LDS Theories -- Relations to LeBarons/Chenoweths

Discussion in 'Mysterious woman from Longview, Texas' started by Fin, Dec 18, 2012.

  1. Owutatangledweb

    Owutatangledweb Well-Known Member

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    I agree! If you study his mouth, and the mouths of some of one of the younger boys. It's that straight across lip/ smile with a little bend down on the left side of one of the boys, and it seems FLEK's did this. I agree that none of the children appear to be FLEK, including Natasha. Perhaps Wendi? If not, there sure is enough of a resemblence that she could be part of the unknown extended family.
     


  2. Owutatangledweb

    Owutatangledweb Well-Known Member

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    Looks like she had Rena's eyes and Bud's mouth!
     
  3. Owutatangledweb

    Owutatangledweb Well-Known Member

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    Owutatangledweb Well-Known Member

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    I'm wondering if she was a part of the Marston or Barlow families.

    There are pics of Eddie Marston and his mouth is similar.
     
  5. Owutatangledweb

    Owutatangledweb Well-Known Member

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    This article by william Heber Lebaron gives a pretty good history of the comings and goings of certain parts of the family and cults.. He is in prison for the 1988 murders.

    http://hismin.tripod.com/lebaron.html
     
  6. Linda9681

    Linda9681 Active Member

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    files.lib.byu.edu/ead/XML/MSS2258.xml
     
  7. Owutatangledweb

    Owutatangledweb Well-Known Member

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    Trying to find out what this place in Bakersfield is. All I could find is a 1975 dog grooming place. This A.A. Academy is mentioned in Linda's link on the JFK thing.


    2 Burt Lawrence DVA mid-July 1977 interview of A.A. Academy owner in Bakersfield, Calif. (by phone) (3 pgs.)
     
  8. HerStory

    HerStory Genealogy Junkie

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    It just dawned on me. It is not Natasha OR Cynthia, because they would have both been fingerprinted in 1987.

    But!

    I started to think about Rebecca, who supposedly died in 1977. Ervil ordered her murder and the two guys, Duane Chynoweth and Ed Marston, allegedly followed it through. However, BOTH of these men were eventually executed on June 27th, 1988! Smack in the middle of the time period when the 'new' BST arrives in Dallas. Maybe they staged her murder to appease Ervil's demand and then helped to liberate her? I am wondering if FLEK was either 1) Rebecca, 2) Wendi, 3) someone else involved with the killing, 4) someone involved with the escape?


    (Irene Spencer - Cult Insanity)
    http://www.irenespencerbooks.com/cultinsanityexcerpt.html[

    (Julia Scheeres - Killing for God)
    http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/classics/ervil_lebaron_cult/index.html

    http://www.justice.gov/usao/txs/1News/Releases/2011 September/110908 Lebaron.htm

    http://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/93/93-02474.CR0.wpd.pdf (page 6)


    My hesitation in considering Rebecca is that she was the daughter of Ervil and Delfina...and biologically unrelated to the Chynoweths (to my knowledge). Yet, FLEK is the spitting image of Bud!

    Since the family seemed to intermarry, men married younger sisters of their own mother's sister wives, etc, maybe Ed was in a relationship with Wendi or Rebecca?

    I don't know! I feel tangled now. :(
     
  9. Linda9681

    Linda9681 Active Member

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    yes..it hurts my brain. Bud had several wives also and many children. How old would Rebecca's child be? There are NO pictures of her. I wonder why...This whole FLDS situation is making me dizzy. If anyone has a way to get in touch with RENA, i will contact her and just dang ask. In her book, she pretty much lived with at one time or another ALL of Ervils kids and knew her sisters kids pretty well. I am sure she knows all of her own brothers and sisters.

    I emailed the co-writer of her book, Dean M. Shapiro. He lives in New Orleans.. I asked him to forward the Seattle times article and my comparison pics to Rena...that would be super awesome. Lets hope he responds.

    I am at a point in the book after the trial of Ervil, where most of the family moves to Houston, TX. Rena had a falling out with her sister Lorna, and they kicked her out of town. Some lived in Dallas, some in Houston. They ran a used appliance store.
     
  10. HerStory

    HerStory Genealogy Junkie

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    Rebecca's child with Victor Sr was Victor Jr.
     
  11. Linda9681

    Linda9681 Active Member

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    i was talking about the unborn baby...
     
  12. Linda9681

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    Just finished the book. Evidently, most of Lorna's kids were scattered to the wind and went underground after she disappeared in the early 80's. She was in Mexico and was headed back to the US, and vanished.
     
  13. Linda9681

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    Sure.. But this particular thread is about the LeBaron and Chenoweth family with the possibility she may be related. So far there is no " she may be from a normal family" thread...
     
  14. SideKick

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    Victoria Rebecca LeBaron
    Dated:
    Booking Number: 201000014962

    http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Florida/Sarasota-County-FL/Victoria-Rebecca-Lebaron.6325286.html

    Mugshots.com ID: 6325286

    Arrest Date: 11/02/2010 at 12:00

    Booking Date: 11/03/2010 at 06:57

    and this one:

    http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Florida/Sarasota-County-FL/Victoria-R-Lebaron.2018963/details/

    Mugshots.com ID: 2018963

    Name: LEBARON, VICTORIA R

    Race: WHITE

    Gender: FEMALE

    Hair Color: BROWN

    Eye Color: HAZEL

    Height: 5′ 2″ (1.57 m)

    Weight: 116 lb (53 kg)

    Birth date: 11/15/1971

    DC Number: S17350

    Release Date: 11/01/2010

    Release Facility: HOMESTEAD C.I.

    Custody: MEDIUM

    Scheduled Termination Date: 10/31/2020

    Location: SARASOTA

    Supervision Begin Date: 11/01/2010

    Current Status: ACTIVE

    Supervision Type: PROBATION FELONY

    More at link.
     
  15. Linda9681

    Linda9681 Active Member

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    So do we think this is the same Becky that was supposed to be murdered by Duane? (Ervils daughter)
     
  16. Owutatangledweb

    Owutatangledweb Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone know which branch of the service Bud was in? I'm not well-versed in those things and can't tell by the uniform or hat.

    THanks.
     
  17. Owutatangledweb

    Owutatangledweb Well-Known Member

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  18. Owutatangledweb

    Owutatangledweb Well-Known Member

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    thank you!
     
  19. blue22

    blue22 Well-Known Member

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    First, it's spelled Chynoweth.

    Second, I'm having to waaayy backtrack, to find out what case you guys are talking about. Is this about the woman who committed suicide and family are trying to figure out who she really was? If so, they have NOTHING to do with each other. I am not a verified insider (nor to I have the desire to be) but I was absolutely shocked, picked my jaw off the floor...at the suggestion of these being linked.
     
  20. docbh

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    Given the inter relatedness of many of the people involved, it could be that FLEK is related to the families via one reason or another but not obviously connected to or involved with the most famous lebarons that we have information on... I have come across many people with similar surnames and the same sort of appearance online that I haven't mentioned due to TOS.

    Blue22, I certainly mean no disrespect to any of the people involved, but the resemblance is striking. That has us down this rabbit hole...
     

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