MA - Bella Bond, 2, found dead, Deer Island, Boston Harbor, June 2015 - #5

[human]

W

You can take somebody's kids from them because they have no job or drivers license.

Really? Taking children away is a lengthy process. No job and no driver's license is not a reason,

 

[heartgoesout]

But you should be able to take them away because they are running a drug house where the child lives.

 

[heartgoesout]

The job and license enable one to take care of a child and are just icing on the cake when one is also a drug dealer.

 

[heartgoesout]

And now I'm laughing because all that was taken from that was he doesn't have a job or license. Just jumped right over the drugs?? SMH

Anyway, like I said my point was in Bella's case it does seem people did reach out for outside help but with no results gave up.

 

[giagreen]

W

Really? Taking children away is a lengthy process. No job and no driver's license is not a reason,

No it is not a good reason at all. Are you kidding me? Half the stay at home moms here would have to be looked into then by cps. My mom never drove because she has a fear of driving. She can hardly be a passenger. Should cps have been all over that and taken me away cause she didn't have a drivers license? Where are we gonna put all these kids?

 

[Sonya610]

no it wasnt. but i believe it has been speculated that since she was in the fridge and not the freezer, the cells didnt change which would come up in autopsy.

There is cell damage from freezing BUT would the medical examiner have caught it? The body had been in water and already had skin slippage. They would have to run special tests to see if the cells were damaged from freezing.

Since Bella has not been buried I guess they could have gone back to look for signs of freezing in the last few days unless she was kept at below freezing temps while waiting to be identified.

She was sitting in the morgue for how long? 80+ days? I would think she would have been frozen to preserve any potential evidence.

There are two types of mortuary cold chambers:

Positive temperature
Bodies are kept between 2 °C (36 °F) and 4 °C (39 °F). While this is usually used for keeping bodies for up to several weeks, it does not prevent decomposition, which continues at a slower rate than at room temperature.[2]

Negative temperature
Bodies are kept at between −10 °C (14 °F) and −50 °C (−58 °F). Usually used at forensic institutes, particularly when a body has not been identified. At these temperatures the body is completely frozen and decomposition is very much reduced.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgue

 

[Whiteorchids]

Regarding Rachelle's FB and lack of posts: I wonder if she posted the pics of Bella as public so JA could see them but posted everything else privately. That way she doesn't have to add him as a friend but he can (or could) still see how "awesome" of a mother she was to Bella. More of a show than anything. My point is that she could have still been active on FB but wasn't really caring about showing off her mothering because she was too doped up.

The computer hard drive will us more. One article said RB and JA spoke on the phone regularly he even talked to Bella on the phone although her speech was only a few words. RB wanted to always talk money to JA this eventually led to RB ending all phone contact with JA. I wonder if he threatened her with going to DCF and since she stopped contact this led him to coming out to Boston. I wonder if she killed Bella to spite him. I don't know this whole story is twisted, it makes no sense. One thing for sure Bella is dead and her Mom and MM are scum of the earth.

 

[giagreen]

But you should be able to take them away because they are running a drug house where the child lives.

True. I've found that its best to just call the cops on the spot. Waiting and calling seems to get nothing done. I've called cps before and along with cops. The cops actually did something. Took the kids. Aressted mom. Then called cps. The problem with cps is that they get a lot of revenge calls. Especially with domestic abuse situations where one parent is trying to leave and the other wants them and the kids back. At least with cops they don't have time to hide anything if its not the case of a revenge call.

 

[grammajama]

Why was RB allowed to have her hoodie up in Court? I didn't think hats etc were allowed on in courts.

 

[Whiteorchids]

True. I've found that its best to just call the cops on the spot. Waiting and calling seems to get nothing done. I've called cps before and along with cops. The cops actually did something. Took the kids. Aressted mom. Then called cps. The problem with cps is that they get a lot of revenge calls. Especially with domestic abuse situations where one parent is trying to leave and the other wants them and the kids back. At least with cops they don't have time to hide anything if its not the case of a revenge call.

It's true about the revenge calls. My BIL is a retired ER Dr Hospital emergency was always busy on sun eve after parents would be returning the kids from mom or dads visitation weekend because of a little bruise here or there that was consistent with a fall or bump but the other parent thought it was from abuse thus trying to get the Drs to report them to CPS.

 

[epiphany]

It appears that Michael McCarthy's mother prob spent close to two decades (my guess is since his teenage years; he's 35 yo now) trying to keep him on the straight & narrow, assisting him when in legal trouble, trying to get him clean, etc. According to one of her neighbors, his mother passed away about 2 years ago.

That's close to 20 years of having his Mommy take care of him & his heroin addiction and what were likely other probs--legal, financial, criminal, health, social/emotional etc.

Of course RB looks mean, angry and hardened. She is. However...

Michael McCarthy is not IMO an altar boy. With his double chin and excess pounds, seems he found not only a place to crash (prob not paying her a nickel) and a female to have relations with, but a nice clean apartment and plenty of take-out fast food and no one to nag him!

My guess is he prob set himself up as her pimp-of-sorts. With Mommy dead, he finally got to run the show. Any show. He obvi didn't follow his Mommy's "orders." No reason to follow RB's commands. Even if I cut him a break, this mean-looking female didn't control this overweight heroin addicted 35 yo man-child.

Afraid of RB? Don't believe that for a second. Took orders from RB? Don't believe that either. With his Mommy gone & off his back, he finally could do as he pleased...and he apparently did. Totally.


<snip>

&#8220;He was an addict, a heroin addict,&#8221; she said. &#8220;She spent her whole life trying to stabilize him, trying to keep him out of trouble.&#8221;

But two years ago, McCarthy&#8217;s mother died, she said. Months later, McCarthy was evicted, and the former neighbor said he told her he would have to live on the streets.

https://www.bostonherald.com/news_o...mer_neighbor_recalls_accused_s_troubled_times

 

[matou]

Why was RB allowed to have her hoodie up in Court? I didn't think hats etc were allowed on in courts.

Good question. That was bugging me too.

 

[SwizzleStix]

Why was RB allowed to have her hoodie up in Court? I didn't think hats etc were allowed on in courts.

I was wondering that as well. Men are always asked to remove their caps, why would a hood be allowed?

 

[wondering25]

The computer hard drive will us more. One article said RB and JA spoke on the phone regularly he even talked to Bella on the phone although her speech was only a few words. RB wanted to always talk money to JA this eventually led to RB ending all phone contact with JA. I wonder if he threatened her with going to DCF and since she stopped contact this led him to coming out to Boston. I wonder if she killed Bella to spite him. I don't know this whole story is twisted, it makes no sense. One thing for sure Bella is dead and her Mom and MM are scum of the earth.

What makes you think she had a computer? i figured she did everything on her smart phone..JMO

 

[Amonet]

Here is the link saying he knew for a week that Bella was dead.


http://www.boston.com/news/local/ma...any-charges/YTA7sJjk2sjnRSFn8wfOPJ/story.html

I think we need to question this. Where that article says "he knew more than a week ago that his young daughter Bella Bond had been killed" it's linking to another article, dated 20th September:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/09/19/bella/gTUv3lRRWmVY5uIdrbW0SP/story.html

Which says "By the end of last week, after they had spent about 24 hours together, he said, she told him the awful truth."

The 'end of last week' could be referring to Wednesday the 16th September (which I think is the date the tipster contacted the police) through Friday the 18th September, which is the day after the arrests. It depends on whether or not someone would consider 'last week' to include those dates, and whether the 'end of the week' might refer to Wednesday night through Thursday.

That will come out in the trial, but from JA's wording in interviews to the media, RB apparently wanted to talk about nothing but Bella, and initially only said that 'He'd understand later', and it was only later during their encounter that she admitted Bella was dead. If it was the Wednesday night, and that's why Rachelle called JA requesting to see him, it could have been because she'd already told the tipster's brother (MS) and knew that the police had been contacted by this time and she had only a few hours to tell her version to JA before she was arrested and he learned from the police/media.

It could have been the previous week, but it's very unclear from what has been released which dates it is referring to. So he could have known for a week, or he could have only known for about 12 hours before the police came to make the arrests. I think he's referring to the week that it broke and that he only knew for about 12 hours. Otherwise, he's not only withheld going to the police for a whole week, he would have spent the night with Rachelle and then said "Bye" and let her go back to the apartment (where was MM for this week) for a whole week before she told the tipster's brother. I find the 16th/17th September to be more logical for this story, BUT so much of the story/stories coming out are not logical, I could easily be completely wrong and he walked around with this knowledge for a whole week before Rachelle told anyone else...which raises the question of what did Rachelle do after speaking with the tipster's brother...did she go back home for the night, did she stay at someone else's place, or did she call JA and want to sleep outside for the night, knowing the police were coming the next day and she wouldn't be sleeping outside under the stars for many, many years to come?

 

[Sonya610]

I was wondering that as well. Men are always asked to remove their caps, why would a hood be allowed?

Possibly it is a matter of courtroom etiquette. Historically men removed their hats when they enter a home/room/elevator as a sign of respect for women/others. Women, on the other hand, do NOT remove their hats indoors.

 

[wondering25]

I was wondering that as well. Men are always asked to remove their caps, why would a hood be allowed?

Ir was probably that or we would all be treated to the sight of disgusting neck lesions from being injected with heroin into her jugular..JMO

 

[Inthedetails]

I think we need to question this. Where that article says "he knew more than a week ago that his young daughter Bella Bond had been killed" it's linking to another article, dated 20th September:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/09/19/bella/gTUv3lRRWmVY5uIdrbW0SP/story.html

Which says "By the end of last week, after they had spent about 24 hours together, he said, she told him the awful truth."

The 'end of last week' could be referring to Wednesday the 16th September (which I think is the date the tipster contacted the police) through Friday the 18th September, which is the day after the arrests. It depends on whether or not someone would consider 'last week' to include those dates, and whether the 'end of the week' might refer to Wednesday night through Thursday.

That will come out in the trial, but from JA's wording in interviews to the media, RB apparently wanted to talk about nothing but Bella, and initially only said that 'He'd understand later', and it was only later during their encounter that she admitted Bella was dead. If it was the Wednesday night, and that's why Rachelle called JA requesting to see him, it could have been because she'd already told the tipster's brother (MS) and knew that the police had been contacted by this time and she had only a few hours to tell her version to JA before she was arrested and he learned from the police/media.

It could have been the previous week, but it's very unclear from what has been released which dates it is referring to. So he could have known for a week, or he could have only known for about 12 hours before the police came to make the arrests. I think he's referring to the week that it broke and that he only knew for about 12 hours. Otherwise, he's not only withheld going to the police for a whole week, he would have spent the night with Rachelle and then said "Bye" and let her go back to the apartment (where was MM for this week) for a whole week before she told the tipster's brother. I find the 16th/17th September to be more logical for this story, BUT so much of the story/stories coming out are not logical, I could easily be completely wrong and he walked around with this knowledge for a whole week before Rachelle told anyone else...which raises the question of what did Rachelle do after speaking with the tipster's brother...did she go back home for the night, did she stay at someone else's place, or did she call JA and want to sleep outside for the night, knowing the police were coming the next day and she wouldn't be sleeping outside under the stars for many, many years to come?

I've also been wondering if she knew LE had been tipped off about her. IDK.

 

[Whiteorchids]

It appears that Michael McCarthy's mother prob spent close to two decades (my guess is since his teenage years; he's 35 yo now) trying to keep him on the straight & narrow, assisting him when in legal trouble, trying to get him clean, etc. According to one of her neighbors, his mother passed away about 2 years ago.

That's close to 20 years of having his Mommy take care of him & his heroin addiction and what were likely other probs--legal, financial, criminal, health, social/emotional etc.

Of course RB looks mean, angry and hardened. She is. However...

Michael McCarthy is not IMO an altar boy. With his double chin and excess pounds, seems he found not only a place to crash (prob not paying her a nickel) and a female to have relations with, but a nice clean apartment and plenty of take-out fast food and no one to nag him!

My guess is he prob set himself up as her pimp-of-sorts. With Mommy dead, he finally got to run the show. Any show. He obvi didn't follow his Mommy's "orders." No reason to follow RB's commands. Even if I cut him a break, this mean-looking female didn't control this overweight heroin addicted 35 yo man-child.

Afraid of RB? Don't believe that for a second. Took orders from RB? Don't believe that either. With his Mommy gone & off his back, he finally could do as he pleased...and he apparently did. Totally.




“He was an addict, a heroin addict,” she said. “She spent her whole life trying to stabilize him, trying to keep him out of trouble.”

But two years ago, McCarthy’s mother died, she said. Months later, McCarthy was evicted, and the former neighbor said he told her he would have to live on the streets.

https://www.bostonherald.com/news_o...mer_neighbor_recalls_accused_s_troubled_times

It was her apt she could have gotten him kicked out through section 8 or police. She has a history of restraining orders so she is fully aware how they work and that she could have gotten one against him.

Her sister grew up with her. I'm believing her words over anyone else's at the moment. She's the most credible. IMO. She believes RB was the instigator. RB was older then MM he saw her as his Mommy replacement taking care of him like mommy used to do. Once a mamas boy always a mamas boy. I believe RB was able to manipulate him.

He probably did what RB told him not to not get kicked to the curb.

 

[mrsward]

Ir was probably that or we would all be treated to the sight of disgusting neck lesions from being injected with heroin into her jugular..JMO

Or the judge couldn't stand the sight of her...