speaks and Margaret Sanchez aren't saying much during questioning, Sanchez did vent over a Bourbon Street wedding she said she had with Speaks, a marriage that turned out not to be legit.

Detectives tell us Sanchez said she and Speaks were married earlier this year by a minister who also works as a doorman in Bourbon's 300 block.
Cops who interviewed her said she was miffed when she later learned she wasn't legally married.
http://www.bayoubuzz.com/buzz/item/...ess-dismembering-info-in-jaren-lockhart-probe
When I was looking for that article I ran across the interview with the couple they spent a night with right before they left town. I'd forgotten about the items seized from the friends' home. A pair of panties, maybe.
“The last time we saw [Speaks and Sanchez] was the Monday before they were arrested. She packed quite a few bags, saying they were being evicted from her house and they were going to be staying the night with us.”

Once it was learned Speaks and Sanchez were arrested as persons of interest in Lockhart’s murder, the Metairie couple called the FBI and would soon have several agents and police officers in their home.


A laptop and clothes were taken by authorities.
Also, I was looking at the pictures from the Kenner house search again. Still wanna know what this guy is looking at in his hand. In the first picture, on the right, you can see where an investigator must have spotted something in the grass and flagged it. In the second photo, the detective is holding the flag, and it looks like something is laying in his palm. Is it a chain or a piece of wire?

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And I didn't recall this item. It looks like some kind of frame dug out of the ground. Can anyone ID it?

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http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2012/06/persons_of_interest_in_death_o.html
 
I blew up the picture then looked at it with a magnifying glass, it looks like a piece of wire cut from a chain link fence to me.
 
Here's my theory: based on having worked at that club where Jaren did work when these creeps scouted her and just the lifestyle in general

At Jaren's club, you can pay to leave early or pay the DJ so you can skip stage all night. It's basically a normal neighborhood strip club, nothing fancy and the house fees are standard. The only difference is that you can pay to leave your shift and no one cares if you walk out with customers *that's usually a huge no-no and you're fired*. Some clubs are more take-out friendlier than others, this is one of them.

I think MAS and TS went in that club and were paid by someone else to bring back a female. I would be highly interested in knowing what the other girl looked like that they asked before Jaren, to go home with them. I would like to know what the drug was as well, because I'm guessing right now it was blow and maybe pills.

I think they MAS and TS didn't bring up that this other person was going to be there and if there was truly a fight, this might be why Jaren and MAS got into it. If Jaren agreed to go and then when they arrived she was stunned to find this other person there and didn't want to stay (and MAS, TS were depending on her to be compliant to get paid), MAS might have been instructed to go get Jaren and talk to her.

I have always maintained that strip club customers who give out phone #'s and try to get you to leave with them are scary scary people. Scarier than those who call up escorts or even my side-job. I feel like these customers have the fuel of substances (alcohol) and time to flash around cash to entice people who they weaken by catering to them *giving them money in the vip area, tips, alcohol, blow ...pills..* and making the girl trust them a bit, enough to know they aren't at least vice. A lot of dancers go missing or get horribly harmed because of situations like these.
 
Thanks, CP. That's what I thought, too. I've been saying all along that they put something (JL) in the field behind the house, and then drove around to retrieve it with the car. But I wasn't sure how they were able to manage that because I didn't know what kind of fence was back there, if there was a fence at all. So today I tried once again to see through the shrubs. With the magnifier, and the screen zoomed in to 170%, I could barely make out the chain link fence, and I figured that's what he was holding in his hand. But my eyes are getting so bad, I wanted to get a second opinion. When I've looked at that picture in the past, I thought he was sifting dirt through his fingers. LOL
 
Here's my theory: based on having worked at that club where Jaren did work when these creeps scouted her and just the lifestyle in general

At Jaren's club, you can pay to leave early or pay the DJ so you can skip stage all night. It's basically a normal neighborhood strip club, nothing fancy and the house fees are standard. The only difference is that you can pay to leave your shift and no one cares if you walk out with customers *that's usually a huge no-no and you're fired*. Some clubs are more take-out friendlier than others, this is one of them.

I think MAS and TS went in that club and were paid by someone else to bring back a female. I would be highly interested in knowing what the other girl looked like that they asked before Jaren, to go home with them. I would like to know what the drug was as well, because I'm guessing right now it was blow and maybe pills.

I think they MAS and TS didn't bring up that this other person was going to be there and if there was truly a fight, this might be why Jaren and MAS got into it. If Jaren agreed to go and then when they arrived she was stunned to find this other person there and didn't want to stay (and MAS, TS were depending on her to be compliant to get paid), MAS might have been instructed to go get Jaren and talk to her.

I have always maintained that strip club customers who give out phone #'s and try to get you to leave with them are scary scary people. Scarier than those who call up escorts or even my side-job. I feel like these customers have the fuel of substances (alcohol) and time to flash around cash to entice people who they weaken by catering to them *giving them money in the vip area, tips, alcohol, blow ...pills..* and making the girl trust them a bit, enough to know they aren't at least vice. A lot of dancers go missing or get horribly harmed because of situations like these.
I've been arguing that since the beginning until I finally shut up about it. :) I know how things work in the Quarter, and I know TS's type -- doorman/street person/hustler -- the guy one seeks out when one needs special accomodations.
 
Here's my theory: based on having worked at that club where Jaren did work when these creeps scouted her and just the lifestyle in general

I think MAS and TS went in that club and were paid by someone else to bring back a female. I would be highly interested in knowing what the other girl looked like that they asked before Jaren, to go home with them. I would like to know what the drug was as well, because I'm guessing right now it was blow and maybe pills.

I think they MAS and TS didn't bring up that this other person was going to be there and if there was truly a fight, this might be why Jaren and MAS got into it. If Jaren agreed to go and then when they arrived she was stunned to find this other person there and didn't want to stay (and MAS, TS were depending on her to be compliant to get paid), MAS might have been instructed to go get Jaren and talk to her.

Respectfully snipped by me.

Great theory! When the case was in Hancock County I thought maybe MAS and TS were being paid to bring a dancer to the coast. I always wondered if they were acting as an escort service with their pay being part of the party or a share in the drugs involved. I don't see how or why they would have invited a dancer with intent to kill her who may have already known them, who could ID them if the plan failed, who would be seen on cameras with them, and who worked with others who could ID them. Seemed like too much evidence before the crime even took place-JMO.
 
Not to derail this thread but to give some insight to the strip club hustle of a door-guy (not all but literally most):

Bouncers and door guys encounter an entire shift of strangers or bar patrons. Often times these patrons will flash around money, tip the door guys or bouncers to set them up with ladies that would be "fun" (and they give an outline of what their fun is exactly). Bouncers, mngmt and door guys all arrange these things. Everywhere.

*currently I'm on tour with the one of the largest strip-club franchises in the US. Our club absolutely does this and even has a "limo service" to allow the girls to be on shift yet leave with customers, as long as they take the limo. Every night I'm approached at least twice by mgmnt or floor hosts and ushered to a table for customers I've been selected for. I never have left with a customer and don't do shady stuff but they almost always are hoping I will/do - and they push me away once they understand I'm there to make money, not leave with them for a sum of money.

It is highly probably that TS knew this hustle and employed it to make side cash. Your avg door guy makes min wage plus tips, and boy do they depend on tips. They also are the guys the girls get to know a bit better and trust because these are the men who usually walk us to our taxi or car, load our gear up and that we tip for doing so. We feel "safe" with them in this unspoken type code. Jaren likely knew TS, at least through word of mouth that night and decided that MAS couldn't be all that bad if she was with TS. And if Jaren knew TS - maybe he hooked her up with a good paying patron before or something to that effect.

TS probably (most likely) knew a guy or guys that wanted a dancer or woman for the night, and TS / MAS worked as the middle man. This means he gets a cut of the pay for delivering, however I could totally see Jaren being left out of this tid bit of information and thinking it was just a 3-way with mas, ts with drugs ... and then getting there and the game is shifted or switched up.

I think in the email to MAS about panties and fluids was more or less directed towards MAS about her own behavior that night and that was TS's way of calling her "loose" and placing this paying customer at the scene. Does that make sense? MAS slept with both Ts and another guy *probably the one Jaren was hired for* and didn't use a condom... which is the only evidence of another person there and she (MAS) has proof of it.

Another way this plays out too is that MAS, TS and Jaren were engaged in a 3some and this other person arrives *that the perps knew about* and Jaren wasn't down with this... she wanted to leave and felt MAS lied to her, or really any variation of this. I can see how this "fight" went down about a dozen different ways, only because I have been an escort and I have been lied to and things got super scary. I mean .. scary *people jumping out of the shower to beat me etc, as I was set up by a female who was supposed to be working with me but she wanted my money*.

I do think MAS had way more to do with this then it's being led on about, and I think that way based on some experiences I've encountered. I know how bad things can turn and how quickly in a blink of an eye. If you add in drugs, addictions and money.. .well, you have a homicide waiting to happen. 3's a crowd but 4 is too many. I really think there's a 4th person and that is a male who is alluded to in the email regarding the panties. I don't think they would discuss Jaren's panties because she was disposed of and those panties were too. MAS is the one who didn't dispose of her bottoms and probably didn't think anything about the DNA in them either.

I have went to the other sinister side of this and wondered if Jaren was hired only for the purpose of murder, among other things.

Why would MAS and Jaren fight?
Jaren was promised X amount of money and was either shorted or not paid at all.

Jaren was told it was going to be MAS and TS but another person arrived and did things Jaren wasn't into, and maybe she asked to leave but MAS and TS were personally invested and wanted whatever it was they were promised to be received. MAS was chosen to go get Jaren and make her comply. MAS brought a knife to threaten her when words weren't enough, they got into a tussle and MAS stabbed her once through the heart.

*If they were doing blow (cocaine), Jaren would bleed out much faster because of her heart rate and blood pressure.

It was an argument because not everything was what it was supposed to be. Maybe the amount of people changed, maybe it was a 3 some and then another person showed up to "party". TS probably told this other person he could have Jaren if he paid TS. TS was paid and MAS told Jaren she would join her but Jaren was having none of it and then they got into it.

Either way we are talking about two people who were homeless addicts (MAS, TS). They had to live hand to mouth, con games are absolutely part of this - as well as sex being a way to get money and drugs.

On a sidenote: MAS looks like she's put on some weight and doesn't look so strung out, so she's either gotten somewhat clean or she's been able to feed herself lately. She totally looked like a heroin addict when they first were arrested, and that is one hell of an expensive habit because you can't just stop - it's the worst detox ever.

Sorry for the ramble but this is the case that brought me here and sadly a friend of mine went missing around the same time *same summer* and has never been found. Her husband coped to murdering her over oxy's and she's never been found. She was also a dancer. I've lost so many friends and associates to this lifestyle, more are strippers than escorts - believe it or not.
 
Not to derail this thread but to give some insight to the strip club hustle of a door-guy (not all but literally most):

Bouncers and door guys encounter an entire shift of strangers or bar patrons. Often times these patrons will flash around money, tip the door guys or bouncers to set them up with ladies that would be "fun" (and they give an outline of what their fun is exactly). Bouncers, mngmt and door guys all arrange these things. Everywhere.

*currently I'm on tour with the one of the largest strip-club franchises in the US. Our club absolutely does this and even has a "limo service" to allow the girls to be on shift yet leave with customers, as long as they take the limo. Every night I'm approached at least twice by mgmnt or floor hosts and ushered to a table for customers I've been selected for. I never have left with a customer and don't do shady stuff but they almost always are hoping I will/do - and they push me away once they understand I'm there to make money, not leave with them for a sum of money.

It is highly probably that TS knew this hustle and employed it to make side cash. Your avg door guy makes min wage plus tips, and boy do they depend on tips. They also are the guys the girls get to know a bit better and trust because these are the men who usually walk us to our taxi or car, load our gear up and that we tip for doing so. We feel "safe" with them in this unspoken type code. Jaren likely knew TS, at least through word of mouth that night and decided that MAS couldn't be all that bad if she was with TS. And if Jaren knew TS - maybe he hooked her up with a good paying patron before or something to that effect.

TS probably (most likely) knew a guy or guys that wanted a dancer or woman for the night, and TS / MAS worked as the middle man. This means he gets a cut of the pay for delivering, however I could totally see Jaren being left out of this tid bit of information and thinking it was just a 3-way with mas, ts with drugs ... and then getting there and the game is shifted or switched up.

I think in the email to MAS about panties and fluids was more or less directed towards MAS about her own behavior that night and that was TS's way of calling her "loose" and placing this paying customer at the scene. Does that make sense? MAS slept with both Ts and another guy *probably the one Jaren was hired for* and didn't use a condom... which is the only evidence of another person there and she (MAS) has proof of it.

Another way this plays out too is that MAS, TS and Jaren were engaged in a 3some and this other person arrives *that the perps knew about* and Jaren wasn't down with this... she wanted to leave and felt MAS lied to her, or really any variation of this. I can see how this "fight" went down about a dozen different ways, only because I have been an escort and I have been lied to and things got super scary. I mean .. scary *people jumping out of the shower to beat me etc, as I was set up by a female who was supposed to be working with me but she wanted my money*.

I do think MAS had way more to do with this then it's being led on about, and I think that way based on some experiences I've encountered. I know how bad things can turn and how quickly in a blink of an eye. If you add in drugs, addictions and money.. .well, you have a homicide waiting to happen. 3's a crowd but 4 is too many. I really think there's a 4th person and that is a male who is alluded to in the email regarding the panties. I don't think they would discuss Jaren's panties because she was disposed of and those panties were too. MAS is the one who didn't dispose of her bottoms and probably didn't think anything about the DNA in them either.

I have went to the other sinister side of this and wondered if Jaren was hired only for the purpose of murder, among other things.

Why would MAS and Jaren fight?
Jaren was promised X amount of money and was either shorted or not paid at all.

Jaren was told it was going to be MAS and TS but another person arrived and did things Jaren wasn't into, and maybe she asked to leave but MAS and TS were personally invested and wanted whatever it was they were promised to be received. MAS was chosen to go get Jaren and make her comply. MAS brought a knife to threaten her when words weren't enough, they got into a tussle and MAS stabbed her once through the heart.

*If they were doing blow (cocaine), Jaren would bleed out much faster because of her heart rate and blood pressure.

It was an argument because not everything was what it was supposed to be. Maybe the amount of people changed, maybe it was a 3 some and then another person showed up to "party". TS probably told this other person he could have Jaren if he paid TS. TS was paid and MAS told Jaren she would join her but Jaren was having none of it and then they got into it.

Either way we are talking about two people who were homeless addicts (MAS, TS). They had to live hand to mouth, con games are absolutely part of this - as well as sex being a way to get money and drugs.

On a sidenote: MAS looks like she's put on some weight and doesn't look so strung out, so she's either gotten somewhat clean or she's been able to feed herself lately. She totally looked like a heroin addict when they first were arrested, and that is one hell of an expensive habit because you can't just stop - it's the worst detox ever.

Sorry for the ramble but this is the case that brought me here and sadly a friend of mine went missing around the same time *same summer* and has never been found. Her husband coped to murdering her over oxy's and she's never been found. She was also a dancer. I've lost so many friends and associates to this lifestyle, more are strippers than escorts - believe it or not.

Much respect to you, AstroK. Please be safe.
 
Either way we are talking about two people who were homeless addicts (MAS, TS). They had to live hand to mouth, con games are absolutely part of this - as well as sex being a way to get money and drugs.
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I have to disagree. MAS was not homeless.
 
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