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MA - Toddler Dies after Lice Treatment (Mayonnaise and a plastic bag) Goes Awry

Discussion in 'Up to the Minute' started by PastTense, Feb 5, 2015.

  1. PastTense

    PastTense Active Member

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    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/05/us-usa-massachusetts-lice-idUSKBN0L91YR20150205

    No charges have been filed yet. Does anyone see a crime here or not?
     
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  3. TTF14

    TTF14 Well-Known Member

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    A huge mistake and possible negligence. But I know if my child had lice I would not want to use harsh chemicals and might try this method. I'd like to think I'd know better than to leave the child unattended, though. If, upon autopsy, no lice is found....then yes, possible crime.
     
  4. PrairieWind

    PrairieWind Verified Attorney

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    I would agree. Unless the parent's story has holes in it, I don't see criminal charges.
     
  5. angelainwi

    angelainwi Certified Trauma Counselor

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    Um, cops called at 3pm the next day????
     
  6. wendybtn

    wendybtn Well-Known Member

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    Possibly crime of stupidity. How can you not foresee a toddler wallowing in the bed and pulling and tugging and doing anything to get the bag off? Plus I've never heard that the mayonnaise had to stay on all night. But, no it is probably not a chargeable offense.
     
  7. newone

    newone 2nd mouse gets the cheese

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    would have thought that a shower cap would have been safer alternative for a very young child ....... MOO
     
  8. keeponsearching

    keeponsearching The mighty Oak was once a little nut that stood it

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    The cops were called at 3 pm? I wonder if they meant putting the child down for a nap, but no it reads friday night the toddler went to bed with the mayo and bag. Possible neglect charges if these hours are real. I can not even imagine any child of any age wanting to sleep with a bag on their head.
     
  9. ScarlettScarpetta

    ScarlettScarpetta When the going gets tough, drink coffee

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    I don't see a crime. I see someone trying to kill lice in a healthy way because we know the chemicals are caustic.

    This seems like tragedy to me. Nothing more.
     
  10. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    Well if the child went to bed on Friday night and help was alerted on Saturday afternoon at 3 pm, where the heck were all the adults on Saturday morning?

    I dunno, if no one checks on a toddler wearing a plastic bag for 15 hours or more, it sounds like negligence to me. Even without the plastic bag I'd say it sounds bad.
     
  11. tlcya

    tlcya Well-Known Member

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    :fence: I can certainly understand not wanting harsh chemical delousing treatments in favor of some of the more benign home remedies. But if the timeline is put to bed with plastic bag on 18 month old's head and she was left unattended I think it warrants the closer look it is getting.

    Police in Springfield, about 90 miles west of Boston, responded to the 18-month-old girl's home at about 3 p.m. on Saturday after receiving a 911 call that a child was not breathing, said department spokesman Sergeant John Delaney. Officers found an adult administering CPR to the child, but medical personnel determined that the young girl had been dead for some time, he said.

    The family had put the child to bed on Friday night with mayonnaise and a plastic bag on her scalp in an attempt to treat head lice, he said

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/05/us-usa-massachusetts-lice-idUSKBN0L91YR20150205

    The girl was left unattended and apparently fell asleep, allowing the bag to slip down over her face, suffocating her.


    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-massachusetts-girl-dies-head-lice-treatment-28743260
     
  12. alwaysonmymind

    alwaysonmymind Proud Army Mom

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    Also,

    Police in Springfield, about 90 miles west of Boston, responded to the 18-month-old girl's home at about 3 p.m. on Saturday after receiving a 911 call that a child was not breathing, said department spokesman Sergeant John Delaney. Officers found an adult administering CPR to the child, but medical personnel determined that the young girl had been dead for some time, he said.

    Put a baby to bed on Friday night but don't call police until 3:00pm and child has been deceased for some time.

    Yes, I see a crime. moo


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  13. ScarlettScarpetta

    ScarlettScarpetta When the going gets tough, drink coffee

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    If that is true, Then something is up.. But I am leaning towards the baby being down for a nap around that time and maybe the same treatment used as was used the night before. That sounds practical to me.
     
  14. alwaysonmymind

    alwaysonmymind Proud Army Mom

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    Perhaps is bad reporting.

    Poor baby girl.


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  15. Nova

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    I have trouble imagining the stupidity of putting a toddler to bed with a plastic bag under any circumstances.
     
  16. gregjrichards

    gregjrichards Well-Known Member

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    Me too the poor little soul. I'm sure the child did not need the bag on her head overnight and should never have been left unattended with it on. I hope this tragedy is a lesson for other parents on what not to do when trying this technique.
     
  17. Supernovae

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    At 18 months old surely you could just cut off the hair?
     
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    Poor baby.
    Poor parents.
    Imagine having to live with knowing you did that.
     
  19. tlcya

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    I can't imagine leaving a child of 18 months with any sort of access to a plastic bag unsupervised for any length of time, let alone long enough to fall asleep and have been dead for some time before it was noticed and 911 called. If this baby girl was put down Friday night for bed and not discovered til 3 PM dead the next afternoon that is all kinds of criminally negligent IMO. If this is sketchy reporting and the child was simply left unattended and fell asleep or put down for a nap in this state I STILL consider it negligent but possible that it was simply a terrible error in judgment and not to a criminal degree.

    Still :fence: til we get more info on the investigation happening into the details of this incident by officials.
     
  20. Steft50

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    You would have to shave the child since the lice like to attach their nits on the hair shaft close to the scalp.
     
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    http://www.boston.com/news/local/ma...e-treatment/6UijF7UNKXCjmL7kEBI7mJ/story.html
    I don't know if the reporting is in error about how long the toddler was left unattended, but a small child should never be left alone with a plastic bag for any amount of time. Maybe at least some parenting classes are in order?
     

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