Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #25

[JB1510]

Willing & Wishing for a MM snuff / movie ?
Best off now eh ? How extremely insensitive
and distasteful.

For the last time , anything that is official from Germany pay attention , anything else official pay attention be it Portuguese court transcripts or German . In regards to JC interviews with associates or people who knew CB take on board what they say it won’t all be true but it’s important in building a profile of CB

 

[Lilly b]

There really is no need to go to such great lengths to debunk all this silly stuff in the book, really!.
This is stuff we laugh about, we don't have an axe to grind with JC.
What you said has already been posted, (nearly word for word) on CMOMM.

I also think that the book is informative for people, that are not on here, and don't look into it as much as others, if you get me, and of course it's over exaggerated, but most things are, especially if you watch things on crime channels etc that's life unfortunately

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

I just want to know who in the under Jesus would be uploading fake CP media to ICSE? The specialist child exploitation investigators that have access to it? Is that what you’re trying to imply?

No. By "fakes" I mean for example pedophiles that create photoshoped images of MM and share those on pedophile forums like darkweb forums, etc. Let's say known images of child abuse photoshoped in a way that the true face of the abused child is replaced with MM face. Those type of content when found is added to ICSE as well even if known to be "fakes".

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

There really is no need to go to such great lengths to debunk all this silly stuff in the book, really!.
This is stuff we laugh about, we don't have an axe to grind with JC.
What you said has already been posted, (nearly word for word) on CMOMM.

This is the kind of stuff that matches this :

Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #25

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

Would I be right in saying that if they say charged him tomorrow, that would mean they would have to share the evidence they have? And so that's why they won't charge him yet, imo

So if they don't intend to share what they have EVER that would mean as well that they won't charge him ever ! Simple. Because by now more than 1 year has gone by and if they didn't get all the info they needed with that public appeal it's not now or in the future that the info that they will will appear like by magic.

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

Willing & Wishing for a MM snuff / movie ?
Best **** off now eh ? How extremely insensitive
and distasteful.

For the last time , anything that is official from Germany pay attention , anything else official pay attention be it Portuguese court transcripts or German . In regards to JC interviews with associates or people who knew CB take on board what they say it won’t all be true but it’s important in building a profile of CB

Many members of WS keep talking about this and keep on thinking that the evidences that HCW have is related to what I mentioned even if there aren't any single "evidence" so far that goes intro that direction.

For people to be "wishing" so badly for such content to "exist" there must be a reason. And no, it's not me that thinks that such things do exist as I've been saying just the opposite.

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

There really is no need to go to such great lengths to debunk all this silly stuff in the book, really!.
This is stuff we laugh about, we don't have an axe to grind with JC.
What you said has already been posted, (nearly word for word) on CMOMM.

You shouldn't be buying a book that is providing $$$ to the author when the book is about a missing child and at the same time is full of "silly stuff" that "we laugh about". Also if the book is full of that how to be sure that the rest of info there is valid ? If it's full of lies and stuff that one knows it's not true why to trust anything that is written there to start with ?

 

[vermisstekindersuche]

But sure, if the book does have some stuff worth discussing here please do so ...

 

[tedtink]

Many members of WS keep talking about this and keep on thinking that the evidences that HCW have is related to what I mentioned even if there aren't any single "evidence" so far that goes intro that direction.

For people to be "wishing" so badly for such content to "exist" there must be a reason. And no, it's not me that thinks that such things do exist as I've been saying just the opposite.

Nobody is 'wishing' anything! FFS
We're talking hypothetically about this.

 

[Lilly b]

There really is no need to go to such great lengths to debunk all this silly stuff in the book, really!.
This is stuff we laugh about, we don't have an axe to grind with JC.
What you said has already been posted, (nearly word for word) on CMOMM.

I also think that the book is informative for people, that are not on here, and don't look into it as much as others, if you get me, and of course it's over exaggerated, but most things are, especially if you watch things on crime channels etc that's life unfortunately

So if they don't intend to share what they have EVER that would mean as well that they won't charge him ever ! Simple. Because by now more than 1 year has gone by and if they didn't get all the info they needed with that public appeal it's not now or in the future that the info that they will will appear like by magic.

Have you heard the saying its a marathon not a sprint?
It will take as long as is needed, gather everything you can, and then boom, that's how I see it, Rome wasn't built in a day

 

[Lilly b]

So if they don't intend to share what they have EVER that would mean as well that they won't charge him ever ! Simple. Because by now more than 1 year has gone by and if they didn't get all the info they needed with that public appeal it's not now or in the future that the info that they will will appear like by magic.

And I'm sure they said they got over 1k bits of information, so that takes time

 

[tedtink]

You shouldn't be buying a book that is providing $$$ to the author when the book is about a missing child and at the same time is full of "silly stuff" that "we laugh about". Also if the book is full of that how to be sure that the rest of info there is valid ? If it's full of lies and stuff that one knows it's not true why to trust anything that is written there to start with ?

If you're feeling a little triggered by what paedo's do to children, except those who you say just 'love' children, I'd suggest this isn't the place for you.

 

[Anxala]

There really is no need to go to such great lengths to debunk all this silly stuff in the book, really!.
This is stuff we laugh about, we don't have an axe to grind with JC.

On balance, I think this is the right approach. My personal reservations aside (which I've posted about earlier in the thread), at base, he's just another in a long line of people who see this case as an ongoing money-maker. Nothing to get all in a knot about, let alone give it the type of attention it's generating in some quarters...

Back to waiting for HCW and Co to reveal their hands.

 

[snowpea666]

Many members of WS keep talking about this and keep on thinking that the evidences that HCW have is related to what I mentioned even if there aren't any single "evidence" so far that goes intro that direction.

For people to be "wishing" so badly for such content to "exist" there must be a reason. And no, it's not me that thinks that such things do exist as I've been saying just the opposite.

Im sure we all hope that MM was removed from her bed by someone who just innocently wanted to spend a lovely time with the beautiful baby and not harm her at all, or give her to a lovely couple who needed her to love and give a fantastic life to ! Sadly that's wishful thinking, however when a child is stolen like this it sadly is only for one or two reasons, How dare you suggest that most of us wanted pain and death for MM ! totally disrespectful to all of us who have tried to for years to try and help in some very small way to get justice for MM so she and her family can finally have some peace.

 

[tedtink]

You shouldn't be buying a book that is providing $$$ to the author when the book is about a missing child and at the same time is full of "silly stuff" that "we laugh about". Also if the book is full of that how to be sure that the rest of info there is valid ? If it's full of lies and stuff that one knows it's not true why to trust anything that is written there to start with ?

I can't believe you spent $50 on useless cr@p just to leave a scathing book review for a book you haven't read! What did you buy from Amazon? A chocolate fire guard?
JC does have a point regarding these so called book review 'trolls' don't you think?

 

[Anxala]

So? They suspect CB of MM's murder based on their evidence, so why bother asking where it came from? That seems a rather naiive approach given that once they begin questioning they also have to grant the defence access to all their other evidence. What if the vid shows an unknown man, it's easy enough for CB to deny being that person, he could come up with any number of stories. But then, what if someone has captured a pic of him somewhere earlier that day wearing the same clothes? A lot harder to convince a judge of it being a coincidence then, and from what HCW has said, it seems like it might be something as simple as that is what they need to have confidence the charge will result in a prosecution.

HCW asked the PdL holidaying public at large to look through their holidays pics/vids for possible images of CB. Although whether that was just to establish his presence in the vicinity pre-MM disappearance or for other purposes - as per your BIB above - who knows?

Not so much that they matched the date of the video (if that's actually what they have), more that images of him wearing clothes at some/any recent point identical to the clothing in the video would be presumably a step forward for them...

Anyway, back to waiting.

 

[Dlk79]

So if they don't intend to share what they have EVER that would mean as well that they won't charge him ever ! Simple. Because by now more than 1 year has gone by and if they didn't get all the info they needed with that public appeal it's not now or in the future that the info that they will will appear like by magic.

Where on earth are you getting all this from? How do you know what evidence they have already gathered so far or may yet find in the future? Where has HCW said they won't EVER share what they have? He has said just the opposite.

I find it quite ironic how irate you are getting with a journo for telling 'lies' when you yourself are making stuff up! The same goes for your criticisms of HCW for accusing CB publicly and not telling us what the evidence is. You keep publicly accusing JC of lies on every platform you can find but won't reveal what these supposed lies are.

Here's some various direct quotes from HCW addressing the things we have been discussing -

"I sympathise with the parents but if we reveal more details to them it might jeopardise the investigation, We have concrete evidence that our suspect has killed Madeleine and this means she is dead. The parents have been told the German police have evidence that she is dead but we have not told them the details."

“We have gathered new evidence that adds further to the case we are building against our main suspect. I’m afraid I cannot tell you what it is but it strengthens our work. We are still building the case and at some time in the future we shall share the details with the suspect and his lawyer — but now is not the time.

"If you knew the evidence we had you would come to the same conclusion as I do but I can't give you details because we don't want the accused to know what we have on him - these are tactical considerations,"

“When the accused will be questioned depends on further investigation. But he will be questioned.”

“We are not in contact with the McCann family. Otherwise, we conduct our investigations as necessary. An interrogation of an accused often comes at the end of the investigation and is therefore not unusual."

"When the accused will be questioned depends on the further investigation. There is no fixed time for this.’’

"But you have to believe me when I say we have more evidence. Here in Germany our Public Ministry only divulges things when they are solid."

"At the moment our evidence is not so strong we are sure he will be sentenced by the court. Maybe we need more witnesses or photos or video. Maybe we need one witness who can tell us the things we don't know.'"

 

[Tekno]

You shouldn't be buying a book that is providing $$$ to the author when the book is about a missing child and at the same time is full of "silly stuff" that "we laugh about". Also if the book is full of that how to be sure that the rest of info there is valid ? If it's full of lies and stuff that one knows it's not true why to trust anything that is written there to start with ?

You seem to lack a basic understanding on how publishing houses operate. One has to submit a manuscript and if accepted, the publisher takes control of almost everything else, including cover, price, and royalties to be paid to the author (which is usually as low as 10%). Once accepted, the author has almost no control over publicising the book.

 

[Anxala]

You shouldn't be buying a book that is providing $$$ to the author when the book is about a missing child and at the same time is full of "silly stuff" that "we laugh about". Also if the book is full of that how to be sure that the rest of info there is valid ? If it's full of lies and stuff that one knows it's not true why to trust anything that is written there to start with ?

With respect, I think you might need to step back a little.

JC is a tabloid journo, he's written a tabloid, drama-laden, verifiably fact-deficient account of his 'search for the MM truth'. That's my personal opinion and I stand by it.

But no one is being forced to buy either his book or take seriously its content. The mere fact of buying the book doesn't equal buying into what JC is selling. Those who choose to buy (ie. pay money for) it have every right to do so and should be able to do so without the type of finger-wagging shame-war you're waging on them.

Ironically, you're the one continuing to take it seriously and giving him the attention you're asking others not to give him.

 

[mrjitty]

You seem to lack a basic understanding on how publishing houses operate. One has to submit a manuscript and if accepted, the publisher takes control of almost everything else, including cover, price, and royalties to be paid to the author (which is usually as low as 10%). Once accepted, the author has almost no control over publicising the book.

Isn't it self published?