MA - Suffolk Co., WhtMale UP14797, 25-40, died in hospital, name ''Joe'', Nov'92

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  1. Romulus

    Romulus Active Member

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    NamUs UP 14797

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/14797


    [B]Unidentified White Male

    [B]Found November 8, 1992 in [/B][/B]
    Suffolk County, MA
    Body Condition:
    Recognizable face[B][B][B][B][B]
    [B]Probable year of death: to
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    [B]Vital Statistics
    [B]Estimated age: 25-40
    [B]Approximate Height: 66 estimate
    [B]Approximate Weight: 145 estimate
    [B]Hair Color: [/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B]
    Brown;
    10 cm

    [B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B]Eye Color: brown[/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B]
    [B][B][B][B][B][B][B]
    [B]Scars and marks: [/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B]
    nothing
    Clothing & Accessories

    Clothing:
    blue jeans; red short; sleeve shirt; black underwear[B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B]
    [B]
    Jewerly: [FONT=arial][SIZE=3]nothing[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B]

    Footwear:
    white red & black sneakers[B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B]
    [B]Accessories: [FONT=arial][SIZE=3]nothing[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B]


    Identifiers
    Fingerprints:
    Fingerprint information is available elsewhere[B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B]
    [B]Dentals: [/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B]
    Dental information / charting is not available [B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B][B]
    [B]DNA: not available[/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B]
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    Case History: [/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B]
    Seized at a "friends" home and was taken to the Boston City Hospital, where he died. Witness stated his name is "Joe"
     
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  3. Romulus

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  4. ghostINshell

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    What I don't understand is that there are very very few details in this case:
    Who was this friend? And what was this person's name???
    Where was he exactly found??
    Where is the PM of him??
    Is there a sketch of 'Joe'??

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  6. ghostINshell

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    In addition, what was the cause of death???

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    Tru tho but I wonder if this UID's hair was also balding too which Namus also left out too. If my calculations are right Joe Ragan would be about 50 years old in 1992 which would make him a little bit of a rule out... idk[emoji53] It would be soo helpful tho if they put up a sketch/reconstruction of some kind...

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  9. alawaysslueth

    alawaysslueth New Member

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    All of the Joes that I can find that are missing does not meet the age
     
  10. ghostINshell

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    Maybe the name "Joe" was just an alias he used maybe
     
  11. ghostINshell

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    However now that I think of it if they say he was balding, then that would make him much older than 40 years old

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  12. ghostINshell

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    Sorry alawaysslueth I just thought about that (about the age I mean and the balding)[emoji28]
     
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  14. alawaysslueth

    alawaysslueth New Member

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    I can submit both of them if u would like
     
  15. ghostINshell

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    Sure that would be great!!!! Let's see!!!
     
  16. alawaysslueth

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    Ok I submitted Them both as possiable matches
     
  17. alawaysslueth

    alawaysslueth New Member

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    I just got an email back saying:


    [FONT=Calibri,sans-serif][FONT=Tahoma,sans-serif]Hello,[/FONT][/FONT]
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    [FONT=Calibri,sans-serif][FONT=Tahoma,sans-serif]Thank you for your email. I am currently out of the office on extended leave until mid-July.[/FONT][/FONT]
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    [FONT=Calibri,sans-serif][FONT=Tahoma,sans-serif] [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=Calibri,sans-serif][FONT=Tahoma,sans-serif]If your matter is not urgent, I will respond to your email as soon as possible upon my return.[/FONT][/FONT]
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    [FONT=Calibri,sans-serif][FONT=Tahoma,sans-serif]Thank you,[/FONT][/FONT]

    I will send them an email tommrow
     
  18. ghostINshell

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    Alright great!![emoji4] This should be an easy case to solve because there are enough clues at least to identify him in some manner.. I don't understand how law enforcement didn't put enough effort into getting more details on this case
     
  19. alawaysslueth

    alawaysslueth New Member

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    I just got an email back saying:

    Thank you, I forwarded your suggestion for consideration.

    Pamela Reed
    National Missing & Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
    National RSA Team Coordinator
    Regional Systems Administrator NJ, DE, MD, DC, VA
    817-666-5432
    Email: pamela.reed@unthsc.edu
    Web: www.NamUs.gov
     
  20. CountEveryMoment

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    That's not true most of the people I know who are balding or already lost their hair started balding in their early 20's. My brothers friend actually started balding in his last year of high school. So I wouldn't assume balding meaning they are older.
     
  21. DQN

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    I have watched some cases on "Who is Jane Doe" on Investigative ID. In one case the victim unidentified was not matched for 7 years because the ME said she was 27-29 years old, The missing woman was actually 45 years old. The detectives noticed the sketch resembled their missing woman and made the call to another state. It was her. If you have a gut feeling go with it. Don't let the height, weight or age influence your match. I have also seen the height off a couple or more inches in some cases. There may very well be errors in the data base entries due to typos.

    I also agree with Counteverymoment baldness is not necessarily a sign of age I know plenty of guys of high school age that started going bald.
     

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