Luka Magotta AKA Eric Newman Trial, Week beginning Oct 13, 2014 - Trial Thread #2

Discussion in 'Luka Rocco Magnotta AKA Eric Newman' started by Salem, Oct 10, 2014.

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  1. Little Jedi

    Little Jedi "I am free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equa

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    That's a very good point - There's no 'digital footprint' connecting them been found by LE Experts.

    LE have stated they still don't know how they met.

    * Thou I recall talk of JL working in a store Magnotta used ?? *

    BBM We pretty much know this is fact now so JL was clearly NOT a willing 'victim'.
    And by having these drugs ready Magnotta clearly knew & prepared for that !
     


  2. Rayemonde

    Rayemonde Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, that's what the neighbour told the press, anyway. Who knows how true it is. The neighbour was Derek MacKinnon, who had acted in a movie called "Terror Train", in which he played a serial killer.

    "MacKinnon says he was the only resident of the apartment building who regularly spoke with Magnotta, whom he described as quiet and well-kept. The two occasionally chatted about the film industry.
    "I knew he had acted in porno films," MacKinnon said. "Besides, everyone on the block knew. He was nicknamed 'the porn star.'"
    He said Magnotta was cold at first but soon warmed up once he learned about MacKinnon's past.
    "I'm sure he went to see who I was on the Internet since a few days later he asked me for advice about how to quit the porn industry and get roles in real productions," MacKinnon said"
    MacKinnon hasn't slept much since Lin's remains were found and he wonders if he could have been the victim had things turned out differently.
    "The night it happened, Magnotta had invited me to spend the evening with him to talk more about film," the actor recalled. "I was busy, so I turned him down."

    Bolded by me. Link to the article:
    http://m.torontosun.com/2012/06/04/magnotta-inspired-by-slasher-flick
     
  3. Little Jedi

    Little Jedi "I am free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equa

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    Luka Rocco Magnotta sought as body parts case turns into horror ...

    http://m.thestar.com/#/article/news...s_body_parts_case_turns_into_horror_show.html
     
  4. Little Jedi

    Little Jedi "I am free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equa

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    Oh Good Grief !
    I haven't read about this 'horror story' before :blushing:

    But found this quote interesting:

    *from ^^ Toronto Sun
     
  5. Rayemonde

    Rayemonde Well-Known Member

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    He definitely sounds mentally ill to me! But I would not want him back on the streets! There should be a way for a judge to sentence people like this to life in a secure psychiatric hospital - not being punished, but being looked after, medicated and separated from the general population so they can't do any harm in the future if their symptoms recur and they become dangerous again. Releasing them as soon as they are deemed to be in remission is too risky when they have done things like this in the past. But I wonder how people with genuine severe mental illnesses fare in a normal prison? Not too well, I should think.

    Religious cases are tricky though, because it's not necessarily a sign of mental illness to believe in demons and the like. People who believe that the government are watching their every move are deemed to be delusional, but people who think that god is watching their every move are not if that's a normal belief within their culture. IMO, if you actual hear demons talking to you you're probably mentally ill, but when I was doing teacher training at a religious university there were a lot of born-again Christians there who swore that they literally saw the holy ghost during church services, and one guy told me that Satan literally spoke to him at night and tempted him to do bad things. To me, that sounds like a sure sign of mental illness but these were quite common beliefs amongst these born again christians and the people didn't show any other signs of mental illness.

    There was a guy in Scotland who murdered his friend because he said that a vampire from a movie appeared to him and told him he must kill to become a vampire. The defence claimed he was suffering from paranoid schizophrenia but three prosecution witnesses said that he suffered from anti-social personality disorder and was either inventing or exaggerating his "hallucinations" in an attempt to get a lighter sentence. He was found to be sane at the time of the killing and went to prison, where he later killed himself.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3168520.stm
     
  6. Kamille

    Kamille Shine bright like a diamond

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    I suppose this guy was pretty much written off as someone looking for his 15 minutes? I don't really believe much of what he said TBH. And it looks like LM was wearing that wig a lot in the days leading up to the murder, if not all the time while living there because he was hiding from the police trying to track him down about the animal videos.

    I also do not believe that LM ever starred in a real porn film that wasn't something he and a few other guys filmed in someone's apt with a video camera or regular camera and uploaded to the internet. Or is there an actual film out there with a known porn film company and his name in the credits? Did anyone do any hunting on this?

    So in conclusion I think Mr Terror Train is full of it. Lol

    MOO
     
  7. Kamille

    Kamille Shine bright like a diamond

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    This guy wants to die apparently but wasn't able to kill himself. Right there I question his mental health and how much of this he's also saying as a defense to what he did. No doubt he wanted to kill the women as he had no problem even after the girlfriend said no. I never found out who called LE to the scene? Was it him because he was injured?

    Anyway, I am curious as to what a judge alone will make of this case and what his sentence will be. And why does a judge get months to make a decision? Anyone know?

    MOO
     
  8. Little Jedi

    Little Jedi "I am free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equa

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    :idea:
    Ooooo ......... after reading what MacKinnon says again could it be HE WAS in fact the intended victim ??

    Magnotta made some effort to get to know him, only him.

    http://m.torontosun.com/2012/06/04/magnotta-inspired-by-slasher-flick
     
  9. Rayemonde

    Rayemonde Well-Known Member

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    Here are some snippets from an interesting article I found about the religion issue in NCR cases:
    http://religiondispatches.org/relig...-murder-trials-will-ask-the-burning-question/

     
  10. Little Jedi

    Little Jedi "I am free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equa

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    The 'Internet Adult Film Database' has him listed :

    (I'll just show the titles of listings :wink:)

    Distributor
    Performer Credits

    8 Titles


    http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=LukaRoccoMagnotta/gender=male
     
  11. DragonNades

    DragonNades New Member

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    Watching the surveillance, there was a small window between 9:32 PM and 10:20 PM during May 24, 2012 as Luka left his apartment, and came bac with Jun Lin. I noticed when he left, he did not have a plastic bag and when he came back with Jun Lin, he had a plastic bag. It's possible he went to the convenience store that Lin worked that, met him there (bought something as well) and came back to him. It seems Magnotta avoided using the internet to scout for victims, as we were never able to find Mr.X or how he and Lin met.

    I remember a while ago...two things that were interesting...it was an article that Magnotta was scouting for victims through Craigslist, and a possible ad he may have used, posted on the same day Jun Lin died.

    http://forum.liveleak.com/showthread.php?t=93068

    Okay, since the link to the forum that had the old ad isn't working, I'll post it here. I am not sure and do not contend Magnotta posted this ad:

    Movie - m4m - 26 (Montreal)

    Date: 2012-05-24, 9:39AM EDT
    Reply to: hpd3j-3035036102@pers.craigslist.org

    I am looking for a sexy guy who is interested into becoming an actor in a personal movie I am making.

    Please be between 18 and 35, good looking. I am making the movie for me, it's for fun, so I m not going to pay you anything.

    if you are interested, send me your stats with a face pic and a body pic.

    Remember, No pic= No answer

    AND i am not looking for sex and No c**k sucking.

    * Location: Montreal"
     
  12. Shimmers

    Shimmers New Member

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    Yes I remember that add! But nobody ever found out if the add was truely LMs. In the light of what happened the following night, it is surely a bizar find/add!

    In regards to your thoughts of meeting JL in a conveniece store... Well, JL worked in a store in the area in Verdun. It is a bit off route from Decarie where LM lived, but not impossible. On the other hand i found something what cought my eye and I can't recall if it has ever been discussed here, so I pop it out here.

    In July 2011 JL and his boyfriend lived on Charlevoix street above a conveniece store. Sounds familiar right? Who lived on Charlevoix street in May 2011? Right... LM did! But we do not know for how long he stayed there, so it could be possible that they have met already in 2011. Just as people you know from your "hood" no? How they then meet up in 2012? Maybe they just bumped into eachother, "long time no see, come have a drink with me" scenario? No internet, no craiglist no nothing. That could also explain why LE didn't find anything of a connection between the two.

    articles related:
    http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/10/01/luka-magnotta-trial-hears-jun-lins-lover-describe-his-panicked-trip-to-canada-after-jun-lins-disappearance/

    http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/a-photographers-encounter-with-luka-rocco-magnotta/
     
  13. No_Stone_Unturned

    No_Stone_Unturned New Member

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    Hi People:

    I've just alerted Salem to lock this thread and open the one for the trial tomorrow morning. See you in Thread 3.

    NSU :)
     
  14. Morbida

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    I have a hard time taking this guy seriously. Notice he name drops the one movie he was in a million years ago. Sounds like a failed actor seeing an opportunity to get his name in the press and taking advantage of it.
     
  15. Salem

    Salem Former Member

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