LA LA - Rapides Parish, WhtFem Skeletal 65UFLA, 15-19, w/ dog bones, Nov'80

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  1. anthrobones

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    http://doenetwork.org/cases/65ufla.html

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    Unidentified White Female Located on November 5, 1980 in Rapides Parish, Louisiana.
    <LI>Estimated Date of death is 6 months to 2 and 1/2 years prior to discovery.



    Vital Statistics





    • Estimated age: 16 - 19 years old
    • Approximate Height and Weight: 5'0 - 5'5"
    • Distinguishing Characteristics: Shoulder-length brown hair. Unfused metopic suture.
    • Dentals: Available. She had some fillings.
    • Clothing: There was no clothing found.
     
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  3. chaddylex

    chaddylex Verified Insider

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    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/65ufla.html

    Unidentified White Female

    Located on November 5, 1980 in Rapides Parish, Louisiana.
    Estimated Date of Death: 6 months - 2.1/2 years prior to discovery.
    Partial Skeletal Remains


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    Vital Statistics


    Estimated age: 15-19 years old
    Approximate Height and Weight: 5'0-5'5"
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Shoulder-length brown hair.
    Skeletal Findings: Unfused metopic suture. The metopic suture in the
    skull is a fibrous joint, cranial suture between adjacent developing bones of the
    skull. This suture begins at nose and runs superiorly to meet sagittal suture
    and fuses in early childhood before all other cranial sutures.
    Clothing: There was no clothing found.
    Fingerprints: Not Available.
    Dentals: Available. 3rd molars are impacted.
    Amalgam fillings noted on teeth #3(O), 14(O), 19(OB) and 30(OB).
    DNA: Pending


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    Case History


    The victim was located November 5, 1980 in Rapides Parish, Louisiana.
    Authorities were called out to skeletal remains found off Nichols Cemetery Road, which is about a quarter of a mile off La. Highway 28 West near Gardner.
    A hunter found the remains, which turned out to belong to a woman and a dog. Investigators found who had shot the dog but did not know if the dog belonged to the victim or was feeding off her body.
    There was not enough skeletal remains to help in identifying the body, which had been dumped out at least six months prior to their discovery. All they found at the scene was a pair of wool socks and a wad of hair.
    Police have never established her cause of death.
    Authorities even interviewed convicted killer Henry Lee Lucas, who claimed to have killed a number of people in the state. Authorities said Lucas was not connected to this case.
    Police have never established her cause of death.

    In 2007 authorities interviewed Robert Charles Browne about this case. Browne, a Colorado Springs convicted killer, has claimed to have killed as many as 49 people. Browne already has claimed to have killed a woman in Clarence, which is in Natchitoches Parish, and dumped the body of a 15-year-old girl in Winn Parish.


    Do you think this could be Kimberly Rae Doss - missing from Florida?

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/doss_kimberly_rae.html

    Age - height - hair color and time of disappearance is close...What do you all think? Should I submit?
     
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    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/65ufla.html


    Case originally posted by: chaddylex, was merged with another case by mistake

    Unidentified White Female

    Located on November 5, 1980 in Rapides Parish, Louisiana.
    Estimated Date of Death: 6 months - 2.1/2 years prior to discovery.
    Partial Skeletal Remains


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    Vital Statistics


    Estimated age: 15-19 years old
    Approximate Height and Weight: 5'0-5'5"
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Shoulder-length brown hair.
    Skeletal Findings: Unfused metopic suture. The metopic suture in the
    skull is a fibrous joint, cranial suture between adjacent developing bones of the
    skull. This suture begins at nose and runs superiorly to meet sagittal suture
    and fuses in early childhood before all other cranial sutures.
    Clothing: There was no clothing found.
    Fingerprints: Not Available.
    Dentals: Available. 3rd molars are impacted.
    Amalgam fillings noted on teeth #3(O), 14(O), 19(OB) and 30(OB).
    DNA: Pending


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    Case History


    The victim was located November 5, 1980 in Rapides Parish, Louisiana.
    Authorities were called out to skeletal remains found off Nichols Cemetery Road, which is about a quarter of a mile off La. Highway 28 West near Gardner.
    A hunter found the remains, which turned out to belong to a woman and a dog. Investigators found who had shot the dog but did not know if the dog belonged to the victim or was feeding off her body.
    There was not enough skeletal remains to help in identifying the body, which had been dumped out at least six months prior to their discovery. All they found at the scene was a pair of wool socks and a wad of hair.
    Police have never established her cause of death.
    Authorities even interviewed convicted killer Henry Lee Lucas, who claimed to have killed a number of people in the state. Authorities said Lucas was not connected to this case.
    Police have never established her cause of death.

    In 2007 authorities interviewed Robert Charles Browne about this case. Browne, a Colorado Springs convicted killer, has claimed to have killed as many as 49 people. Browne already has claimed to have killed a woman in Clarence, which is in Natchitoches Parish, and dumped the body of a 15-year-old girl in Winn Parish.


    Do you think this could be Kimberly Rae Doss - missing from Florida?

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...berly_rae.html

    Age - height - hair color and time of disappearance is close...What do you all think? Should I submit?
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  5. eeyorelrn

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    They look very similar to me. Have you submitted this possible match yet?
     
  6. chaddylex

    chaddylex Verified Insider

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    I was waiting to hear from other sleuthers to see their thoughts....I will submit if everyone thinks I should...
     
  7. Snufamonbobball

    Snufamonbobball But O for the touch of the vanished hand & the sou

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    IMHO, I think this could be a match. Good Work!!
     
  8. Cubby

    Cubby fly the W!

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    bump ..
     
  9. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Carla Rebecca Corley is not on the NamUs rule-out list for Rapides Parish Jane Doe. I'm a little surprised, as her name has come up quite often as a possible for other cases.

    Carla Rebecca Corley
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/corley_carla.html

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    NamUs UP Case 1879 https://identifyus.org/cases/1879
    DoeNet Case 65UFLA http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/65ufla.html


    The vital stats all tie-in well. The timeline is a little tight, but not too tight. The geography (Birmingham AL to Rapides Parish LA) is not unreasonable considering the circumstances.

    One thing that I find interesting is that Carla was epileptic. I am wondering if the condition that caused Jane Doe's metopic suture not to fuse in early childhood would be connected to epilepsy. I would think that if the skull is not developing normally, it could cause brain injuries, and consequently, epilepsy.
     
  10. chaddylex

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    Carl,

    Are you going to turn this one in? If you do, will you ask about Kim Doss to if you don't mind? She's not listed on the rule out list in Namus either. I forgot I even listed this one to begin with.

    Thanks for all you do and for the one who knows how to talk to LE about possible matches!!
     
  11. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    I've been focusing on Louisiana cases in recent days. I had a few on my tentative possibles list, and was hoping to discuss them all at once over the phone with Helen Bouzon, rather than submit them piecemeal. I had left her a telephone message, but she responded by e-mail to the Anjanette Piotrowski / 163UFLA submission.

    It appears that she prefers to deal with these submissions by e-mail, so I will do it that way. When I get through all of my Louisiana possibles, I will probably compile them into an e-mail and submit them at once.
     
  12. justthinkin

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    Anyone look closely at the UID's profile. She looks like she might be of mixed race, white, Afro-American.
     
  13. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    I just submitted Carla Corley and Kim Doss to Helen Bouzon of LSU, and received the following reply:

     
  14. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Helen Bouzon double-checked the status of Kimberly Rae Doss of Jacksonville FL (not to be confused with Kimberly Sue Doss of Davenport IA)

    So we can safely presume that Kimberly R. Doss is a CODIS rule-out by default (unless the very unlikely event of a CODIS false-negative).
     
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    I forgot about me starting this thread... I just wish one of us could give these UID a name and their identity back...
     
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    As a dog owner I'm just going to throw this opinion (not based on any scientific fact or academic finding) but thought that knowing my dogs sense of smell is much better then mine (I've owned my yorkie eight years in March) that it odd that the dog was shot near this womens bones. Wondering how thourough the background check on who shot the dog was. As someone who does background checks and work for a police dept. I know sometimes it is greatly lacking. My dog has put lots of things in her mouth including a dead rat she brought to me (lucky me) but I still can't imagine her eating a dead person. Maybe knowing more about this dog breed and history can shed light on this case.
     
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    Interesting. I did some research on the open metopic suture in adulthood. This is basically the opposite condition from what my daughter has where the skull sutures close early. What I've been able to find is that this occurs naturally in up to 10% of the population, according to some accounts (though that seems crazy high to me), while other accounts said it's about that common in people of European descent, but less so in other groups. It was rarer with Australians (odd since many are of European descent), and rarer still in Eskimo populations. Apparently it is usually accompanied by absent or underdeveloped sinuses.

    Nothing I read indicated that open metopic sutures and epilepsy were comorbid. There is a more elevated risk of epilepsy with the opposite condition, metopic synostosis. However, there does seem to be a correlation between epilepsy and the sinuses. So in that respect, it would make sense.
     
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    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2966dfde.html

    Tina Faye Kemp
    Missing since February 3, 1979 from Felton, Kent County, Delaware
    Classification: Endangered Missing

    Vital Statistics

    Date Of Birth: October 20, 1964
    Age at Time of Disappearance: 14 years old
    Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'0-5'1"; 95-100 lbs.
    Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Collar length dark brown hair; blue eyes. Fair complexion with some freckles. Medium build.
    Marks, Scars: 1/2" mole on right triceps.
    Clothing: White sweater, red and white flannel shirt, new blue jeans and boys Red and white sneakers.
    Jewelry: Gold band with white rhinestones. Leather strap with "ERIC" on left arm.

    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Tina Kemp lived with her family 1/2 mile south of Felton, DE, a rural, agricultural area of Delaware.

    On Saturday February 3, 1979, Tina reportedly walked away from her residence after helping her family hang laundry outside. She has never been seen since.

    Tina had run away on two previous occasions. Tina had a local boyfriend who she was close to; no one in the family or the boyfriend ever heard from, had any communication or ever seen Tina again. Foul play is strongly suspected.

    Tina’s disappearance was the day before a heavy snowstorm.
    She was known to frequent horse-racing tracks in Delaware and surrounding states.
     

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  19. CarlK90245

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    I have seen recent speculation that perhaps there is a link of Tina's disappearance to HL Lucas. Lucas was a drifter also had a connection to murders in Louisiana, so this isn't entirely out of the realm of possibility.
     
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