MA/TX - John Robert Whirty, Pre-1967 and 1984-1985

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  1. believe09

    believe09 New Member

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    John Whirty DOB: 2/5/1945
    JRW is 68 years old now.
    Murder with malice (Rose Marie Martin) was committed: 3/31/1967
    He started his sentence: 7/10/1967

    Whirty was charged with assault on a 12 year old girl in 1966, so he fled from MA to TX. He was convicted and sentenced in 1967 to the murder of Rose Marie Martin, who was 15 years old at the time she was murdered.

    Whirty served 17 years and was paroled. Once paroled in 1984, he made his way back to MA. He is a suspect in the 1985 disappearances of Catherine Malcomson and Sara Pryor. He was arrested for attempted kidnapping in 1985 and shipped back to TX for a parole violation.

    Whirty is definitely a serial offender at a minimum, but it has to be worth looking at him for crimes in both MA and TX pre 1967 and from 1984-1985 when he was busted for the kidnapping of a Newton woman.

    Given the pace of his crimes when he is free, I cant believe that he didnt offend between 1984 and 1985.

    He is associated with Ludlow, MA and Sherborn, MA. LE states he was in the area when Cathy and Sara were kidnapped. According to the woman who was kidnapped but rescued in 1985, the interior of his vehicle was rigged to prevent escape.
     
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  3. Gardenlady

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    On my way out at the moment, but wanted to drop this article here quickly. Apparently Whirty was/is? considered a suspect in the disappearance of Cathy Malcolmson also:

    http://www.milforddailynews.com/news/x463130843

    No idea if this case was ever solved - article above is from 2003. Will look more when I'm back home.
     
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    Bumping my posts over from cold case thread:
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    Bumping my posts over from cold case thread:
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    Bumping my posts over from cold case thread (edited to reduce):
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    Bumping my posts over from cold case thread (edited to reduce):


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    Dope-slapping myself... Not sure how I missed Cathy's name in your earlier posts!
     
  9. Gardenlady

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    The link article says that Whirty worked for a company out of Holliston delivering playground equipment. :eek:hoh: on the day Malcolmson disappeared, company records show he was in Framingham, but investigators noted that that isn't too far of a drive from Stow, where Cathy disappeared from.
     
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    Bumping post over from cold case thread:
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  11. SkiptomyLu

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    Yes. I remember being told he travelled around delivering and assembling playground equipment, like swing-sets to peoples homes. :what:

    Holliston to Stow is around 45 min. Cathy was riding her bike from her house to her job which was right over the Stow border into Hudson which would make it even closer than 45 minutes.

    Holliston to Newton where he attempted kidnapping in Nov.is about the same amount of time: 35 min., except going into Newton is more congested area w/ traffic.
     
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    My husband is from Holliston, MA and remembers the company John Whirty worked for was called "Child Life". His job was delivering and assembling their product to homes, businesses, etc.

    http://childlife-inc.holliston.ma.playgrounds.tel/

    My husband says Worcester Road (Rt. 9/ Rt. 30) is a heavily travelled back road that connects to main highways and other heavily travelled back roads.

    https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Worcester+Rd,+Framingham,+MA&hl=en&ll=42.298961,-71.44392&spn=0.036186,0.077162&sll=42.182492,-71.268491&sspn=1.1601,2.469177&oq=Worcester+Rd,+Framingham,+MA&hnear=Worcester+Rd,+Framingham,+Massachusetts&t=m&z=14
     
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    This is a very interesting partial article from the Boston Globe. It states that John Whirty was spotted standing on the side of the road with his car pulled over, on the day of Sarah Pryor's disappearance, and WHERE she disappeared from. This mimics his *EXACT* stance, strategy/method when he attempted to kidnap the Newton woman on 11/1985 (one month later):


    http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-8159730.html

    Can anyone help me with information on how to access newspaper articles like this one in the Boston Globe without paying crazy fees or signing up for 7 free days, etc??
     
  14. SkiptomyLu

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    I created a map of where John Whirty was standing, and where his running car was pulled over on the street on Nov. 1985 when he attempted to kidnap a Newton MA woman at knifepoint. I also pinpointed where the Newton woman and I were headed (subway).
    These incidents mimic JRW's precise stance, strategy/method that the witness relayed to LE in relation to Sarah Pryor's disappearance (see above post):
    https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=207325500379902122298.0004d7af95bef17f2a487&msa=0
     
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    For several years, I grew up next door to John Whirty. Or rather Johnny Whirty, as we all knew him. It was from 1950-1954, in Wellesley Hills, Massachusetts. It was on a quiet street in a middle class neighborhood of single family homes, and Johnny lived in the house next to ours with both his parents and his sister, who I think was maybe a year younger. We moved to another state in 1954 and I never saw him again, nor did I ever hear from him.

    I think it's the same person as John Whirty, the convicted murderer. His age is exactly right (same as mine) and his Massachusetts origins match up. I googled Johnny the other day to see if he was still around and needless to say, I was stunned at what I found, the dreadful crimes he's committed and is suspected of committing.

    But back then, he was a totally normal little boy, and we played with other kids in the neighborhood our own age. I combed my memories and can't come up with anything at all, not even the slightest indication of the man he would become. He was good-natured, he never got into trouble, was respectful around his parents (and mine), and got along with all the other kids, playing normal games.

    I could find no photograph, however, not even a mug shot on the Texas prison website, so there is still a very tiny sliver of doubt that the two Whirtys are one and the same. But I'm nearly 100% positive they are.
     
  17. bessie

    bessie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    Welcome to Websleuths, Key West Mike! That's quite a story. Makes me think twice about looking up old friends. :)

    I'll dig around a bit. There must be a photo of Whirty somewhere.

    Hope we'll hear more from you.

    :welcome5:
     
  18. bessie

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    You weren't kidding, Key West. This was the only image I could find. No mugshots, no pictures in any news articles. I hope this will help you out.

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  19. libowski

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    key west - do you mind telling me the street you grew up on in wellesley? i grew up on edge hill road. in 1984 or 1985 (i was in first grade) i had a scary experience while waiting at the bus stop by myself. a man drove by me very slowly and was staring at me. i was only 7, but it made me very uncomfortable and i knew something was not right. i ran across the street to tell my parents.... wellesley is nice town and my parents told me not to worry and they would keep an eye on me out the window. i don't think they took me seriously at first and thought i was imagining things...

    the guy went around the block again and pulled over his car at the end of the street (out of direct view of all the houses on the street). he left his car running and got out and started walking towards me a bit and motioned/waved for me to go and talk to him. i started to walk across the street towards my house and my dad came out the front door and walked down the driveway towards the guy... the creep jumped in his car and sped off, literally peeling down the street. my dad ran after him, but he drove off too fast and my dad couldn't get the license plate.

    it was 30 years ago, but i remember it like yesterday. my dad called the police, but i don't think anything ever came of it... i didn't know about sara then because i was so young, but i wonder if the guy that approached me could have been whirty...

    i was in first grade in 84 / 85 and wellesley is right near wayland (and apparently he grew up in wellesley as well). scary stuff.

    do we know what his car looked like? i would like to see a picture to see if i recognized it.
     
  20. sstoker

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    It gives a 404 error message- really no one can find a photo? would you min reposting what you did find?

    [​IMG][/QUOTE]
     
  21. MikeDennis

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    The name of the street is Dunedin Road, and it's in Wellesley Hills, not Wellesley. Johnny and I lived right next door to each other. Hope this helps.
    --Key West Mike
     

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