GUILTY MA - Conrad Roy, 18, urged by friend, commits suicide, Fairhaven, 13 July 2014 #2

My point is this: witchcraft is only words, occult mumbo-jumbo which in itself causes nothing to happen, much like Michelle Carter's texts - only words. Punishment for either is misconceived.

The incidents took place in the Greater Boston area.

 

Michelle Carter, a “model inmate”...

Michelle Carter a ‘model inmate’ – Boston Herald

 

It was her words that tipped the scale for Conrad getting back into the truck. Obviously a Judge thought so to as did the MA. Supreme Court. And numerous others including myself. If you have not read the text in their entirety I suggest you might want to but be warned they are painful. If you have read them you have a right to your opinion as we all do but I feel that there is no comparison between the Salem witch trials or what MC did. Her words did him in and JMO.

 

Conrad Roy was a legal adult who enjoyed free will.

It is sorrowful he made the choice he did.

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I feel so bad for the family.

 

"After she convinced him to get back into the carbon monoxide filled truck, she did absolutely nothing to help him: she did not call for help or tell him to get out of the truck as she listened to him choke and die," Supreme Judicial Court Justice Scott Kafker wrote in the court's opinion affirming her conviction. BBM
THIS ^ is what it’s all about for me.

Woman Begins Jail Sentence For Texting Suicide Conviction

 

I wish I could love this post. I'd "love" it a thousand times! Mental health treatment is so woefully inadequate it's unreal! If it were more effective, and had decent insurance coverage we probably wouldn't have half the cases we see here.

Recently, my 13 year old daughter best friend was suicidal. But she was too afraid to ask for help herself. She asked my child if she would go to the school psychologist and tell him. It was a very stressful thing for my girl to do, but she did it.

Unfortunately, they immediately locked her friend up in a facility, a week before Christmas, and so it seemed to the girls, that if you get the courage up to ask for help, you go to jail, ( of sorts).

She was released a couple days before Christmas, and she spent Christmas day here, and slept over that night. We so love her, and her Dad was really grateful to my girl for her help, BUT...

This young friend of ours, is NOT receiving competent care. There is huge problem finding competent, effective mental heath services. It's frustrating and sad.

Just recently, our young friend told us, her therapy is "BS" and that she still wants to kill herself, but "It's frowned apon".

I also agree that, in this case, a Federal appeal will defer to the state's decision. But not so much to raise awareness, but because Michelle's actions meet the standards for manslaughter, and there just no way around those facts.

 

I have to wonder about this. Did anyone happen to watch the Lifetime Movie, "Conrad and Michelle, If Words Could Kill"?

Just consider the title alone for a minute... IF? ( apparently, the writer/producer questions weather emotional abuse is harmful).

I unfortunately did watch the movie. It was disgraceful imo. ( and boring, truth be told!).

Conrad was depicted as a severely disturbed, suicidal pot head determined to die but didn't have the cajones to follow through. Seems like every scene where he wasn't in his home or school he had was smoking a joint and totally messed up. very little mention of his goals and achievements, such as getting his Captains Licence, ( one small reference, his mom mentioning it in court).

Michelle was depicted as a equally disturbed, ( minus the pot smoking ), young woman who earnestly believed she was "Helping" Conrad over the fears that stood between him and happiness in Heaven. (They even show her trying to hang herself, but doesn't at the last minute).

They never show how every. single. time. he expresses doubt, fear, the desire to live, she wacks him for it. calling him a coward, making him promise, OBLITERATING every single reason he had to live.

They leave a lot out. Only in last five minutes or so, do they depict accurately her extreme sociopathic personality, and even then, you can see that are trying to show that she truly didn't know what she was doing was "wrong". ( why then, did she instruct him to DELETE her messages as he was literally on the way to death?).

Such as when she texts Conrad's phone, after she has been convicted and sentenced, but is still free pending appeal... " Conrad, I love you I miss you my dearest love, my "person". As she is shown lying in a tanning bed closing the cover. This is clearly meant to imply that she did not, even then, realize the seriousness of her actions. but was mentally incompetent. I call BS and I think this movie was made to protest the verdict, or at least question it.

The movie so disturbed me, that I searched for reaction from either his family or hers, and there is none. There is no explanation for how or why this movie was made. ( or who profited). In fact so few people have even seen it, there is just about no mention of it online, anywhere.

Have any of you seen it? What did you think, if so?

 

I can never read those test again, it took me some time to get through them because I had to keep stopping and taking a break from it. MC absolutely knew, no doubt

Safeguard I was all gun ho on watching that movie and for some reason which I can not remember I didn't. Then I noticed it was on again and when I turned it on was more than half over but the little I saw I knew was BS. Maybe that is why there has not been much on it as I searched too.

And yes mental health care is inadequate tenfold. But MC knew what she was doing which make it totally different for me.

 

Wrongful death lawsuit in texting suicide case resolved

Wish they would say how it was "resolved".

 

This was posted a little while ago on my fb timeline.

Wrongful death lawsuit against Michelle Carter dismissed

 

Well, just dammit.

 

Documentary explores Michelle Carter case, detailing her mental health issues, history of self-harm | Daily Mail Online

New film on Michelle Carter texting suicide case debuts July 9 | Boston.com

Ther3 are other links I just posted the two above.

I Love You Now You Die, a HBO, 2 part documentary, on The felon vs. ‘The Commonwealth’. It discusses the case, asks questions on mental health, if a teen is responsible for murder plus more.