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Maybe intv the ladies at the club to see if he hit it off with anyone....
Found Deceased LA - Nathan Millard, 42, GA resident on business trip in Baton Rouge, last seen leaving pub, phone found, debit card used, 23 Feb 2023
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I think it depends on the college and probably to a degree, what the local city is willing to put up with. Then again, as alcohol sales at pro games are deliberately engineered not to produce many drunks, problems at college games maybe few.
As a side note, in addition to different food and a unique culture, Louisiana also has.... uhmmm "unique" laws regarding "Take out 'n Geaux Drive" Hurricane and Margarita purchases at some bars.
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Up to $10,000 reward offered for information on missing Georgia man
Unfiltered with Kiran has pieced together new details into the missing Georgia man in Baton Rouge, including a visit to a gentleman's club
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This strikes me as a bit unusual:
The work client returned the car that Nathan rented? How did he have the keys to do so? Did a hotel employee find them in the room and hand them over to the client or give the client access to the room to get the keys? Or did Nathan plan to disappear on purpose and ask the client to return his rental car? If I were the client and my business associate vanished like this, I can't say that my first thought would be returning his rental car for him on my way out of town. What if there's evidence in that car relating to his disappearance? Or what if he turns up the next day with the world's worst hangover and no way to get back to the airport?
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Huh, that's very weird. I'm assuming the client didn't rent a car as he wouldn't have been able to return both of them at the same time, so why did Nathan rent a car but not the client? Did they arrange in advance that only one of them would be renting a car?Up to $10,000 reward offered for information on missing Georgia man
Unfiltered with Kiran has pieced together new details into the missing Georgia man in Baton Rouge, including a visit to a gentleman's club
This strikes me as a bit unusual:
The work client returned the car that Nathan rented? How did he have the keys to do so? Did a hotel employee find them in the room and hand them over to the client or give the client access to the room to get the keys? Or did Nathan plan to disappear on purpose and ask the client to return his rental car? If I were the client and my business associate vanished like this, I can't say that my first thought would be returning his rental car for him on my way out of town. What if there's evidence in that car relating to his disappearance? Or what if he turns up the next day with the world's worst hangover and no way to get back to the airport?
What was the purpose of renting the car? We know they took an Uber/Lyft back to Happy's after going to the LSU game and visiting Penthouse, so where was the car? Did they drive to the game and leave it there? Or did they just Uber/Lyft that day?
I can't imagine the hotel would hand over the keys to a vehicle to someone not registered as a guest for Nathan's room. Did the client just walk up to the front desk and say 'I can't find Nathan but I have to fly out and I want the keys to his car so I can drop it off'? It sounds like the client filed a missing person's report with BRPD before he left the city, so did the police let him return the car?
I'm struggling to think of a scenario where the hotel or the police would have given the client (who is essentially a stranger to Nathan) the keys to Nathan's rental car.
ETA: Marriott, like most other hotel chains, requires people claiming lost items to provide some proof of ownership, like an ID or a baggage ticket. There was recently a court case involving Marriott where someone's luggage was stolen because employees didn't verify that the person claiming the property was the actual owner.
Marriott gives guest's luggage worth over $8K to alleged thief, only required to pay $500 in damages
Attorneys argue that a loophole in a California law allows hotels to avoid paying actual damages to guests.
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Right, it's very strange. It looks like the hotel is only about 8 miles from the BR airport anyway, so I'm surprised he even bothered renting a car if they were going to be drinking and therefore using ride shares. For such a short distance I would likely just Uber/Lyft if I knew most things were going to be in walking distance of my hotel or I was going to be drinking.
I also can't imagine the police handing over the keys to the rental car to anyone else. The client wouldn't have been on the rental agreement and shouldn't have been driving it, if nothing else.
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The client was the first one to quickly check about Nathan in the morning but he is already out of Baton Rouge? What to think about that? No more concerns about him? Not helping finding Nathan? Something is wrong here.
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This is one of the strangest stories. Either that client knows more or this is a case of trying to cover up the maybe not so family friendly behavior of the night so details were inaccurate? Did Nathan end up accidentally in water after a night of adventure? It’s all strange.
Thinking that both of you could be on the right path. Perhaps:
- Apparent Victim and client attend the game. Victim, even if he tried, was not going to be able to consume enough beer there to get on the road to severely intoxicated (engineered smaller sized cups, expensive, long lines, etc).
- Feeling good, however, the two men decide to head over to a relatively nearby "Gentleman's Club". The club may have individual performers who cross the line into full prostitution- or provide off campus and fully private entertainment sans sex. Maybe one these girls approaches the victim. Perhaps arrangements were made.
- The men return to Happy. The victim then leaves Happy to make the "special contact" that was arranged at the Gentleman's Club. Maybe he intends to meet the girl outside the hotel, then escort her in. Something awful happens.
- The next day, the client determines that M is missing. He knows that M has a family and is thus hesitant to relay @insearchoflight the "not so family friendly" details of the night's activities.
- The Client then omits the jaunt to the Gentleman's Club when talking to the police. He also omits any possible "special arrangements" being made there. Rather, he gives a vague story about M being cut off and returning to the hotel.
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At the same time, is it usual for a stranger - the client - to go to the police at 9:00 (also saw 10:00 elsewhere) because Nathan was not at the meeting at 8:00? So quickly? To ask for a welfare check so fast that morning, after only one hour?? To declare Nathan missing for being late so little time for the meeting? IMO something doesn't add up.
I'm wondering if Nathan mentioned plans to his coworker to go back to Penthouse alone after Happy's. Or mentioned plans to meet up with a Penthouse worker later that evening elsewhere (if he'd gotten contact info from a dancer during their earlier visit). That could explain the client's willingness to let Nathan leave Happy's without him and the client's immediate jump to "welfare check" Nathan's hotel room and report him missing to LE when Nathan didn't show in the morning.
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I don’t find the client suspicious or odd, MOO.
I think it is possible a welfare check was requested because the client figured or knew Nathan to be responsible or a long time or high ranking employee that would not screw up a meeting vital to his employment. Perhaps the client was worried he may have choked on his vomit or had alcohol poisoning.
In my own experiences in hotels and other businesses, staff may not consider or follow all policies to a T. I can imagine staff thinking they are helping someone by allowing the client to take the keys or not even being fully aware of the relationship between the client & Nathan. Or maybe the client grabbed the keys without mentioning it.
I figure the client had to return to work, and possibly his own family. He would possibly have to use his own time off work and money to stay around longer. He may not be in a position to do so. I hope that he did give all info he had, honestly. But, I don’t fault him for leaving town.
I think it is possible a welfare check was requested because the client figured or knew Nathan to be responsible or a long time or high ranking employee that would not screw up a meeting vital to his employment. Perhaps the client was worried he may have choked on his vomit or had alcohol poisoning.
In my own experiences in hotels and other businesses, staff may not consider or follow all policies to a T. I can imagine staff thinking they are helping someone by allowing the client to take the keys or not even being fully aware of the relationship between the client & Nathan. Or maybe the client grabbed the keys without mentioning it.
I figure the client had to return to work, and possibly his own family. He would possibly have to use his own time off work and money to stay around longer. He may not be in a position to do so. I hope that he did give all info he had, honestly. But, I don’t fault him for leaving town.
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That would also explain why he was hitting up ATMs between 1 and 2 am, if he needed more cash to meet up with one of the dancers who was willing to do some freelancing.
At this point, I, like many others, do wonder if N was trying to meet up with someone from the gentlemen's club. However, given the info we have, I think that he was also extremely intoxicated and misplaced his own wallet and phone. So I'm sitting on the fence between foul play and accident right now.
I think this is very plausible.
An exotic dancer offering "off campus" entertainment ranging from full prostitution to "private shows in the comfort of your hotel room" would probably want / need to finish her shift (additional tips / avoid problems with management) before going independent.
The missing man left Happy at 11:00. That would leave probably at least 1-2 hours before the possible contact dancer got off shift and able to go independent. Thus it makes sense that M might consider returning to the club to wait there.
As a side note, the lead bar tender at a bar that I frequent was a former entertainer manager at a strip joint. In response to a past question I asked her about a Web Sleuths case, she related that her former chain club employer and other higher end clubs do not tolerate dancers using the club as "home base" for independent contracting of any kind- period.
Independent contracting just brings trouble to the Club in the way of pimps, stiffed contacting customers, and even more infatuated admirers who are now clearly desperate etc. But... she also related that anything goes at smaller strip joints and non chain clubs. The club in question does not look to be chain.
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Nice to see more searches planned.
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And seeking an ATM machine to pay for entertainment ...
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