Malaysia airlines MH370 with 239 people on board, 8 March 2014 #26

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  1. Suglo

    Suglo Well-Known Member

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  2. drama_farmer

    drama_farmer "It's never just a mannequin"

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    I just watched a very good documentary on youtube about the mystery of MH370. Very easy to follow, and includes photos of the 18 pieces of recovered wreckage associated with the plane. Search for the channel LEMMINO and 370 from the YouTube search box. IMO MOO
     
  3. snowleopard

    snowleopard Well-Known Member

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    The loss of MH370 is really unprecedented in modern aviation. The loss of life is incomparable. In this modern age, with all of the data and search capacity applied to the loss, why haven't they found it yet? I thought this put things in perspective pretty well:
    List of missing aircraft - Wikipedia
     
  4. Roselvr

    Roselvr Ask me how to get your loved one in NamUs

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    IMO they effed up big taime in the beginning. They should have had enough time to hear the black boxes beeping. They also messed up with the TOMNOD debris photos; by the time they got there, the debris had sunk under the water.
     
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    gregjrichards Well-Known Member

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    Tssiemer Well-Known Member

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    For the life of me I just can’t figure out why the government would switch the plane/hijack it/ cover up a hijacking/etc. To who’s benefit? No one claimed ransoms or anything. You know what I mean?
     
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    Tssiemer Well-Known Member

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    Like the 9/11 truthers who say that flight attendant who called her husband on the hijacked plane was coached into what to say by someone you can barely hear in the background.

    WHY?

    Why would they do that? Why would the US government kill 100s (on the planes) and 1000s (in the towers)? Why? Are all those people alive in Bermuda now? WTH?

    So then where are these passengers? On that same beach in Bermuda? Siberia? Atlanta?
     
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  8. ilovepierre

    ilovepierre One day, the lost will be found

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    People just want their 15 minutes of fame.

    IMO
     
  9. watcher9

    watcher9 Well-Known Member

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    Yep, you said it!

    Here is another person writing his version of "the pilot did it" theory. No one knows what happened in this disappearance and crash but there is always someone willing to throw the blame on someone else. It's possible that someone's theory could eventually turn out to be the right answer but at this point, why drag the family through the mud just to have their 15 minutes of fame?

    Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 'disintegrated into confetti,' captain appears to have run ‘amok,' report says
     
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    ilovepierre One day, the lost will be found

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    I’m still baffled that a 777 can just disappear.
    If this had happened during daylight hours, I believe the wreckage would have been found sooner.
    More planes in the sky to see things...more boats in the ocean to see things..

    IMO
     
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    dixiegirl1035 Well-Known Member

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    A long, worthwhile, excellent reading article, thanks! I haven't Revisited this case for so long, my family member actually sent me the same link so I came here to post it and saw you already had.

    Then came July 29, 2015. About 16 months after the airplane went missing, a municipal beach-cleanup crew on the French island of Réunion came upon a torn piece of airfoil about six feet long that seemed to have just washed ashore. The foreman of the crew, a man named Johnny Bègue, realized that it might have come from an airplane, but he had no idea which one. He briefly considered making it into a memorial—setting it on an adjacent lawn and planting some flowers around it—but instead he called a local radio station with the news. A team of gendarmes showed up and took the piece away. It was quickly determined to be a part of a Boeing 777, a control surface called a flaperon that is attached to the trailing edge of the wings. Subsequent examination of serial numbers showed that it had come from MH370....

    By the time the airplane dropped from the view of secondary—transponder-enhanced—radar, it is likely, given the implausibility of two pilots acting in concert, that one of them was incapacitated or dead, or had been locked out of the cockpit. Primary-radar records—both military and civilian—later indicated that whoever was flying MH370 must have switched off the autopilot, because the turn the airplane then made to the southwest was so tight that it had to have been flown by hand. Circumstances suggest that whoever was at the controls deliberately depressurized the airplane. At about the same time, much if not all of the electrical system was deliberately shut down. The reasons for that shutdown are not known. But one of its effects was to temporarily sever the satellite link.

    An electrical engineer in Boulder, Colorado, named Mike Exner, who is a prominent member of the Independent Group, has studied the radar data extensively. He believes that during the turn, the airplane climbed up to 40,000 feet, which was close to its limit. During the maneuver the passengers would have experienced some g‑forces—that feeling of being suddenly pressed back into the seat. Exner believes the reason for the climb was to accelerate the effects of depressurizing the airplane, causing the rapid incapacitation and death of everyone in the cabin.
     
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    What if it were neither the pilot or the co-pilot?
    What if a hijacker was gaining control of the airplane about the time of the pass over from Malaysia to Vietnam?
    The pilot/co-pilot not giving the normal response on the radio could have been the first alarm that there may have been an hijacking going on.
    The climb of the plane could have been the second alarm that the hijacker was either fighting with the pilots or trying to gain control of the aircraft.
    They seriously need to look at the passengers again and/or the possibility of a stowaway or a rogue crew member.
     
  14. ilovepierre

    ilovepierre One day, the lost will be found

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    Hijack has been a top theory of mine.
     
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    Thanks so much for this link. First, it's the best, and most thorough, explanation I've seen yet. Second, it gives us a hero. Clearly, Blaine Gibson is a hero.
     
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    Roselvr Ask me how to get your loved one in NamUs

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    I just posted about the article on City-Data and am copying it here for anyone that wasn't here back then.

    The article tells about the possible sighting by Kathryn Tee who uses Saucy Sailoress on a sailing forum Cruisers Forum. There are a few great posts on her blog; Saucy Sailoress blog - see the Category: MH370. Here is the main thread on Cruisers Forum, I Think I Saw MH370.

    Kate, her husband Marc and another guy were sailing; at one point she believes she saw MH370 on fire. Unfortunately her hub and the other guy were sleeping. Marc sent in their GPS readings from when Kate believes she saw the plane. That's how they changed part of the route for MH370.

    Her hub Marc joined us here.

    For anyone that has not read her blog or the thread, there is a lot of info in them. I read the article you linked to a few days ago, spent the day rereading the blog. Kate and Marc believe there was a Military plane as well as Navy ships that should have seen MH370.

    She thinks it was shot down but I disagree with that because there should have been a lot of debris as well as bodies.

    “I thought I saw MH370 on fire” says Phuket yachtie

    Full report of interview about my sighting by Blaine Gibson.



    The article - What Really Happened to Malaysia’s Missing Airplane

     
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    Would that be normal to have a well-lit cockpit during nighttime flights or would the lights be dimmed? Or, could the cockpit be well-lit because it was on fire? Does the cockpit have a separate electrical system from the passengers?
     
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  18. ilovepierre

    ilovepierre One day, the lost will be found

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    I assume the cockpit would be lit so the pilot and copilot could still the controls/panel.

    IMO
     
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    gregjrichards Well-Known Member

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    The pilot of Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 was in control of the plane “until the end”, French investigators reportedly suspect, after gaining access to "crucial" flight data.

    The readouts "lend weight" to suspicions that he crashed into the sea in a murder-suicide, they were cited as saying.

    The revelations based on Boeing data came days after a new account suggesting the pilot may have been clinically depressed, leading him to starve the passengers of oxygen and then crash the Boeing 777 into the sea.

    MH370 pilot in control ‘until the end’, French investigators suspect
     
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    The above link refers to another story printed June 19th, not sure if it's been posted already (I couldn't find it here), about the pilot being depressed:

    MH370 pilot was 'lonely and sad' and may have 'crashed plane' in murder-suicide
     
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