LDS Theories -- Relations to LeBarons/Chenoweths

Discussion in 'Mysterious woman from Longview, Texas' started by Fin, Dec 18, 2012.

  1. Fin

    Fin New Member

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    [​IMG]Here is a photo of Jaqueline Tarsa LeBaron. LeBaron,47, 5'11" is currently incarcerated for her role in murders that occurred in Houston and Irving,Texas in 1988. She is the daughter of Ervil LeBaron, polygamist cult leader who ordered the murders of various people.

    One can read more about the cult leader Ervil LeBaron in this online book:
    http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/classics/ervil_lebaron_cult/4.html

    Ervil had thirteen wives in their colony in Mexico. The family was associated with appliance repair businesses and car sales in Texas and various states. Many of the children born in the Mexico colony would not have birth certificates (possibly). He stood 6'8". He wrote a document from prison with a hit list. Many people on the list are said to have gone into hiding. His family lived in his colony in Mexico, and Texas, among other locations.

    As suggested by another WS member in this thread, this type of scenario (or associations with this family) would be an excellent reason why a person like our UID would be in hiding or might have the need to use someone else's identity.

    Is our UID a sister (or half sister) to Jacqueline Tarsa LeBaron?
     
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  3. Fin

    Fin New Member

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    Interesting that this cult thing comes up. I had just gotten the idea a few days ago of a possible cult affiliation from a book I'm presently reading. Haven't had much time but what little time I did have I had not come up with anything thus far. I do think that a cult could be a plausible explanation for this woman's pseudo-identity.
     
  5. Magnum P.E.

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    That read on the LeBaron group was fascinating. Interesting possibility, and one reason to steal someone else's identity - no birth certificate or SSN.
     
  6. Sulamith

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    I have been reading the comments at the Seattle Times and found out that the reporter had removed some posts. I never saw them before they were removed. Some reporting huh? A few posters over there posed some very good questions IMO. How in the hay does that reporter know that the Ruffs are very nice people?

    It was mentioned over there that she might be from Ervil LeBaron's clan.

    Side Bar:

    My "adopted" father knew both Ervil and Joel LeBaron. When my "father" moved our family from AZ to TX, one of our road trips were to Mexico to visit either Ervil or Joel. I was only 13-14 so I do not remember much. I was raised Mormon/LDS and looking back, I think my "father" was looking to become a polygamist. Anyway...IMO..I do not think Jane Doe came from a LDS/RLDS polygamist background.
     
  7. Tripmap

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    I agree not from LDS or polygamist as she would have been, most probably, very familiar with babies and comfortable with them.
     
  8. kdblaisdell

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    Okay, I'm one of the people that thinks that this may be a very simple case of a mentally ill woman being paranoid, BUT when I looked at Jacqueline's picture I was a bit surprised at the resemblance.

    I can't remember (and am really not ambitious enough to go through this whole thread, sorry) but did LEK have a nose job?
     
  9. MollyB

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    I do think Jacqueline LeBaron resembles LEK in body stature and the size of her hands. It's amazing how alike their hands are.
     
  10. CindyTx

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    Yes...many commentors on the Seattle Times comments page have mentioned a possible connection to the LeBaron family who was tied to murders in Texas in 1988. Read here: Wikimedia Error

    The families of this sect practiced polygamy and it has been said Evril LeBaron had has many as 50 kids. Evril was known to be very tall...greater than 6'4" and many of his kids were also very tall.

    Jacqueline LeBaron was one of his children...and she was one who was convicted for the 1988 murders of several persons who were considered traitors or enemies of their teachings. Here is a picture of Jacqueline LeBaron...note her height and her hands. LEK could have been one of her siblings (there were many)...who would have wanted to disappear. There is a sister named Cynthia LeBaron who testified against Jacqueline and others. Cynthia is in the witness protection program.

    http://nimg.sulekha.com/others/original700/jacqueline-lebaron-2010-5-14-20-25-16.jpg

    Sentencing Article:
    http://www.fbi.gov/houston/press-releases/2011/jacqueline-lebaron-sentenced-to-prison
     
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    If she was a LeBaron child and being molested, it would certainly make sense that someone may have helped hide her.
    I agree that if she was attending meetings in Aug, that she was pretty "together" up until that point. I wonder if there are any more meeting photos out there that e haven't seen.
     
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    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/93422/LEBARON-DAUGHTER-FACES-AUTO-THEFT-CHARGE.html?pg=all

    I found this interesting.
    This article names all 6 of the LeBaron children who went missing.

    http://articles.latimes.com/1989-11-12/news/mn-2056_1_evril-lebaron
     
  13. ozgirl70

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    Continuing with the LeBaron angle, I have found reference to 2 of the 3 girls who went missing from foster care. The oldest and youngest appear to be living their lives as themselves. I feel for them.

    I've found nothing yet for Nikki. Could our JD be Nikki?

    I see a resemblence between JD and the oldest sister, Norma, if I have found the right person.

    :moo::moo:
     
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    I am also one of those who thinks this case will end up like that, and I had written off the FLDS angle, but the Lebaron info is quite compelling and may be a real possibility. I didn't know much about them and starting to read about them at 1 am was probably a bad idea!

    Also, note that Ervil Lebaron died of a heart attack. I know: super common, but LEK did have that heart disease gene...

    Did you guys see that as of 2012, Jacqueline is out of prison, whereabouts unknown? :eek:
     
  17. AngelaE8654

    AngelaE8654 Angela from Aberdeen

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    This is actually the first time one of the pics of someone who is supposed to look like LEK actually DOES resemble her, IMO. This person truly does look like they could be related.
     
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    The LeBaron cult angle seems possible except that if she was trying to escape from them, why would she have gone to Texas where so many of them were?
     
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    For those pursuing the lebaron possibility: Does that family carry the defective heart gene FLEK had?
     
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