LA - Mickey Shunick, 21, Lafayette 19 May 2012 - #31

Discussion in 'Mickey Shunick General Discussion Threads' started by bessie, Jun 25, 2012.

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  1. reedus23

    reedus23 Well-Known Member

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    And the fact that, IMO, it is highly unlikely Mickey would have circled all the way around and backtracked. I understand how that is what would make the physics of it work but again, there we start creating facts to fit a theory instead of finding the theory that fits the facts. JMO
     


  2. reedus23

    reedus23 Well-Known Member

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    Has LE ever given us the sequencing of the photos or is that something that was sluethed here?
     
  3. reedus23

    reedus23 Well-Known Member

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    So well put I had to bump it (if that's the right terminology).
     
  4. dejavoodoo64

    dejavoodoo64 New Member

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    Very true. I believe she was moving also.

    *Waves big to fellow Alabamian/Alabamette*
     
  5. fairest of them all

    fairest of them all New Member

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    Well I have a little theory......all just speculation but I think it is completely possible someone could have approached her with something like " hey miss can I use your phone?" "Hey miss do you have a cigarette I could have?" Or asking for directions or have you seen my dog? .......speculation only.......so I imagine she stops to offer assistance or be nice lets him use her phone and he walks off with it or he snatches her whole purse and runs ....
    All speculation only......its completely possible that the perp ran in the direction from which she had just came......she could have chased on her bike and dropped it in the toad where it could have ended up run over by truck while she wasn't on it.....like dropped her bike there to chase after someone (that satisfies those who think the bike is under the truck).....pure speculation .....or she could have ridden her bike or chased someone on foot through the parking lot there (that satisfies the photo cropping conspiracy theorists-like me) ....all just speculation........or she could have chased on her bike or followed on foot somewhere else not on camera......perp simply went back and picked up bike or evidence left behind afterward.....also two perps on foot highly possible in my opinion I think it is quite possible that all they wanted from the get go was her bike.

    My personal preference as far as theories go is the perp on foot theory.....all speculation...but it answers any and all questions pretty much by all the different. "categories" of theorists I've seen so far. ......
    Like no personal belongings left behif
     
  6. zenithzuzu

    zenithzuzu New Member

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    There are many reasons I don't believe that Mickey is under the truck but I'll only discuss this one for now. I agree that it looks like the DWT is rolling over something but the more people try to zoom in and "clear it up," the less I see. I also find it impossible for anything to have happened right there. I frequent that particular Circle K often and it is MUCH closer than it appears in the camera still. Anyone parked or in line inside the store would have seen something not to mention those at the pump. Today in particular, I went in to that Circle K at 5pm which is a very busy and noisy time. As I walked out a car turning into the LCG parking lot EXACTLY into the opening visible on the camera stills, and brushed the curb and I heard it and looked up as did 2 people next to me. I find it very hard to believe she could have been hit right there without ANYONE seeing and coming forward. This isn't some high crime street code ruled area. Someone would have said something. That's my opinion based on my experience with that exactly area on almost a daily basis.
     
  7. fairest of them all

    fairest of them all New Member

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    I'm getting aggravated with my phone!

    Anyway, no evidence left behind. No screams heard or collision witnessed.(that's the kind of thing that makes dogs bark like crazy!) Moo but perp on foot theory accounts for a lot of things such as lack of evidence. Moo
     
  8. Pensfan

    Pensfan Former Member

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    LOL I see a big jack-o-lantern under the red circle and it has a triangle nose. (I'm kind of worried about what this says about my mental and emotional maturity. :D)
     
  9. reedus23

    reedus23 Well-Known Member

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    Agreed wholeheartedly.
     
  10. reedus23

    reedus23 Well-Known Member

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    Don't get me wrong, I do believe the family when they say it was Mickey. My only point was we can't dismiss facts just because they don't fit our theory. I only wish I knew where we go. With so little information to go on, its difficult to say.
     
  11. Pensfan

    Pensfan Former Member

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    Perp on foot (out of his car) or in his vehicle
    that knew Mickey and where she lived (why he dumped the bike far from Lafayette),
    waited for her to enter her dark neighborhood (away from videocameras/traffic/witnesses)
    makes sense too.
     
  12. CajunRagin

    CajunRagin New Member

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    I wish we at least knew what we are dealing with too. Should us local girls be scared for our lives? Or do we not have any reason to be scared? I just really wish we knew more
     
  13. paddleallday

    paddleallday New Member

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    A vehicle breaking is still a moving vehicle. So yes, there may have been some forward movement. The truck is stronger than the bike so if a back wheel is hit and trapped under a bumper or tire of a truck, the bike is going to stop when the truck does. That's what breaks do: defy physics with force.

    "When the front of the car dipped under braking application before impact, the rider was projected ahead of the car and came to rest further from the point of impact than the car did. When the car was not braking at impact, and when the rider is astride the cycle as though riding and not standing, the cyclist is thrown off the side of the car after being ramped back onto the windshield. "

    "Ride time for the cyclist on the car was not discussed in any other cited treatments of this subject. Based on the findings from these nine test runs, the ride time for the cyclist struck in this manner* at velocities between 15 and 30 mph (24 and 48 km/h) is, on the average, 1.3 seconds."

    *"this manner" meaning cyclist headed in same direction as vehicle and breaking applied DURING impact. The statement below is when breaking is applied BEFORE impact.

    "On run number two, where the brakes were applied before impact and the dummy had to travel both back and forth across the hood, the ride time was a high of 1.5 seconds. The majority of the ride times were 1.4 seconds in duration although some were as short as 1 .l seconds."


    "D2. The “ride time”as used in this narrative is that period of time starting when the bumper of the striking vehicle impacts the tire of the bicycle and ending when the cyclist body strikes the ground."

    This all happens really fast. The vehicle hits the bike and throws the rider and the rider has landed all in less than 1.5 seconds. The lights on mickeys bike tires are rubber. They slide through the spokes. They're easy to get on, not necessarily "easy" to get off. They don't shatter like plastic. Maybe impact was a little ahead of the truck where the misc/ unknown object seems to rest in the road, since studies show that loose object are usually found at area of impact, and the truck backed up.

    If this camera is in fact like the traffic cameras this may very well be the only picture they have of the truck. Watch the cameras. One shot the vehicles are right there, the next frame, theyre 50+yards away. Thats a laps of WAY longer than 1.5 seconds. (when flooring it the Chevy Z71 goes 0-60 in 7.5 seconds) The driver may have thrown Mickey, bike,and belongings into the truck with the intention and/or promise of the quickest route to a hospital. They took the bike so it wouldn't be stolen. Somewhere along the way, the hospital went out of the window for narrsacistic self preservation.

    If the camera is real time, then I wonder why they messed with the photo so much.

    This of course is my own opinion. I am not a bicycle accident expert. I have read SO much on bicycle accident studies over the last six weeks it would make one sick. This study that I've quoted here is the most concise in terms of being consistent with the way Mickey would have hit. From behind. Maybe bike in motion, maybe not. It's really worth reading. The damage to the bike in the study is a bent rear wheel. There are photos in the study.

    Just in case y'all missed it:

    http://www.collisionsafety.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Bike-crash-trajectory-SAE-900368.pdf
     
  14. cluciano63

    cluciano63 Well-Known Member

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    I haven't seen or heard anything that makes me think Mickey was a specific victim, personally. I think it was random and I would be sure not to be alone, especially after dark. But I would always be sure of that anyway...JMO
     
  15. K.jill

    K.jill Atlanta, GA

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    I think your theory is a good one. Someone could have approached her and grabbed her backpack and she chased them. Another possibility is that she saw something happening, like someone being assaulted or mugged and she ran to help.
     
  16. mesbra

    mesbra New Member

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    Does it matter what the circumstances are? Nobody knows that right now, yes she had a breakdown recently around finals time that was 2 weeks ago. Her Dr felt she was ok enough to release her for out patient care. Her parents or friends have no idea where she is at and i'm assuming if this were your child no matter the circumstances you would be beside yourself. Yes let's all hope she is just needing time to her self. My concern is, that is a rough area and i'm praying she did not come across someone or something that will harm her.

    Sorry no dis-respect meant and i'm hoping that your comment got lost on me through text and you were not dismissing the situation.
     
  17. cluciano63

    cluciano63 Well-Known Member

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    I just was seeing people starting to link her to Mickey...that was my point...
     
  18. katydid23

    katydid23 Verified Juanette

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    I don't think Clu was dismissing the situation or being disrespectful. But in the Sacto case the young woman has apparently been spotted and has run away from anyone trying to help. She is distraught and in severe need of help, but it is, with all due respect, a different set of circumstances, and probably not connected to Mickey's case in any way. Jmo
     
  19. cluciano63

    cluciano63 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you, I think we share a brain sometimes...
     
  20. Mahouston69

    Mahouston69 Digital Imaging Specialist

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    respectfully snipped..

    I do in fact know the video is not continuous but exactly like the traffic cameras. That is what a representative of the planning commission told me. I posted her contact information here to corroborate that information and it was removed by moderators. I did not call and represent WS or my business.
    Mods: I apologize for posting that if it was against TOS.

    Ashley Says said. "It's her silhouette, her body type. You can see the lights on her spokes. I've looked at it really closely and when you look closely, you can even see that big blonde hair.

    She saw her silhouette, her body type and had to look at it closely to see her big blonde hair... but easily identified her. ok.

    That tells me they see exactly what we see... conclude that how you will.
     
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