Lindy Chamberlain

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  1. Breehannah6

    Breehannah6 Former Member

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    I have to say it was the same here with poor old Lindy and her baby Azaria,the prosection told us she had cut the babies throat on the front seat of the car and put the body in the camera bag their forensic person Joy Kuhl tesified to blood being everwhere in the front of the car!Turned out years laater to be rustproofing,there were so many blunders that came out after they had to release her years later.I am only glad she didnt die for it because most Aussies will now tell you a few years ago a dingo killed a 10year old boy, so no doubt from what I have seen of dingoes they would take a baby at a moments notice.
    But to be fair to Darlie it doesnt add up the same as it didnt with Lindy,she seemed as tough as nails describing whilst holding her babies ripped and torn jumpsuit how the dingo had got the baby out to eat it without undoing all the presstuds she had people hating her because of how she dealt with it! And the same jumpsuit forensics said no canine saliva or hairs present,blood consistent with someone cutting the babys throat whilst holding it upright,also the tears were not made from canine teeth but scissors from their first aid kit!!!
    I believed The Chamberlins were gulity as sin until it all came out years later,no wonder she left our country and went to USA.
    I cannot fathom how someone like Darlie ,could in fact think it all up???
    what did she gain?
     
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  3. Jeana (DP)

    Jeana (DP) Former Member

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    Well in this case, unlike Lindy's case, there IS ample evidence - blood and other - to prove that Darlie is guilty. And, unfortunately for her, there are no dingos in Rowlett.
     
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    Right... possibly deer, but no knife-wielding dingos!
     
  5. beesy

    beesy myspace.com/beesy_boo

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    Darlie gained nothing but a death sentence, but she shed a couple of things, 2 young boys
    Nothing at all like the Lindy case. I remember the Aussie police being upset that Lindy had a black dress for the baby. That is a really weak reason to suspect a mother of murdering her baby. There is nothing like that in Darlie's case. There was no rustproofing on her white carpet which turned red that night either. I keep saying it, but if it needs to be said again, I will. There is more solid forensic evidence against Darlie than in most murder cases. She has used up all of her state appeals. You mentioned Lindy was set free when the blunders were discovered several years later. Darlie has been sitting on Death Row since 1997. Her attorneys have tried every trick in the book to get her a new trial and they can't get one. So that's why it's different than Lindy's case. If not, Darlie would have been granted a new trial already.
     
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    If there are any Buffy the Vampire Slayer fans out there, you'll remember that Oz had a band called Dingos Ate My Baby, maybe they did it:bang:
     
  7. Goody

    Goody New Member

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    What do you mean "someone like Darlie?" How is she so different from Susan Smith, another young mother who kept her children clean and well nourished until she drove them into the lake and then lied about it to escape detection? Nothing Darlie "thought up" took much creative genius. I think anyone who set out to commit such a crime and get away with it could think the same thing up.
     
  8. Breehannah6

    Breehannah6 Former Member

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    In Susan Smiths case as well as some other cases it was over a man who didnt want to involve themselves with a mother,weak excues yes I agree.

    With Lindy no excuse at all, religous nuts we were told and it was years later it turned out to be rustproofing Joy Kuhl the pathologists claimed it was blood and even worse of a baby under 6months as they have a different haemaglobin,
    When she gave birth to her next baby they whisked it away as soon as it was born, So strong was all this blood eveidence ,no canine saliva hair or the cuts in the babys jumpsuit .They claimed as I said the spray pattern of blood in the front of their car was cosistent with Lindy cutting baby Azarias throat whilst holding her upright! There were lots of red faces and jobs lost many years later when things were re-analised.
    The point I am making is that Lindy would have been sat in the same kind of cell as Darlie ,if she had of been in this predicament in Texas.

    I have watched programs and read up on this and still think somethings isnt quite right, I think hubby had a hit on his 3 life insurances he didnt come downstairs until she was screaming.
    Trauma is a great thing we all see events in a different way and Darlie isnt a rocket scientist thats for sure.
    It could have been hubby opened front door for hitman, then assisted in cutting screen went upstairs prior to the nasty business ,maybe someone did go out through the screen ,the person that took the missing knife and dropped the bloody sock that may have been used to contain victims screamming whilst attacked!
    Its a hard call none of us were there but I sure dont think they have lined up all the ducks with this case
     
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    Oooooh, we Texans are just bloodthirsty monsters who are jealous of this bimbo and want to execute her for nothing. Darlie sure was lucky that the murderous "intruder" decided to stop stabbing and changed to scratching her with a knife, huh? Maybe he didn't want to mess up her beee uuu tiful boobs, huh?

    Just tell me how the "intruder" got that damned knife out of the kitchen butcher block, cut the screen with it, and got it back in the butcher block from outside the house and I will break her out myself.

    The ducks lined up for 12 reasonable people to say, she did it. And no one would climb out a screen when the door is open, would they? Sheesh. I am so glad this case has been tried and that biatch is just waiting on a date with the grim reaper.

    You can bash the TV representations, but their versions line up with the evidence. Darlie's story, or stories, don't fit the evidence. So I am going to go with the ones that don't include aliens and seem to fit the facts. So did the jury.
     
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    Haha, besides, there is something a little strange about

    "Howdy, ya'll. Cain't ya see, a dingo stabbed ma babies..."
     
  12. Linda7NJ

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    :laugh:
    Too funny! You don't think her husband was involved as well? I do.

    BTW You better not leave this forum! While everyone here may not appreciate your sense of humor, *I* do, and what else REALLY matters?:D

    I do understand what you mean, I am having a heck of a time staying off a particular thread on the Ramsey board!:sick: I just keep reading the posts, shaking my head and refusing to post my opinion as it would only lead to trouble. I may loose sleep ...."restraint" isn't my strong point! LOL
     
  13. Goody

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    The motive is not the important fact. Besides, I don't think Susan has ever stated publicly what her motive was. We are just getting the police's summation of motive based on the facts as they know them. I think Susan probably felt trapped and overwhelmed by her responsibilities and lack of help from the children's father, and the boyfriend's rejection was probably just more confirmation of that. However, whatever actually drove her that day was probably not just her feelings of lost love but a combination of things, just like Darlie, that went way beyond just one single motive.

    I don't think so. Lindy's case would have never made it thru Texas courts. You are forgetting that there was compelling physical evidence against Darlie that could not be explained any other way but that she was the killer. There was no such evidence against Lindy.

    Darin could not have been involved in the murders without Darlie knowing it, so if you believe he did it, then you have to believe that Darlie is covering up for him. And there is not a single blade of evidence indicating that Darlie would give up her life to save his. No way would she sit on death row for almost ten years now if she knew he did it.

    If Darin hired a hitman to kill her for insurance money, she would have been the target. Instead it is easy to see the children were the targets. They were the ones with the deadliest wounds, which is the key element in determining who the target in a murder scene is....i.e. the one with the deadliest wounds.

    There is no blood evidence at all to tie Darin to the scene before he said he became a part of it. All of the blood evidence points to Darlie and only Darlie.

    I am all for wanting her to be innocent, but not if I have to throw out compelling evidence against her to do it.

    You are right that there are a lot of unanswered questions, little mysteries left unsolved in this case, but what remains does not question Darlie's guilt. It questions Darin's and it questions what happened to bring on the attack on the children, it questions clear motive, but if we have the answers to it all, we would have nothing to exonerate her because we can't undo the blood evidence or the fiber evidence and that is what it would take to exonerate her at this point.
     
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    Esp when they would have to walk a narrow path in the dark amongst stacks of boxes (for the upcoming garage sale) to even get to that screen. But of course he would have brought his handy-dandy flashlight along with him to fix that little problem. He brought the flashlight but not the knife. Weird intruder, that guy.

    And let's not forget that once he made it through that obstacle course of a garage to the window and stepped out of it onto the patio, he still had to get to the gate , that broken gate, and thru it without tripping the motion detector that would trip the flood light in the back yard. (He must have been casing the place for some time to know how to avoid that motion detector) Then he had to walk down the drive (after picking up that heavy gate and closing it so the neighbors wouldn't notice someone had been there) and he had to walk down the drive under the big street light across the street, make it to the alley and then down the alley for 75 feet without being seen where he dropped the bloody sock and disappeared into the night never to be heard of again.

    Don't forget there is another street light on the corner and then three spotlights on the water fountain in their front yard, which was kitty corner from the street light on the corner. That puts two street lights within about a half of block of each other along the side of the house where the driveway and entrance to the alley were. The guy must have felt like he was on stage. He couldn't have picked a better lit up house in the subdivision.
     
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    The ducks are quacking...Darlie, Darlie, :woohoo: Darlie!
     
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    Goody New Member

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    How do you think Darin was involved?
     
  17. cami

    cami Keep your fork......

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    LOL, I do too. I won't even bother to reply to posts like that as my sarcasm would be overflowing the board.
     
  18. Breehannah6

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    Nothing at all like the Lindy case. I remember the Aussie police being upset that Lindy had a black dress for the baby. That is a really weak reason to suspect a mother of murdering her baby.

    They didnt think she killed her because of the dress,or that the word Azaria stood for sacrifice in the wilderness!lol
    They thought that because the worlds leading forensic expert Joy Kuhl who we brought in from Scotland,said that the substance in the car (front passenger area was foetal blood ! That there was blood in their camera bag, it all added up to the fact that she killed her by slitting the babys throat in the car and stuffing her body in the camera bag,she later disposed of the body after they left the campground they even checked in .
    he septic tank at the motel they stayed in the next day!


    I don't think so. Lindy's case would have never made it thru Texas courts. You are forgetting that there was compelling physical evidence against Darlie that could not be explained any other way but that she was the killer. There was no such evidence against Lindy

    Why wouldnt it? there was compelling evidence against the Chamberlians at the time ,we didnt jail her because she put the baby in a black dress and we didnt like the look of her!!LOL
    Aussies were as sure as you Texans that she had done this for years!

    People are murdered everyday with no "excuse", no motive. I realize Lindy was innocent, but Darlie is not Lindy. Darlie is Darlie. Stop comparing cases. You're comparing apples to oranges. Darlie had plenty Darlie reasons for killing her boys. Things that seem senseless to us, but weren't to her. How can you say that at least Susan Smith had an excuse? A stupid man!? Please!

    I dont think so they both killed their children,their husbands were also suspected, their stories didnt hold water with the law, they both came across as uncaring mothers (Lindy held the jumpsuit her baby had died in and described how the dingo would get the body out to eat it without undoing anymore of the clips!) We thought she had a reason to kill ehr baby postnatal depression. I didnt say she had an excuse(Susan Smith ) I said it was a really lame excuse! There had to be more to it the same as Dianne Downs.

    Have you read books? Have you looked at the pix? Have you read any of these posts? Court TV and A&E programs are wonderful, but they usually show the other side unless the person admits to the crime. They should not be used as a primary source of information. You're debating with people who have done all of the above and much more.

    So you are right? what more can you have done attended the crime scene?conducted the DNA ? maybe you can explain why you have such expert knowledge.I dont understand how you cant see that 2 people can look at the same thing as see it quite different! Maybe I look for the good in people and you dont ,but we are entitled to post what we think!
    The Routiers blew the 10 grand they got for the boys on their funeral, plus they needed more money to pay for that. I hope Darin didn't pay this invisible hit man because he forgot something. According to Darlie's story, the "intruder" saw her running behind him. He had no doubt that he left her alive. She wasn't unconscious, she was very much alive. A grown man easily could have overpowered her. By your theory, he wouldn't have been worried about time since you say Darin already knew he was down there killing his family. He didn't need to make a break for it. And when else would Darin have come downstairs? Before she began screaming?


    I cant believe those boys never made a sound whilst they were attacked and murdered? I just have some kind of feeling he is involved somewhere along the line and I am not the only one

    That's doubtful, Lindy would have received a new trial if there was as much evidence of mess-ups as you say there was

    She never got a new trial ,they just released her when they found the clothing she said the baby had been wearing folded up neatly in a pile in a cave many years later!! And there was no way they could have put them there! They never admitted they were wrong she has fought years to have her name cleared ,the best she got was a pardon! It was when she tried to fight to clear her name the blunders were discovered.
    The law sometimes aid the ducks to line up, but in reality the really didnt!
    How many times does it come out that someone is innocent Riley Fox,s father springs straight to mind ,why did he confess?
    Sorry but I dont believe everything I read and hear anymore I gave up being a media sheep after Azarias clothes were found!
    I am just offering my view, not to incite a riot in here, maybe you do know more than me about Darlie , but Lindys another story !
     
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    Then how did Darlie plant the sock without being seen? or Darin as some have suggested? She took a hell of a risk!
    We had one here called Elizabeth Knight who skinned her hubby!! (she had worked in the abaitors) hung his skin on a hook ,then gone to the ATM to get some of his cash out this was early hours of the morning but she was seen coming back by a neigbour who looked out of her window!
    If I had of done this no way would I have risked taking a walk with a sock , I cant see how someone would risk this ,to add what little it did to the alibi,evidence ,ect.....
     
  20. cami

    cami Keep your fork......

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    Darlie lived in that neighbourhood Breeanna, surely she knew to avoid the light and stay in the unlit shadows of the alley.

    Darlie and/or Darin needed to get rid of that sock for some reason. Obviously leaving it in or at the crime scene meant something for them, something incriminating.

    Yes, it was a hell of a risk but the risk of it being left at the crime scene was deemed greater that night.

    Only if Darlie talks will we ever know what that risk was, why did they need to get rid of that sock.
     
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