MA MA - Granby, WhtFem 720UFMA, 19-26, shallow grave off Route 116, Nov'78

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  1. Skeeter

    Skeeter New Member

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    I lean towards a young girl, approx age 12-17 by the shirt. And I believe that is a size based on teens clothing. I'm still curious about other articles of clothing being found.
     


  2. FiveFelines

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    From one of the news articles: "In addition to the swan blouse, according to newspapers, she was wearing vinyl wedgie-style shoes, a blue tank top and a black windbreaker." No word on sizes, though, and it doesn't sound like she was wearing anything on the bottom, like pants.
     
  3. FiveFelines

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    From one of the news articles: "In addition to the swan blouse, according to newspapers, she was wearing vinyl wedgie-style shoes, a blue tank top and a black windbreaker." No word on sizes, though, and it doesn't sound like she was wearing anything on the bottom, like pants.
     
  4. FiveFelines

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    Did I miss a link or is she not in Namus?
     
  5. Skeeter

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    So two tops and a windbreaker could possibly be early spring maybe...
    Im not familiar with the weather in MA
     
  6. FiveFelines

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  7. Owutatangledweb

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    As to someone asking about pants:

    "She probably was not from the area," said Granby police detective David Trompke. "Otherwise, I'm sure she would have been identified."
    She was wearing jeans and a short-sleeve, polka-dot blouse with a swan embroidered on the back, Trompke said, which are among the few clues to her identity. "

    http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/ar/t18422.htm
     
  8. carbuff

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    Of course she could have had a jacket or something that wasn't buried with her.
     
  9. Ravenspur

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    The murder took place in 1978-79. Route 116 forms a border between Granby and South Hadley. Pretty sure
    there was a stop by Granby Heights.

    The dump site was at least a mile from Route 116 in a direction no college student would travel. There were also no missing college students with bad teeth. The trail still exists, but it's not visible from the road. It's most likely a dump site, not a murder scene. The trail is and was not traveled or visible.


     
  10. Owutatangledweb

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    Okay, so no leads on the shirt, but in reviewing another old thread, I have a suspect to consider. Unfortunately he is deceased but they have his DNA AND I wonder if they have any DNA from this UID's clothing. This UID WAS A GUNSHOT TO THE HEAD IF I RECALL, correct me if I am wrong. Also, some of us have speculated that this UID is a bit younger than listed. So, consider this guy who shot two twelve year old girls in California but during our time frame was in the Maryland area.

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-41489.html
     
  11. carbuff

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    It's still a long way from Maryland to western Massachusetts.
     
  12. EmmaliLucia

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    So I'm guessing that the 13/14 was pants size instead of shirt size considering the shirt had no tags and shirts are not usually sized in numbers...

    I want to know if the police think it was her belt. If it is then she may be a bit (Or a lot) smaller than what she was wearing.

    But on that debate about what her weight would be: I am a size 6/8 (Depends on the day) and I'm 5'9 and 124 lbs. She'd only be two sizes above me (13/14 is the modern day 10/12). I'm guessing she'd be around 130-150 lbs depending on height.
     
  13. JusticeWillBeServed

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    "Granby Girl: NamUs, a Department of Justice database, aids amateur sleuths in cold case investigations"

    http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2015/08/granby_girl_namus_a_department.html

     
  14. Aeronomy

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  15. carbuff

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    Huh? I don't remember the bit about the ring!
     
  16. FiveFelines

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    I mentioned it up thread. I think it is noted in some of the old newspaper articles.
     
  17. carbuff

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    I'm sure it's totally my memory...
     
  18. Aeronomy

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    Ooh, I didn't see where you'd mentioned it previously. My sincere apologies.
     
  19. FiveFelines

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    No, it was just a quick mention! I wish they'd show a photo of the ring. I guess maybe it was just a plain gold-colored band?
     
  20. Laughing

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    Was the leather strap there? Is it specifically a belt? A poster mentioned stables on campus -- plenty of different leather straps around a stable.
     

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