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I don’t see any scoop…?
Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #39
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We can't quote the paywalled article here but that is what OP seems to say at least twice including the sentence posted up thread. Or maybe OP is just a bad writer.
I don't personally think he is a great Journalist and I firmly believe its more about headlines rather than facts with him.
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As the headline asks “when are they going to charge CB?” I don’t see any scoop here.
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It was the quote I put up which was removed. It wasn’t behind paywall though so I don’t know why it was.
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There's an article with Bild which is where HCW talks of continuing unchanged in the investigation concerning MM. So that puts that to bed.Proceedings in the 5 indicted charges and the MM are independent of each other the common denominator is CB.
BILD erklärt das Prozess-Wirrwarr: Und was ist mit Maddie?
Das bedeutet der jüngste Beschluss für einen Prozess gegen Christian Brückner, den Verdächtigen im Vermisstenfall Madeleine McCann. Und so geht es weiter.
www.bild.de
Google translate.
Judicial chaos surrounding the trial of Maddie suspects
Braunschweig – Another turning point in the investigations against Christian Brückner (46).
The Higher Regional Court has ordered: A possible trial against the man who is said to have kidnapped and murdered little Maddie McCann (then 3) in Portugal in 2007 must take place in Braunschweig. The Braunschweig regional court is responsible for the case.
Accusation, complaint, decision, complaint, decision – there has been a legal tug-of-war over a possible trial against Brückner for months. BILD explains the confusion – and shows how things could continue.
The case of Hazel B.
It has been known since June 2020 that the BKA and the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office are investigating the Maddie case against the convicted pedophile Christian Brückner (46). The suspect is currently in custody for raping an American woman (†72). The investigation revealed numerous indications of other crimes that Brückner may have committed.In October 2022, the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office finally brought charges: Brückner is accused of five further sexual crimes, including the rape of the Irish woman Hazel B. (then 20) in Portugal in 2005. Maddie's case plays no role in this prosecution.
The indictment was the starting signal for a legal exchange between the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office and Brückner's lawyer Dr. Friedrich Fülscher (39).
The defense attorney doubted whether the Braunschweig regional court had jurisdiction over a trial against his client: Before Brückner left Germany and went to Portugal, his last residence was in Saxony-Anhalt, not in Braunschweig.
The regional court in Magdeburg is therefore responsible for a trial.
The Braunschweig Regional Court upheld the defense attorney's complaint and declared itself not responsible. The public prosecutor's office again lodged an appeal against this decision. Now the Higher Regional Court decided: Command back, the Braunschweig Regional Court is responsible for a possible trial against Brückner.
This is how it continues
There are two scenarios for the further course of the procedure. Both are likely to end up before the Federal Court of Justice (BGH).It can be assumed that the regional court will open the rape trial in 2024. (The Maddie case still plays no role there.) Brückner's defense attorney has already announced that he will then challenge the jurisdiction again.
Scenario 1: The regional court upholds the defense attorney's complaint and again declares itself incompetent.
Consequence: The proceedings are discontinued. The public prosecutor's office lodges a complaint and the case ends up before the Federal Court of Justice.
Scenario 2: The district court rejects the defense attorney's complaint. The trial will take place, Brückner may be convicted.
Consequence: The defense appeals because of the question of jurisdiction, and the case ends up before the Federal Court of Justice.
No matter which scenario occurs, it will still be months before a final verdict is issued in the case of the five sex crimes for which Brückner is accused. The Maddie case doesn't play a role in any of this.
The Maddie McCann case
“The decision of the Higher Regional Court does not change anything for the investigation in the Maddie case,” said public prosecutor Christian Wolters to BILD. “We continued the investigation unchanged anyway because we were of the opinion that responsibility for all investigations against Christian B. lies in Braunschweig.”These investigations are still not completed: “They are still ongoing. The results of the search operation from Portugal are not yet available.” A reservoir was searched there in May, where Christian Brückner is said to have often camped.
There are still no charges in sight in the Maddie case.
According to Wolters, it is theoretically possible that the investigation into Maddie would be completed and charges brought against Brückner before the proceedings in the Hazel B. case were completed: “Both proceedings run independently of each other and have hardly anything in common apart from the accused. “
However, since the Higher Regional Court has asked the regional court to continue the current proceedings in the matter of Hazel B., among others, as quickly as possible, I consider it very unlikely that the Maddie investigation will be concluded before the end of the other proceedings,” the public prosecutor offers cautious hope a quick start to at least the first trial
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Right so Kai Feldhaus has definitive on the record quotes
No charges expected in the MM case before the end of the prospective HB trial.
Also when the 5 charges are relaid, the jurisdiction issue will end up in the Federal Court one way or the other
So at least optimistic for the MM trial in that Braunschweig is still responsible at this time, but no indictment expected in the medium term.
No charges expected in the MM case before the end of the prospective HB trial.
Also when the 5 charges are relaid, the jurisdiction issue will end up in the Federal Court one way or the other
So at least optimistic for the MM trial in that Braunschweig is still responsible at this time, but no indictment expected in the medium term.
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Yes it can finally be put to bed there is no impediment to the MM case from court issues.Interesting that the results from the dam searches aren't completed.
Until such time as the forensics are completed, analysed and the results returned to investigators the MM case is not complete making media speculation about laying charges a bit premature.
Building the MM case isn't finished until investigators have finished their work on it. Which in this instance they haven't until the results are in and only they know what else is in the pipeline and they are telling no-one. SY did point out at one stage they would not be carrying out a running commentary and no-one is.
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A Metropolitan Police spokesperson said: “We have no response to this — we will not be giving a running commentary of an ongoing investigation.”
The new suspect’s nationality was not revealed in current reports.
News website Expresso claimed: “The PJ (Policia Judiciaria) is following a tip received from Scotland Yard and sent recently to Portugal relating to the MM case, Expresso has learned from a judicial source.
“According to the source, it relates to a complaint made about a foreigner who was in Portugal in May 2007, when the English girl disappeared from a tourist complex in Praia da Luz.
“The suspect is no stranger to the Portuguese police. At the time the PJ investigated him on suspicion of being involved in cases of paedophilia but in light of the information coming from London, the investigators are looking into this case in more detail.”
The source told the website: “This is a line of investigation that is still open. Like others.”
The national criminal investigation police agency of Portugal is already said to have spoken to witnesses who could help in connection with the new lead.
Asked Friday to comment on the latest reports in Portugal, including a report about Portuguese police having a “new suspect” and “new lead,” Portugal’s Attorney General’s Office repeated an answer it gave last month to a question about whether Scotland Yard had formally requested more help.
“Regarding these facts, as is public knowledge, an inquiry in the Portimao section of the Faro DIAP Public Prosecutors Office is ongoing. It is under investigation,” a spokesman said.
Portuguese police probing ‘new suspect’ in Madeleine McCann disappearance
One must bear in mind that HWC is the official spokesperson for the Braunschweig Prosecutors' office and opine that he knows his business.
For example in a case totally divorced from either MM or CB this is acknowledged and further back in the thread are official links to this information about his status.
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HCW, a spokesman for the prosecutors, confirmed a search had taken place but declined to provide details, citing the ongoing investigation.
German prosecutors search Volkswagen in diesel probe
The public prosecutor's office in Braunschweig executed a search warrant... in the context of investigations direct
www.brecorder.com
I think 2019 is probably your best bet for dating as it is confirmed in other publications of the time which was critical as far as the investigation, as we now know, of CB was concerned. For example
BREAKING: New suspect in Maddie McCann case
Scotland Yard is currently 'in talks' with Portuguese police - by Milly Haddrick- 28 JUN 219
According to Express.com.uk, detectives from Operation Grange travelled to Portugal to meet with the Policia Judiciaria, the Portugal police force, following reports that a foreign paedophile has become a prime suspect in the case.
Portuguese police reopened the case of MM's disappearance in 2013, and according to the publication, have been openly cooperating with the British police ever since.
A source in the Portuguese coastal town of Porto told British newspaper the Daily Mirror: “The British were here recently, there were talks at the PJ office in the city.
“It’s all very secret but it always is with the MM case. Only the police know who the suspect is.”
Scotland Yard recently released a statement confirming that they are still actively investigating the case of MM: “The investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann remains ongoing.
“We are not providing a running commentary.”
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Quite,why go back over same old, we're now up to date,the MM case is completely separate from anything else, but no charges are likely any time soon.
It was news to me that there are samples from the search of the Arade reservoir which are still under investigation and prompted me to comment about it in relation to the MM case.
As far as I knew nothing had been found until that information became current on the forum from the Bild link? and the Olive Press and I replied to your post which mentioned an interest too.
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Items found by police in the search for new evidence in the MM case are said to have not thrown up any new clues, sources have said.
German prosecutors are said to have hit a ‘roadblock’ it has been reported.
Police have spent the last two weeks analysing items discovered during the search in the Barragem do Arade reservoir in Portugal, 30 miles from where Madeleine went missing.
Results of Madeleine McCann dam search offer 'no new clues'
German police have been analysing a number of items that were found during the search in Portugal.
metro.co.uk
So apologies for deflecting into dates and 2019 but I was answering a question
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The official statement last week said CB had a right to be be presumed innocent pending trial. Maybe someone should have told that to the official spokesperson for the Prosecutors Office?One must bear in mind that HWC is the official spokesperson for the Braunschweig Prosecutors' office and opine that he knows his business.
For example in a case totally divorced from either MM or CB this is acknowledged and further back in the thread are official links to this information about his status.
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HCW, a spokesman for the prosecutors, confirmed a search had taken place but declined to provide details, citing the ongoing investigation.
German prosecutors search Volkswagen in diesel probe
The public prosecutor's office in Braunschweig executed a search warrant... in the context of investigations directwww.brecorder.com
Is it your opinion that the Braunschweig Public Prosecutors' Office has overstepped the mark in some way with regards to CB?
Why do you think that no official complaint of any kind has been made by CB's legal team about any breaches? I've had a good look and can find none.
Please indicate what I am missing or why it is that FF hasn't complained about CB's mistreatment by the prosecutors?
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