Luka Magotta AKA Eric Newman Trial, Week beginning Oct 13, 2014 - Trial Thread #2

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    I've asked Salem to lock this thread later today and open a new thread for us for next week.

    NSU :)
     


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    suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 12s 12 seconds ago

    A user had to put the file into the trash, witness says #Magnotta
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    suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 34s 34 seconds ago

    You've heard about people who can break into US government or even in Canada into big banks? Absolutely, witness says #Magnotta
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    suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 2m 2 minutes ago

    But you agree that there's a lot of things you can use on your own, Leclair says. Then makes jab at crown for not really being computer guy
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    suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 2m 2 minutes ago

    Do you like computers, Leclair asks. Love them, witness says. You must have met other guys, gals who love them too? Leclair asks Hackers?
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    suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 10m 10 minutes ago

    Laptop in Berlin had one such program installed, Massa says #Magnotta
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    suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 10m 10 minutes ago

    There were 2 programs on laptop in garbage that erases certain data on computer, like internet history #Magnotta
     
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    suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 2m 2 minutes ago

    That's the end of this witness #Magnotta Next up is recorded testimony from Paris and Berlin. break first #Magnotta
     
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    Thanks! It will get totally confusing if we don't start a new thread for next week. Easier to back track and find stuff if we have threads for certain time periods to refer to. :)
     
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    Break over. Continued...

    -First, recorded testimony from taxi driver who picked Magnotta up from airport in France on May 27 2012. Witness' name is under publication ban.
    -Describing Magnotta. Paid fare, gave tip. Seemed normal. Nothing suspicious. Nothing special.
    -Leclair wanted him to go to Montreal, but he works and is not interested in losing money.
    -Magnotta was merely a client, but later recognised him on TV and pictures
    -Witness done. Video recorded June 19, 2014.
    -Next witness from Paris' name is also under publication ban. Testimony video recorded on the same date as the last. Hotel manager.
    -Also recognised Magnotta from media
    -The witness called police
    -Magnotta paid for 9 days stay at hotel, identified himself with 'Kirk Trammell' passport
    -Magnotta never checked out, left belongings behind
    -Seemed normal, not nervous, but sweating
    -Witness finished.
     
  6. Little Jedi

    Little Jedi "I am free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equa

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    **Please read from Bottom Up**
    ~ Still can't do it ~

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    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    (Sorry, didn't mention, but the names of these witnesses are under a publication ban.)
    Oct. 24, 2014




    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    Soummam hotel close to Novotel, witness says. Says he can't remember exact date when first met #Magnotta , but it was day he rented room.
    Oct. 24, 2014




    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    Second French witness, recorded same day as first, June 19, 2014. He was manager at the second hotel #Magnotta stayed, just outside paris.
    Oct. 24, 2014




    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    That's all for him. Judge tells jury that during testimony, there was a screen where witness could see #Magnotta and vie versa.
    Oct. 24, 2014




    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    And that's why he had no interest in travelling to Montreal to testify. #magnotta
    Oct. 24, 2014




    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    On x-exam, man who drove #Magnotta from Paris airport to hotel says he's independent - if he doesn't drive in Paris he doesn't make money.
    Oct. 24, 2014




    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    Says he drove #Magnotta to Novotel. He gave me 5 euros extra than fare. "He was nice, he asked if he could smoke, he gave me 5 euros tip."
    Oct. 24, 2014




    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    The first is from France, man describing height, general appearance of #Magnotta . "In shape, nothing special."
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    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    Jury's back. We're going to listen to recorded testimony from Europe. #Magnotta
     
  7. BorgQueen

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    I'm still editing post on page 21. Thanks to people who are posting tweets. It is easier for me to just grab points and post them like that. I'm such a scatterbrain! :happydance:
     
  8. Little Jedi

    Little Jedi "I am free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equa

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    **Please read from Bottom Up**
    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    Next witness from France, whose name also falls under the publication ban. This testimony was recorded June 23, 2014. #Magnotta
    Oct. 24, 2014

    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    The Mickey Mouse top police recovered in that room. #Magnotta was seen wearing this on airport surveillance footage.

    Oct. 24, 2014

    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    Police have testified #magnotta bought his plane ticket using his own name and travelled with a passport bearing his name.

    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    When he rented the room he offered a passport. Hotel manger says #Magnotta used name Kirk Trammel. Thinks that was also name on passport.
    Oct. 24, 2014

    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    Witness asked when #Magnotta left the hotel for good. Says hotel layout allows for people to come and go without being seen all the time.
    Oct. 24, 2014

    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    Witness says #Magnotta rented the room for nine days, paid >400 euros in cash.
    Oct. 24, 2014

    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    View of the room #Magnotta ow.ly/i/7kWLe rented at the Soummam hotel in France after fleeing Canada.
     
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    Little Jedi "I am free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equa

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    ^^ I'm liking this 'summary points' idea ^^
    Tweets confuse me :giggle:
     
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    I am ok with reading the tweets, but when it comes to posting them here, I lose it.
     
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    Continued... (will edit as I go along)


    -Next witness, name under publication ban, recorded June 23, 2014
    -Was in plane next to Magnotta on trip to Paris
    -Magnotta hiding his face with his hair. He seemed strange.
    -Witness slept most of the trip
    -Magnotta said he did not speak French
    -Magnotta kept hand to face, got up once
    -Witness says Magnotta was thin at the time, but now he is fat :laughing:
    -Leclair asked witness what was strange about Magnotta's behaviour. Hiding his face, nervous, anxious.
    -Magnotta slept, looked out window. Didn't eat, watch inflight movie. Changed seats.
    -Magnotta apparently not feeling well, according to flight attendant
    -Witness done. Next also from France, sold ticket to Berlin to Magnotta on May 31 2012
    -Testimony taken on June 25, 2014
    -Magnotta was wearing makeup
    -Name on passport, Kirk Trammel. Claimed he was 26 years old
    -This witness also points out that Magnotta was thinner then :laugh:
    -Leclair suggests to witness it wasn't a passport and asks if witness made a copy. No.
    -Asked why witness recognised him days later. Because of makeup, androgynous look

    Done for today, back monday morning.
     
  12. Little Jedi

    Little Jedi "I am free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equa

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    ** Bottom Up :smile: **

    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    What did you find weird about #Magnotta ? His comportment, he just seemed like a bizarre person.

    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    On cross examination, defence asks witness about reading the reports, watching the news and realizing he'd sat next to #Magnotta

    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    A few days later, witness says, he saw the picture of #Magnotta .
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    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    Witness says he saw #Magnotta coming down the aisle of the plane and thought him odd. Witness slept through much of the flight, he says.
    Oct. 24, 2014

    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    Witness says #magnotta was hiding his face with his hair, a bit discreet.
    Oct. 24, 2014

    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    This man was on a plane with #Magnotta , sitting in a row of three between a friend and the defendant.
     
  13. Little Jedi

    Little Jedi "I am free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equa

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    ** Ditto **

    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    Leclair says he finds it surprising the agent remembered things about #Magnotta but wasn't interviewed until June 4.
    Oct. 24, 2014

    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    There were 58 people on the bus. how many bought their ticket from you? Witness says they can find out, but he doesn't know.
    Oct. 24, 2014

    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    Prosecution finishes questioning ticket agent. Leclair begins cross-examination. #Magnotta
    Oct. 24, 2014

    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    Witness says he recognized #Magnotta after seeing the photos on news.
    Oct. 24, 2014

    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    The name and passport matched, under name Kirk Trammel, witness says. Passport was possibly burgundy, don't remember. #Magnotta
    Oct. 24, 2014

    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    Says #Magnotta paid for his ticket in cash, asked for ID, because the name on ticket has to be the name of the person travelling. #Magnotta
    Oct. 24, 2014

    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    They spoke in English, agent says. Describes #Magnotta as a bit feminine, proper, takes care of himself, styled eyebrows.
    Oct. 24, 2014

    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    Next recorded testimony in France June 25, 2014. He sold ticket to #Magnotta at Paris bus station to Berlin on may 31, 2012.
    Oct. 24, 2014

    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    That's it for this witness, on to next one from France. #Magnotta
    Oct. 24, 2014

    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    #Magnotta had changed seats at landing, flight attendant said he wasn't feeling well, witness tells defence lawyer.
    Oct. 24, 2014

    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    Leclair also focused on #Magnotta 's behaviour/demeanour during flight to Paris. Did he eat? Did he watch movies? What did you find bizarre?

    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    Leclair asked this witness, who's a paediatric nurse, whether he's ere seen a paranoid schizophrenic. Says may have, since did a psych stage
    Oct. 24, 2014

    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    What did you find weird about #Magnotta ? His comportment, he just seemed like a bizarre person.
    Oct. 24, 2014

    amy minsky
    @amyminsky

    After seeing pictures on news, witness went online to look for other pictures. Called friend to ask whether he also thought it was #Magnotta
     
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 1m 1 minute ago

    Last name? Don't remember. Kirk Trammell? Yes. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 1m 1 minute ago

    Made out ticket to Kirk ....something... Why remember Kirk? It's not a common name. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 2m 2 minutes ago

    Says passport was burgundy coloured, doesn't remember nationality. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 2m 2 minutes ago

    Witness says #Magnotta was there about 15 minutes, paid 70 euros in cash. Gave name, but agent asked for document. Got passport.
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 4m 4 minutes ago

    I recognized #Magnotta in pictures, with makeup, well defined eyebrows, appearance a bit feminine, took care of himself.
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 4m 4 minutes ago

    Did #Magnotta have luggage? NO, maybe a satchel. Spoke English.
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 5m 5 minutes ago

    May 31, 2012. Witness was counter agent who sold Berlin same day bus ticket to #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 6m 6 minutes ago

    Next up, Jean-Philippe Lethon. Testimony taken June 25, 2014. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 1m 1 minute ago

    The trial in Montreal in September, did police ask you to testify? No. Would you accept? He hesitates. Doesn't know. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 2m 2 minutes ago

    But at first, you didn't remember him? No, surprised I'm the one who sold him a ticket. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 3m 3 minutes ago

    So how come you recognized him later? Because of makeup, androgynous look? Yes and saw him in video surveillance too. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 3m 3 minutes ago

    Behaved ok with you? Yes. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 3m 3 minutes ago

    Kirk is easier, though not common in France. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 4m 4 minutes ago

    If I asked you how Trammell was spelled, you couldn't say? No. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 4m 4 minutes ago

    You didn't take down birthdate from passport? No, just asked name and age, to speed things up. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 5m 5 minutes ago

    Back to passport. I suggest to you it wasn't a passport. You didn't make a copy? No. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 6m 6 minutes ago

    Remember what #Magnotta wore that day? No. But you remember his made-up face? Yes.
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 6m 6 minutes ago

    Also saw video surveillance and recognized #Magnotta too.
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 7m 7 minutes ago

    Photos to identify #Magnotta came from highway safety patrol.
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 8m 8 minutes ago

    So if I asked who bought tickets before #Magnotta, you couldn't say? Leclair asks. No.
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 8m 8 minutes ago

    So sold how many tickets May 31? Don't remember, can sell about 50 a day. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 9m 9 minutes ago

    What surprises me is the exchange with #Magnotta, police only saw you June 4, a few days had passed, Luc Leclair says.
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 9m 9 minutes ago

    On passenger list, #Magnotta travelling as Kirk Trammell, 58 passengers. How many bought tickets with you? Don't remember, could be online.
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 10m 10 minutes ago

    Crown done, defence next. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 10m 10 minutes ago

    No, it's a travel agency in 18th arrondissement, we can see these types of people in the neighbourhood daily. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 11m 11 minutes ago

    Any other infos about impression of #Magnotta?
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 12m 12 minutes ago

    He didn't check birthdate in passport. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 12m 12 minutes ago

    There are fares for those under 26. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 13m 13 minutes ago

    I asked him age at the time, he said he was 26. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 13m 13 minutes ago

    Recognize #Magnotta on the video link hookup screen? Yes, but he was skinnier then.
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 13m 13 minutes ago

    Heard about the case a few days later in the media. Saw photo too. Recognized #Magnotta later.
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 15m 15 minutes ago

    Last name? Don't remember. Kirk Trammell? Yes. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 15m 15 minutes ago

    Made out ticket to Kirk ....something... Why remember Kirk? It's not a common name. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 16m 16 minutes ago

    Says passport was burgundy coloured, doesn't remember nationality. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 16m 16 minutes ago

    Witness says #Magnotta was there about 15 minutes, paid 70 euros in cash. Gave name, but agent asked for document. Got passport.
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 17m 17 minutes ago

    I recognized #Magnotta in pictures, with makeup, well defined eyebrows, appearance a bit feminine, took care of himself.
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 18m 18 minutes ago

    Did #Magnotta have luggage? NO, maybe a satchel. Spoke English.
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 19m 19 minutes ago

    May 31, 2012. Witness was counter agent who sold Berlin same day bus ticket to #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 20m 20 minutes ago

    Next up, Jean-Philippe Lethon. Testimony taken June 25, 2014. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 24m 24 minutes ago

    Witness says he didn't want to come to Canada to testify because he's got a phobia about flying. Witness testimony over. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 26m 26 minutes ago

    Flight attendant said #Magnotta wasn't feeling well.
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 27m 27 minutes ago

    Witness remembers friend asked #Magnotta in English if he wanted to eat and he said no.
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 28m 28 minutes ago

    He didn't seem to watch the inflight movie, have a laptop, didn't eat? No. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 29m 29 minutes ago

    And if he wasn't sleeping, he was looking out the window? Yes. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 30m 30 minutes ago

    Statement says "young man was sleeping for a good part of the time." #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 31m 31 minutes ago

    So #Magnotta was very thin? Yes. Hair medium length? Yes. Light coloured pants? Yes. Wasn't looking closely.
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 32m 32 minutes ago

    So #Magnotta had no sunglasses? Don't remember.
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 33m 33 minutes ago

    Know people who are paranoid schizophrenic? I suppose, I've seen some at work during psychiatric internships. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 34m 34 minutes ago

    So what was bizarre about his behaviour? His attitude, hiding his face with hand, seemed nervous, anxious, strange. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 35m 35 minutes ago

    So you called Interpol that night? Yes. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 4m 4 minutes ago

    Magnotta trial Day 17 is over. Back on Monday. #CJAD
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 4m 4 minutes ago

    Video testimony appears to be over. Judge bids the jury farewell until Monday when they resume. #Magnotta
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 6m 6 minutes ago

    Witness looking at statement. Sees statement where he says #Magnotta wasn't wearing sunglasses.
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 7m 7 minutes ago

    You also said in statement that #Magnotta didn't wear sunglasses? Doesn't remember. Getting out police statement.
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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 7m 7 minutes ago

    By video conference? Yes. #Magnotta
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    Little Jedi "I am free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equa

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    Well, that is done for the weekend. Hopefully I didn't mess up the summary points too badly. Sorry I couldn't be more useful, posting tweets and stuff.
    I swear, by the end of this, I am going to be near fluent reading French. While I wasn't using the French tweets for the points I typed out, I have been reading them. They're starting to make sense now!

    And Magnotta must be mortified by his weight gain (and everybody noticing). That stupid ugly striped tank top won't fit him now, from the sound of it!
     
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    I didn't realise that. I thought it was just Eric Clinton Newman. :eek:hwow:
     
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    :loveyou:Thanks everyone for posting or summarising the tweets, it's very much appreciated!

    I did take a look at Sue Montgomery's twitter feed this afternoon and saw that she was getting quite a bit of criticism from people who either 1. Thought Magnotta has been framed! 2. Thought she shouldn't be posting the gory details 3. Thought LM is obviously a monster
    I'm not on twitter or I would send her a thank you for her coverage, I think she's doing a great job.
     
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