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Michaela (Mickey) Shunick
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Brought over from the previous thread

Did they ever gain the information concerning whom owned this truck?
Its similar to the one they were interested in in the Laura spierer case in blooming-ton Indiana a year ago. I did notice this case and Laura and
Brittney wood case were connected by an interstate system I65 I believe it is. If Someone has photos of the three girls could you put them side by side please so we can look at them. Thank you in advance. Not implying there is a connection, just thinking way outside the box for the time being. Its all just speculation and guessing on my part. But wanted to post anyways.


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BunnyHop, I honor your opinion, but respectfully disagree.
MS's mom said that she would give up her cars, etc. for her daughter.
That speaks volumes.
Every forum has someone questioning where the donation money is going.
My question is, "where are the innocent victims going"? "Damn the money, it can be replaced"..

All I'm saying is that different angles need to be looked at.
I make no judgement whatsoever about the donations.
 
I realized yesterday that I had assumed MS & BW went to Taco Bell on Johnston & St. Mary by campus but they did not.
Anyone sitting or standing on Congress St near St Antoine could have seen them bike back to Ryan St, leave in the car for TB on Congress, return and see Mickey leave alone on her bike.

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I thought this as well. Hey isnt the one by Campus closer? Why go all the way down to Congress? Am I wrong?

LA
 
I am curious why people are suddenly wondering if she took off on her own. I do not understand how that would have worked. She was out at 2 am, with no money, all alone.
How exactly did she run off? And who drove her to Whisky Bay to dump off her beloved bicycle?

And she planned this, why?
 
We've been through the possible connections between some of the missing women over and over again...

Not saying people shouldn't bring it up again if they have a valid point to make, but so far, there is nothing to suggest that any of the cases are connected, IMO.

Lauren-out with males friends all night, likely intoxicated, and they all got lawyers at once
Holly-left her yard in the company of a man who she spoke with for 10-15 first, early in the morning, witnessed by her brother, did not seem to be fighting him
Katelyn-likely lured from her home after midnight, most likely by someone she knew, or why else would she leave her apartment, not take her keys, phone, etc...
Brittney W.- Seems to be a lot going on down there in this case...uncle's suicide, rumors she may be out there somewhere...etc...
Paige-Was last in the company of a man who is currently in jail and refusing to talk about her


Not sure who else is being suggested...but one thing I do feel fairly sure of is that Mickey was taken, or left with, someone local to Lafayette or a nearby area (rather than the roaming SK or an out-out-town fair worker) due to the locale of her bike. That says local more than anything to me.

JMO
 
I am curious why people are suddenly wondering if she took off on her own. I do not understand how that would have worked. She was out at 2 am, with no money, all alone.
How exactly did she run off? And who drove her to Whisky Bay to dump off her beloved bicycle?

And she planned this, why?

I think you are correct.
While I respect the opinions of all my fellow sleuthers, I wholeheartedly disagree that it's a viable scenario to consider regarding her voluntarily leaving. There is unequivocally no piece of evidence that supports that theory: Rather, there is a slew of facts stating the precise opposite. MOO and all that.
 
I am 99.999999% sure that she didn't leave on her own. One of my biggest reasons for feeling this way is she is one semester short of completing her BA Anthropology and had just successfully passed exams and the spring semester, her second to last semester of college. Maybe someone would leave if they failed the semester or prior to/during exams, but no student sticks out the semester and passes exams just to runaway a week later. It would make sense to run away before or during exams, not after, and not with one semester left.

On a side note, I have been trying to ignore the discussion of accounting for the donations made to find Mickey. However, I feel like there is one reason why people may question where donations are going - and that one reason is Cindy & Geogre Anthony (or is that two reasons?). Let's remember that the Shunicks sure ain't the Anthonys, folks.
 
Do we know what Mickey did that day? Before Artmosphere? If someone was following her, it's possible they watched her throughout the afternoon, Artmosphere, taco bell, brettlys, then from brettlys to a dark street. Many victims were watched before they were taken. DTL watched his victims to learn their schedules etc. someone knew her route. It's too clean of disappearance to be spur if the moment.
 
Do we know what Mickey did that day? Before Artmosphere? If someone was following her, it's possible they watched her throughout the afternoon, Artmosphere, taco bell, brettlys, then from brettlys to a dark street. Many victims were watched before they were taken. DTL watched his victims to learn their schedules etc. someone knew her route. It's too clean of disappearance to be spur if the moment.

I wish we knew this in many cases, Holly's being one in particular. I think Holly was almost certainly stalked from her school or someplace else, to her home. But we do not have so much as a clue as to what she did even the night before, after 14 months.
 
We've been through the possible connections between some of the missing women over and over again...

Not saying people shouldn't bring it up again if they have a valid point to make, but so far, there is nothing to suggest that any of the cases are connected, IMO.

Lauren-out with males friends all night, likely intoxicated, and they all got lawyers at once
Holly-left her yard in the company of a man who she spoke with for 10-15 first, early in the morning, witnessed by her brother, did not seem to be fighting him
Katelyn-likely lured from her home after midnight, most likely by someone she knew, or why else would she leave her apartment, not take her keys, phone, etc...
Brittney W.- Seems to be a lot going on down there in this case...uncle's suicide, rumors she may be out there somewhere...etc...
Paige-Was last in the company of a man who is currently in jail and refusing to talk about her


Not sure who else is being suggested...but one thing I do feel fairly sure of is that Mickey was taken, or left with, someone local to Lafayette or a nearby area (rather than the roaming SK or an out-out-town fair worker) due to the locale of her bike. That says local more than anything to me.

JMO

Many serial killers are aware of linkage blindness and will discard items of evidence across LE jurisdictional boundaries. Their purpose is hoping the different LEAs will not communicate with each other.
It would not be unusual for a predator/sk, to discard evidence or other personal items, including the victim's remains, miles away from the crime scene. In fact, it is expected of a professional predator.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&output....,cf.osb&fp=6277787dfd866530&biw=1024&bih=673

Steven Egger, Serial Murder Expert

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Jan 15, 2007 &#8211; Dr. Steven A. Egger is a criminal justice expert and renowned specialist on the ... He coined the terms &#8220;less-dead&#8221; and &#8220;linkage blindness&#8221;
 
- and that one reason is Cindy & Geogre Anthony (or is that two reasons?). Let's remember that the Shunicks sure ain't the Anthonys, folks.[/QUOTE]

I agree!

LA
 
We've been through the possible connections between some of the missing women over and over again...

Not saying people shouldn't bring it up again if they have a valid point to make, but so far, there is nothing to suggest that any of the cases are connected, IMO.

Lauren-out with males friends all night, likely intoxicated, and they all got lawyers at once
Holly-left her yard in the company of a man who she spoke with for 10-15 first, early in the morning, witnessed by her brother, did not seem to be fighting him
Katelyn-likely lured from her home after midnight, most likely by someone she knew, or why else would she leave her apartment, not take her keys, phone, etc...
Brittney W.- Seems to be a lot going on down there in this case...uncle's suicide, rumors she may be out there somewhere...etc...
Paige-Was last in the company of a man who is currently in jail and refusing to talk about her


Not sure who else is being suggested...but one thing I do feel fairly sure of is that Mickey was taken, or left with, someone local to Lafayette or a nearby area (rather than the roaming SK or an out-out-town fair worker) due to the locale of her bike. That says local more than anything to me.

JMO

I don't think these cases are connected. I (like other WSers) have my own suspicions about who is involved in Lauren, Brittney Wood, and Paige's cases. Not sure about Holly's- don't know enough about it. But if she talked to the abductor for 10-15 min before she went missing and the guy looked to her brother like a cousin, that stands out to me as being someone she knew.

I would say if any of them are connected (which again, I don't think they are) it would be the cases of Katelynn, Brittanee Drexel, Mickey, and Morgan Harrington. Brittanee, Mickey, and Morgan had all separated from friends and were leaving/heading somewhere alone on foot (and on bike, in Mickey's case) in the evening or at night (and granted, each case has it's own strange things going on, like Morgan's weird & probably drug-induced behavior that night). Katelynn's case is so strange because there's even less to go on there than with Mickey. And we know Morgan's attacker had sexually assaulted someone years earlier but had never been IDed. I think there was a POI or someone close to being a POI in B. Drexel's case as far as her cell phone pings ending somewhere along a route to where he rented a cheap hotel room or something.

So now I've talked myself out of it and don't think any of them are related, really.

Seems more likely the two endangered runaways who went missing in Lafayette in the months leading up to Mickey's disappearance would be more likely to be connected to Mickey's case than anything else.
 
Brought over from the previous thread
Quoting my post for :+:MrTT:+:
Did they ever gain the information concerning whom owned this truck?
Its similar to the one they were interested in in the Laura spierer case in blooming-ton Indiana a year ago. I did notice this case and Laura and
Brittney wood case were connected by an interstate system I65 I believe it is. If Someone has photos of the three girls could you put them side by side please so we can look at them. Thank you in advance. Not implying there is a connection, just thinking way outside the box for the time being. Its all just speculation and guessing on my part. But wanted to post anyways.


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The truck is still a mystery, but there doesn't seem to be any connection to Lauren Spierer's case because, as you know, the driver of that truck was cleared. I don't have photos of the three at hand. If no one else posts them, I can do so later.

I'm glad you posted here. This case could use fresh eyes.
 
Mickeys' family are free to hire any PI they choose. If they are satisfied with their choice, then I can understand them being miffed at being portrayed as clueless and incompetent to make the decision on who to hire. As for "donors" hiring their own PI.....donors to what? The reward? Do we now have tips going to LE, the PI hired by the family and the PI hired by "donors"? :twocents:

Another person hired the PI for Mickey's family, and that was wonderful. At the same time, ACI also began investigating, on his own, WITHOUT COMPENSATION, because he's a good guy, because he's qualified, and because he CARES. If you had a loved one missing, would you not give your right arm to have as many qualified people as possible trying to find them? Maybe not - which I can't wrap my brain around. ACI deserves gratitude for his kindness and generosity. I am so glad that someone took notice and decided to help fund his efforts (just recently). Were that my kid missing, I would be BEGGING for all the help I could get. It blows my mind to see any discussion to the contrary.

My ex was a PI. He did lots of work for the Adam Walsh Foundation and another organization for missing persons, in Los Angeles, and he did it for free. Never once did anyone complain about the extra attention being given their missing loved one. Additionally, my ex also located some of the missing.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter what anyone's opinion is on this. ACI is working for MICKEY and I have no doubt she would want his help in finding her.
 
Remember, posters get 20 #tags we can add - I just used my full allotment bringing stuff over from the old thread so if you see stuff to add, please do so.
 
I don't think these cases are connected. I (like other WSers) have my own suspicions about who is involved in Lauren, Brittney Wood, and Paige's cases. Not sure about Holly's- don't know enough about it. But if she talked to the abductor for 10-15 min before she went missing and the guy looked to her brother like a cousin, that stands out to me as being someone she knew.

I would say if any of them are connected (which again, I don't think they are) it would be the cases of Katelynn, Brittanee Drexel, Mickey, and Morgan Harrington. Brittanee, Mickey, and Morgan had all separated from friends and were leaving/heading somewhere alone on foot (and on bike, in Mickey's case) in the evening or at night (and granted, each case has it's own strange things going on, like Morgan's weird & probably drug-induced behavior that night). Katelynn's case is so strange because there's even less to go on there than with Mickey. And we know Morgan's attacker had sexually assaulted someone years earlier but had never been IDed. I think there was a POI or someone close to being a POI in B. Drexel's case as far as her cell phone pings ending somewhere along a route to where he rented a cheap hotel room or something.

So now I've talked myself out of it and don't think any of them are related, really.

Seems more likely the two endangered runaways who went missing in Lafayette in the months leading up to Mickey's disappearance would be more likely to be connected to Mickey's case than anything else.

It would surprise me if any two of these innocent victims, were by any one sexual predator. Imo, virtually all were the victims of sexual predators. Just different ones. It is a mystery as to none of them being located. Holly Bobo, Lauren Spierer, and Britanee Drexel, and a few more have been searched for by LE, the community, as well as professional search organizations without a clue of their locations.
 
Many serial killers are aware of linkage blindness and will discard items of evidence across LE jurisdictional boundaries. Their purpose is hoping the different LEAs will not communicate with each other.
It would not be unusual for a predator/sk, to discard evidence or other personal items, including the victim's remains, miles away from the crime scene. In fact, it is expected of a professional predator.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&output....,cf.osb&fp=6277787dfd866530&biw=1024&bih=673

Steven Egger, Serial Murder Expert

ebbtideofferings.com/Egger%20files/Egger/index.htm


Jan 15, 2007 – Dr. Steven A. Egger is a criminal justice expert and renowned specialist on the ... He coined the terms “less-dead” and “linkage blindness”


I just don't think a passing stranger would know where the bodies of other victims had been found in the past...I know all about that particular case yet had never heard of Whiskey Bay until this case came up.
 
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