Luka Magotta AKA Eric Newman Trial, Week Nov 20, 2014 - Trial Thread #4

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  1. raffielle

    raffielle Well-Known Member

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    LM testifying on his behalf?? Please do not tease me.

    That would be absolutely a dream come true because if there was any doubt in the jury’s eyes as to whether or not he is NCR (don’t’ get me wrong here, the man is clearly disturbed with serious mental issues but HE IS CRIMINALLY RESPONSIBLE) it will be proven by his smug, narcissistic attention seeking, poor me attitude not to mention his inability to tell a believable lie (which in my mind will open the door to questions that will sink him and his credibility).

    Please dear lord answer my prayers and let him testify.
     


  2. Rayemonde

    Rayemonde Well-Known Member

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    Well said! :D
     
  3. No_Stone_Unturned

    No_Stone_Unturned New Member

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    TRIAL CONTINUES (WE THINK) - TUESDAY 25 NOVEMBER, 2014:

    https://twitter.com/sleecjad


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    ETA:

    Quoting from raffielle:

    Please dear lord answer my prayers and let him testify.

    Mine, too!!
     
  4. andreww

    andreww Former Member

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    LM won't be testifying. The defense is using doctors to relate LMs version of the events. The beauty of this is that the doctors can not be questioned about inconsistencies as they are simply relating what they have been told. If Magnotta says one word from the stand it would open him up to all the questions the doctors wouldn't answer.

    In the end it's his decision though, and if he really is crazy, he could disregard the wise advice of his council. But don't hold your breath.


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  5. Kamille

    Kamille Shine bright like a diamond

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    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 25m25 minutes ago
    Legal housecleaning first before jury comes in. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 5m5 minutes ago
    Back in 20. #Magnotta
     
  6. No_Stone_Unturned

    No_Stone_Unturned New Member

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    So this 'final witness' needed all day Friday and all day yesterday to be prepared?

    :thinking:
     
  7. No_Stone_Unturned

    No_Stone_Unturned New Member

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    Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 14s 14 seconds ago

    #Magnotta trial Day 35 starts now. #CJAD
     
  8. Kamille

    Kamille Shine bright like a diamond

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    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    #Magnotta trial Day 35 starts now. #CJAD
     
  9. Kamille

    Kamille Shine bright like a diamond

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    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    Detective Sgt Michel Bourque next witness. #Magnotta

    Stephane Giroux ‏@SGirouxCTV · 1m1 minute ago
    #Magnotta resumes. Defence calls investigator Michel Bourque to the stand

    salimah shivji ‏@salimah_shivji · 1m1 minute ago
    #Magnotta trial resumes with defence calling Mtl police's Det-Sgt Michel Bourque, one of lead investigators on the case. #cbcmtl

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    He was the lead investigator. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
    On production orders in relation to telephone numbers. #Magnotta
     
  10. Kamille

    Kamille Shine bright like a diamond

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    What? The lead detective? Looks like we're going to find out more about the phone calls on JL's phone?
     
  11. Kamille

    Kamille Shine bright like a diamond

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    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    Dec. 12, 2011. Public Mobile account. #Magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 57s58 seconds ago
    Bourque found that phone account of #Magnotta was under Chris Lemieux, 901 Sherbrooke St E, Mtl.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 43s44 seconds ago
    Account under name of "Chris Lemieux" believed to have been used by #Magnotta, witness says.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 42s43 seconds ago
    Activated Dec. 12, 2011. #Magnotta
     
  12. Kamille

    Kamille Shine bright like a diamond

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    I knew he was scamming phone companies with fake names and addresses. I guess we won't be hearing from the defence how much LM owed the phone company under that phony name?

    MOO
     
  13. Kamille

    Kamille Shine bright like a diamond

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    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 43s43 seconds ago
    Production orders are requests from police to get numbers and account info from the phone company. #Magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 57s58 seconds ago
    First number used on this account was 438-939-6227 #magnotta had many different numbers till May 25 2012 when Lin was killed

    salimah shivji ‏@salimah_shivji · 55s56 seconds ago
    Bourque is asked about police investigation into #Magnotta cell account in Dec 2011, it was under name Chris Lemieux, prepaid packages.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 33s34 seconds ago
    Jan 2 - Jan 21, different phone number. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 39s40 seconds ago
    Jan 21-Feb 20, diff phone number. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 42s42 seconds ago
    Feb 20- Mar 5, 2012, diff phone number. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 48s49 seconds ago
    Mar 5- Mar 12, 2012 , diff phone number. Same for Mar 12-May 25. #Magnotta

    Stephane Giroux ‏@SGirouxCTV · 2m2 minutes ago
    By January 2012, #Magnotta was always changing phone number

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
    Last production order: May 25, 2012, still another phone number. #Magnotta
     
  14. Kamille

    Kamille Shine bright like a diamond

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    Okay it appears he was using prepaid services. So he just kept changing phone numbers on the same phone? Under a prepaid account?

    I guess we're going to hear that was because of his paranoia. Of course he was paranoid. The POLICE were looking for him in regards to the CAT KILLING VIDEOS. So was the SPCA and a lot of animal lovers on the internet. Because he taunted and provoked them. With MORE VIDEOS.

    SMH :notgood:

    MOO
     
  15. Kamille

    Kamille Shine bright like a diamond

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    salimah shivji ‏@salimah_shivji · 3m3 minutes ago
    #Magnotta had 6 different cell numbers from Dec 2011 to May 25, 2012, Bourque tells the court.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 3m3 minutes ago
    On May 25 at 8:13 a.m. call was made to a 1-800 number. And before, several calls to 705 area code, which is where #Magnotta family lived.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    Last call made from Mar 12-May 25 phone to 705 area code, made on May 25,2012 at 7:22 am. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    A few short calls made to the 705 area code. #Magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
    Calls started at 7:47 a.m. on May 25, the day Lin Jun was killed. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    Witness says phone was recovered from garbage outside #Magnotta apartment.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    Defence done. #Magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 1m1 minute ago
    Defence ends questioning of Bourque. Crown asks when last call was made: Last outgoing May 26 to 705. May 29 voice mail retrieval #Magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 57s57 seconds ago
    Crown asks if Lin's phone recovered. Yes, it was at his Forest Hill apartment, Bourque says #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 44s44 seconds ago
    Time of last call on last phone number outgoing: May 26, 6:55 pm. Call placed to 705 area code. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
    Defence rests. #CJAD #Magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 1m1 minute ago
    And the defence rests its case. #Magnotta
     
  16. Kamille

    Kamille Shine bright like a diamond

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    What?!? That was it?

    And how did JL's phone get to his apartment? Did he ever have it with him that night? If not, why not?

    So confused. :waitasec:
     
  17. Kamille

    Kamille Shine bright like a diamond

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    salimah shivji ‏@salimah_shivji · 2m2 minutes ago
    #Magnotta defence rests it case. The Crown calls 1st rebuttal witness, Dr. Joel Paris #cbcmtl

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
    Crown is calling Dr Joel Paris, the psychiatrist who saw #Magnotta at the Jewish General a month before Lin's death

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
    This is expert testimony in response to expert testimony the defence already called. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
    Crown says they'll be calling rebuttal witness. Dr. Joel Paris, psychiatrist. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    Defence has rested without calling the accused to the stand. #Magnotta #CJAD

    salimah shivji ‏@salimah_shivji · 2m2 minutes ago
    Dr. Paris is a psychiatrist, saw #Magnotta @ Jewish General Hospital about a month before killing. Crown asking he be named expert witness.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
    Paris is sitting to testify - most witnesses stand. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
    Dr. Joel Paris sworn in.Going over his CV to qualify him as expert witness. Grad of McGIll, psychiatriy, '72. Full prof since 94. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 41s42 seconds ago
    Published 20 books plus lectures and reviews. Specializes in personality disorder. #Magnotta

    salimah shivji ‏@salimah_shivji · 37s38 seconds ago
    Dr. Paris going through his CV. He's been a full prof of psychiatry at McGill since '94. His specialty is personality disorders. #Magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 53s54 seconds ago
    PD is continuous disfunction for many years. Trouble holding job, relationship. These are most frequent patients in psychiatry #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 52s53 seconds ago
    Witness says personality disorder begins early in life and is continuous over many years. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
    Witness says there are 10 categories of personality disorder. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
    Defence asks witness if first time to testify in court? Correct, he says. #Magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 57s57 seconds ago
    There are 10 categories of PD. And there's an unspecified category, Paris says. This is his first time testifying in court case. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 41s41 seconds ago
    Judge qualifies witness as expert witness. #Magnotta
     
  18. Kamille

    Kamille Shine bright like a diamond

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    Okay, we've got a non "paid expert" psychiatrist with a lot more experience than Allard or Watts who saw LM just before this murder, not months after. Let's see what he has to say about his behaviour.
     
  19. No_Stone_Unturned

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    This guy has tremendous credentials. McGill. Many years working as a psych. Impressed.....:thinking:
     
  20. Kamille

    Kamille Shine bright like a diamond

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    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    Witness says met #Magnotta one time in April 2012.

    salimah shivji ‏@salimah_shivji · 3m3 minutes ago
    #Magnotta defence points out Paris has never before testified as an expert witness, but defence has no objection to him doing so here.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 3m3 minutes ago
    Paris met #magnotta as patient once in April, 2012. Resident psych and Paris spent about an hour with M. Report being filed

    Brigitte Noël ‏@Brige_Noel · 2m2 minutes ago
    Crown asks Paris to define personality disorders. Says disorder is "continuous dysfunction" not manifested in episodes. #Magnotta

    salimah shivji ‏@salimah_shivji · 2m2 minutes ago
    Paris met #Magnotta in April 2012 once, after a referral. The report from that visit is entered into evidence.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
    #Magnotta had been seeing doc and taking meds. Case referred from CLSC, Paris said

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    How did meeting come about? Witness says take referrals through local CLSC, #Magnotta taken for consultation and evaluation.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
    #Magnotta had to make appt and come on time, and that's what happened, Paris says

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    Witness says met #Magnotta for an hour, "normal consultation."

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
    An hour is a normal consultation. Both Paris and the resident asked questions. A difficult, complicated case. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 3m3 minutes ago
    He and co-psych conducted consultation with #Magnotta, was complex case.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    Witness says knew nothing about #Magnotta.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    Witness says had no past medical record of #Magnotta. Would have asked if plan had proceeded.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
    Paris knew "absolutely nothing" about #Magnotta's history. Report is only what M told him.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    Read about case in newspaper, recognized #Magnotta right away. Was complicated and difficult case.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
    Paris would have asked for records, but just a few weeks later, Lin was killed. Paris read it in newspaper and knew right away was #magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    Witness says some of things he was told by patient were unusual and surprising. #Magnotta

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
    #Magnotta was composed, coherent, was anxious when he arrived for appt with Paris

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    Witness says #Magnotta was coherent, thought pattern was not disordered in any way. Could understand him well.

    salimah shivji ‏@salimah_shivji · 2m2 minutes ago
    Paris: it was a complicated/difficult case, because it was "a story that went back many years" where verification was necessary. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
    Witness drafted report a week after April 17, 2012 meeting. #Magnotta

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
    On #Magnotta history: followed in psychiatry in Ontario, wanted to be followed in Que too but didn't say why, witness says.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 1m1 minute ago
    #Magnotta said he had psych in Ontario but wasn't being followed in Montreal, Paris said. Referral for bipolar disorder

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 57s57 seconds ago
    Witness says #Magnotta told him about highs and lows, could last few hours, couple of days, used terms manic phases.

    Stephane Giroux ‏@SGirouxCTV · 1m1 minute ago
    #Magnotta described "highs" and "lows" that could last hours, days.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
    #Magnotta reported highs and lows, manic phases, not able to sleep, shopping, then would crash. Most recent was 4 mths previous

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
    Witness says #Magnotta subject to episode four months ago, impulsively bought ticket to London UK, spent $$$ on clothing.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
    #Magnotta bought ticket to London in that manic phase and dropped a bundle on clothes there. But no grandiose ideas like being Messiah

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
    Witness says asked questions about the episode. Was he talking too fast? #Magnotta told him no.

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 27s27 seconds ago
    Witness says when #Magnotta would crash, would suffer from depression, have to push himself out of bed.

    suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 43s44 seconds ago
    #Magnotta would crash, had difficulty getting out of bed. Lows that lasted longer than high periods

    Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 30s31 seconds ago
    Witness says asked about relationships, if unstable. #Magnotta told him, 'Absolutely.'
     
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