Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #39

[Mex]

It is my opinion that he has made his feelings clear and not given him the assumption of innocence yes.

Thank you very much for that.

My opinion is that were there any hint of unprofessionalism from prosecutors, FF and his team would do their job and be right on it like a pack of dogs. While making the most they can from it to at the very least paint the prosecutors in a poor light.

The fact they have not suggests there is no complaint to be made valid or otherwise.

So - onwards and upwards towards the day when MM's case can be brought to trial and her parents might get an inkling of her fate.

 

[mrjitty]

Quite,why go back over same old, we're now up to date,the MM case is completely separate from anything else, but no charges are likely any time soon.

The concern I have is they indicted on the 5 charges last year. So the investigative phase of that is long over. Maybe to be charitable, they put their resources in to their strongest cases and MM was on the backburner. But that can't be true since Oct. '22

So what has been happening on the MM investigation in the last year or so?

We know that the reservoir was a much more recent tip. We are told the analysis isn't finished. But it does feel rather like they are stuck to me, if we can't even expect to hear about an indictment until after the current case. That is likely another 6 months or so. Certainly would appear to confirm that the case is in fact not in a state that it can be charged at the moment.

What do they expect to change?

Or is it just they will have to make an assessment by then one way or other?

 

[RichardKimble]

The concern I have is they indicted on the 5 charges last year. So the investigative phase of that is long over. Maybe to be charitable, they put their resources in to their strongest cases and MM was on the backburner. But that can't be true since Oct. '22

So what has been happening on the MM investigation in the last year or so?

We know that the reservoir was a much more recent tip. We are told the analysis isn't finished. But it does feel rather like they are stuck to me, if we can't even expect to hear about an indictment until after the current case. That is likely another 6 months or so. Certainly would appear to confirm that the case is in fact not in a state that it can be charged at the moment.

What do they expect to change?

Or is it just they will have to make an assessment by then one way or other?

What I think is clear from the Bild article at least is that there is no MO to link them, HC W said this.

"Both proceedings run independently of each other and have hardly anything in common apart from the accused. “

 

[Mex]

The concern I have is they indicted on the 5 charges last year. So the investigative phase of that is long over. Maybe to be charitable, they put their resources in to their strongest cases and MM was on the backburner. But that can't be true since Oct. '22

So what has been happening on the MM investigation in the last year or so?

We know that the reservoir was a much more recent tip. We are told the analysis isn't finished. But it does feel rather like they are stuck to me, if we can't even expect to hear about an indictment until after the current case. That is likely another 6 months or so. Certainly would appear to confirm that the case is in fact not in a state that it can be charged at the moment.

What do they expect to change?

Or is it just they will have to make an assessment by then one way or other?

Wasn't the alleged tip more tabloid speculation? We really have few verifiable facts to play with. The investigation is playing the evidence cards very close to the chest. Which is absolutely the correct procedure and the right thing to do.

Time may be of the essence. But that time has been a long time in coming and in reality the clock started ticking regarding CB as a periphery to the MM case which by that time had been in progress for twelve years.
Now that is a long, long time to be looking and a long time for a breakthrough to be achieved.

New Madeleine McCann Suspect Is German Man Already Accused Of ***** Sex Offences - Reports​

The reports come on the 12th anniversary of Maddie’s disappearance.

By Chris York
05/05/2019 08:47am BST

The latest suspect in the case of missing MM is a German man ...

He is one of two men who are currently the focus of detectives in the UK and Portugal and was not previously known to them.
______________________________________

Metropolitan Police Commissioner Cressida Dick

Dick said: “We have active lines of inquiry and I think the public would expect us to see those through.
“A very small team continues to work on this case with Portuguese colleagues and we have put in an application to the Home Office for further funding.”

New Madeleine McCann Suspect Is German Man Already Accused Of Child Sex Offences - Reports

The reports come on the 12th anniversary of Maddie’s disappearance.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk

One of those 2019 lines of inquiry was CB. Of course we did not know that then but we do now.

That line of inquiry is still open in 2023. It will be taken as far as it can go and what is the problem with that given that should he be indicted for crime against MM prosecutors have quite a bit of catch up time due to them if CB had twelve years to cover his tracks if guilty.

 

[Mex]

What I think is clear from the Bild article at least is that there is no MO to link them, HC W said this.

"Both proceedings run independently of each other and have hardly anything in common apart from the accused. “

MM case always has been a stand alone one. I don't recall anyone suggesting anything other than that.

Every criminal case is unique even if perpetrated by the same serial offender, particularly one with varied modus operandi.

 

[Vern]

Madeleine McCann Suspect Fails in Court Bid to Delay Trial

The primary suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann has reportedly faced a setback in his attempt to delay his trial in Germany.

knewz.com

Knewz.com has learned that Christian Brueckner, a convicted pedophile, and the main suspect in the case had sought to postpone the proceedings by requesting a change in the trial's location within Germany.
...
Investigator Hans-Christian Wolters expressed relief at the decision, stating, "It is always gratifying when your perspective is affirmed. The Regional Court determined that Christian B's last known residence was in Saxony-Anhalt, and therefore, we were the appropriate investigative jurisdiction for this case.

 

[Anxala]

Madeleine McCann Suspect Fails in Court Bid to Delay Trial

The primary suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann has reportedly faced a setback in his attempt to delay his trial in Germany.

knewz.com

Well that's really good news if the case. I'm just wondering who the original source of this story is. Above link is American and dated the 27th Sept and references The Express, a UK source, which has the exact same story on the 25th Sept... in which it claims that HCW gave a variation of that ^ quote to The Sun? Which implies it was The Sun that had the original story. I've had a google and can't find anything Sun-related to confirm that.

Maybe someone else can or, ideally, provide a reliable German source for this story.

I hope it's true though.

 

[RichardKimble]

Well that's really good news if the case. I'm just wondering who the original source of this story is. Above link is American and dated the 27th Sept and references The Express, a UK source, which has the exact same story on the 25th Sept... in which it claims that HCW gave a variation of that ^ quote to The Sun? Which implies it was The Sun that had the original story. I've had a google and can't find anything Sun-related to confirm that.

Maybe someone else can or, ideally, provide a reliable German source for this story.

I hope it's true though.

The Sun had the story on the 24th. Can't post the link, the sun is not recognised on here.

 

[Anxala]

Thanks, Richard.

 

[JB1510]

Well that's really good news if the case. I'm just wondering who the original source of this story is. Above link is American and dated the 27th Sept and references The Express, a UK source, which has the exact same story on the 25th Sept... in which it claims that HCW gave a variation of that ^ quote to The Sun? Which implies it was The Sun that had the original story. I've had a google and can't find anything Sun-related to confirm that.

Maybe someone else can or, ideally, provide a reliable German source for this story.

I hope it's true though.

@SuperdadV8 posted the original German reporting of the resolution of
the jurisdiction issue . It’s definitely confirmed and was never “thrown out “ as believed by a few posters on here .

Fortunately common sense prevailed
and the existing 5 cases can be heard in court.

 

[RichardKimble]

It's on the other thread, forgot about that.

Germany/Portgual - Christian Brueckner, 27 @ time of 1st crime (2004), charged with sexual assault crimes, Praia de Rocha, Portugal.

Has this been posted? https://oberlandesgericht-braunschweig.niedersachsen.de/startseite/aktuelles/presseinformationen/landgericht-braunschweig-ortlich-zustandig-225563.html

www.websleuths.com

 

[Anxala]

Thanks @JB1510 and @RichardKimble . I figured the original source must have been a German one because of the HCW quote translations.

Good news that things are now moving forward.

 

[mrjitty]

@SuperdadV8 posted the original German reporting of the resolution of
the jurisdiction issue . It’s definitely confirmed and was never “thrown out “ as believed by a few posters on here .

Fortunately common sense prevailed
and the existing 5 cases can be heard in court.

To be clear the charges were “thrown out” if one puts in that way because the first instance court declined jurisdiction. That means it declined to take the case.

That decision was appealed by HCW and he was successful in the regional court.

So now the first instance court can take up the case again or continue to decline.

Either way jurisdiction will then be appealed to the appeals court ( likely by the defence)

So at the end of the day the charges will most likely be taken up again at first instance and the defence will appeal that.

Alles klar.

 

[sl77]

Just watching ep1 of the Netflix series. I didn't realise at 10pm a family friend had seen a man carrying a child yards from the apartment!

To save me digging through 33 pages, is there much evidence against CB?

 

[RichardKimble]

Just watching ep1 of the Netflix series. I didn't realise at 10pm a family friend had seen a man carrying a child yards from the apartment!

To save me digging through 33 pages, is there much evidence against CB?

Nothing solid that is known, HCW spokesman for the Brunwiech office say MM is dead and that CB killed her, he's claimed this since 2020 but no charges have been laid, make of that what you will.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Just watching ep1 of the Netflix series. I didn't realise at 10pm a family friend had seen a man carrying a child yards from the apartment!

To save me digging through 33 pages, is there much evidence against CB?

I think you mean Tannerman. If you search that word, you will see a WEALTH of information to support and attack the credibility of this sighting. To say it's contentious is an understatement, so please review what has gone before and form your view.

To your question about the evidence against CB... another hugely debated point. We know there is evidence because it was made public during the appeal in 2020. Beyond this, the forum seems to fall into two camps. First, the prosecutors have more evidence, likely very incriminating evidence. Second, the prosecutors had what they shared at the appeal and a strong suspicion that more would turn up.

 

[sl77]

Nothing solid that is known, HCW spokesman for the Brunwiech office say MM is dead and that CB killed her, he's claimed this since 2020 but no charges have been laid, make of that what you will.

CB claimed he killed her?

 

[RichardKimble]

CB claimed he killed her?

Don't think it's claimed he's actually said that.

 

[Monic]

CB claimed he killed her?

No HCW said that

 

[Woodburnbay]

3 Years of focus on CB and he has never been charged or brought before a trial.
3 years then wasted in looking for the real culprit(s)
At least some will be sleeping better in their beds at night.