Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #17

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Another issue they may strike when they finally get the black box locator going in April ... the topography of the ocean bed in that area contains underwater volcanoes that are seeping lava and constantly changing the ocean bed, forming ridges and valleys.


Even if the search does find verifiable wreckage from MH370 on the surface, marine geologist Dr Robin Beaman said underwater volcanoes would probably hamper efforts to recover the black box flight recorder from the depths.

Mr Beaman said the Southeast Indian Ridge cut directly through the search area, meaning the sea bed was rugged and constantly being reshaped by magma flows.

He said the ridge was an “extremely active’’ range of volcanoes sitting at an average depth of 3000 metres, which marked the point where the Antarctic and Australian tectonic plates are pulling apart.

http://mobile.news.com.au/travel/tr...nes-flight-mh370/story-fnizu68q-1226865929215
 
Map of today's search area which was later suspended due to bad weather.

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Investigators believe the pilot of MH370 was solely responsible for flying the plane hundreds of kilometres off course, an American newspaper has quoted a high-ranking Malaysian police officer as saying.

According to the report in the USA Today, the unnamed officer also told the newspaper there is no evidence of a mechanical failure or hijacking by a passenger.

The claims could not be verified by Fairfax Media, while Malaysia's Acting Transport Minister, Hishammuddin Hussein, has urged people to consider all those on board innocent until proven otherwise, including the pilots.

USA Today quoted the unnamed investigator, who the newspaper claimed had been on the case since the beginning, as saying police believe Captain Zaharie "deliberately" redirected the plane. The investigator was quoted as saying of those on board the flight, only the captain possessed the experience and expertise to fly the plane. ... co-pilot on the flight did not have the experience to manage such a diversion, they believe.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/mh370-pilot-responsible-says-us-report-20140327-zqnrx.html#ixzz2xA4XPA4X
 
AMSA (Australian Maritime Safety Authority) media release from much earlier today.

27th March, 2014: 10.45am (AEDT)

Today’s search and recovery operation in the Australian Search and Rescue Region for Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 is now underway.
Search activities today will involve a total of 11 aircraft and five ships.
Today’s search is split into two areas within the same proximity covering a cumulative 78,000 square kilometres.

https://www.amsa.gov.au/media/docum...ase_Update21_MH370_Aircraftdepartures_000.pdf

And if you check out this page in around 10 or so hours time a new media release will be available.

https://www.amsa.gov.au/media/
 
Investigators believe the pilot of MH370 was solely responsible for flying the plane hundreds of kilometres off course, an American newspaper has quoted a high-ranking Malaysian police officer as saying.

The investigator was quoted as saying of those on board the flight, only the captain possessed the experience and expertise to fly the plane. ... co-pilot on the flight did not have the experience to manage such a diversion, they believe.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/mh370-pilot-responsible-says-us-report-20140327-zqnrx.html#ixzz2xA4XPA4X


RSBM

I notice the article also says this ....


The official quoted by US Today said there was nothing amiss in Captain Zaharie's finances to suggest he did something drastic for money.

And the official was quoted as rejecting reports in British media that Captain Zaharie received a phone call moments before the flight was to depart from a woman who used a false name to obtain a mobile phone SIM card to make the call.

He was quoted as saying as far as investigators knew, he did not receive a call on his mobile phone at that time.


.... which suggests to me that IF Capt Zaharie did divert the plane seaward, it could have been due to confusion caused by hypoxia, or to avoid crashing on land and causing even more fatalities.

I'd hate to think his name was being smeared because his politics were different from the current Malaysian government.

I wonder if we will ever know for sure.
 
AMSA (Australian Maritime Safety Authority) media release from much earlier today.

27th March, 2014: 10.45am (AEDT)

Today’s search and recovery operation in the Australian Search and Rescue Region for Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 is now underway.
Search activities today will involve a total of 11 aircraft and five ships.
Today’s search is split into two areas within the same proximity covering a cumulative 78,000 square kilometres.

https://www.amsa.gov.au/media/docum...ase_Update21_MH370_Aircraftdepartures_000.pdf

And if you check out this page in around 10 or so hours time a new media release will be available.

https://www.amsa.gov.au/media/

I think it's been postponed until tomorrow morning AU time, morning in about 12 hours.

From yesterday:

An international search team of 11 military and civilian aircraft and five ships had been heading for an area where more than 100 objects that could be from the Boeing 777 had been identified by French satellite pictures earlier this week, but severe weather forced the planes to turn back.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/27/malaysia-airlines-idUSL4N0MN4TE20140327
 
PETALING JAYA: Deputy Defence Minister Abdul Rahim Bakri today said that he erred in responding to questions as to why the Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) had not acted when they noticed MAS flight MH370 had made a turn back on March 8, before vanishing from the radar.
“With regards to my statement while debating the royal address, that RMAF assumed the turn back was directed by the air control tower, I would like to clarify that it was merely my assumption.
“After making further checks, I would like to clarify that my assumption was inaccurate,” said Rahim in a statement released by the ministry’s corporate communications unit.
Yesterday he told the Parliament session that the RMAF did not probe the unidentified aircraft signal caught on the military radar in the wee hours of March 8 because it ‘assumed’ the flight had been ordered to make the turn back by the civilian air traffic control tower located at the Kuala Lumpur International Airport.
“We thought the aircraft was non-hostile, we assumed the turn back was a directive from the control tower,” he said.





http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/ca.../27/defence-ministry-backtracks-on-statement/
 
Investigators believe the pilot of MH370 was solely responsible for flying the plane hundreds of kilometres off course, an American newspaper has quoted a high-ranking Malaysian police officer as saying.

According to the report in the USA Today, the unnamed officer also told the newspaper there is no evidence of a mechanical failure or hijacking by a passenger.



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/mh370-pilot-responsible-says-us-report-20140327-zqnrx.html#ixzz2xA4XPA4X


Gotta hand it to wolf blitzer. When he interviewed the USA reporter who filed this report, he clarified that this "report" was generated by a single Malaysian police contact, and he asked the reporter if he had gotten any collaborating affirmations from ANY other source. The reporter responded "no, but we are going to tonight." Since that would have been lazt night and since nothing else has been forthcoming about the "report" the skepticism of the three CNN experts who severely faulted the "report" as Blitzer nd the reporter looked on appears more reliable than the report itself. One pilot literally laughed on air as the assumptions within the report were being read by Blitzer, and ALL 3 on air experts attacked both the content of the report and the souce. Even the former NTSB head on the panel ( mary Schivao )dismissed the report.

The panelists all agreed that all of their sources made it clear that there was currently no evidence implicating the Captain or anyone else for that matter.

And, btw, the concept which was stated in the report that neither the first officer or anyone else on board could have done it was particularly derided by the panel. One panelist calling it a insult to first officers everywhere.
 
And, btw, the concept which was stated in the report that neither the first officer or anyone else on board could have done it was particularly derided by the panel. One panelist calling it a insult to first officers everywhere.

The first officer was transitioning to work on the Boeing 777-200.

The airline's first officers are trained to the same standards as the captains, Quest said he was told by airline officials. "The captain was very much in control, but the first officer was flying the aircraft."

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/08/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-first-officer/
 
Malaysia said on Thursday that it's sending a team to Perth to assist with the search for Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH370.

The team will consist of representatives from MAS, Department of Civil Aviation, the Royal Malaysian Navy and the Royal Malaysian Air Force, according to a press statement.

"This team will work closely with the Australian Rescue Coordination Centre to assist with the search operation,'' it said.


http://www.straitstimes.com/breakin...forts-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-20140327
 
The first officer was transitioning to work on the Boeing 777-200.

The airline's first officers are trained to the same standards as the captains, Quest said he was told by airline officials. "The captain was very much in control, but the first officer was flying the aircraft."

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/08/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-first-officer/

And he was the last person to speak.
And it was his first flight without being monitored by a check pilot
Why is Captain Shah the one being villified by the media?
 
The truth is, investigating authorities do not know why the Boeing 777 turned around from its scheduled flight path over the South China Sea.
Even more baffling is why and how it flew on for more than seven more hours before crashing into the far reaches of the Indian Ocean, one of the most desolate places on earth.
Could those on board have still been alive on a terror flight to nowhere?
The reason you haven’t seen authorities in Kuala Lumpur deny any of the dozens of theories that have dominated a media starved of verified information is because they cannot rule out any possibility.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/search-...tion-swirls-20140327-zqnoe.html#ixzz2xATHKZQY
 
Excellent article about the search area:

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/03/26/mh370_and_the_secrets_of_the_deep_dark_indian_ocean

Storms are the rule rather than the exception in this part of the world, plagued by the Roaring Forties -- the never-ending winds that howl around 40 degrees latitude south. The weather, combined with the fact that this zone, just north of Antarctica, is the only place where water can flow around the globe without hitting land, means that the waves are among the highest in the world. (Surfing is inadvisable.) That these are some of the deepest parts of the Indian Ocean, with a rugged and volcanic ocean floor, decreases the likelihood that the black boxes would be retrievable. All of which adds up to an almost impossible race against time: Those black boxes have limited battery life and will likely stop transmitting around April 7.

I hate to be negative, but I have to get this out. This is impossible. The area is too broad and too dynamic with weather, winds and currents. The search vessels are not fast enough to reach (days old) sightings before they move (either laterally or vertically).

A dog has a better chance of catching its tail. The vastness of this search is just too much. Part of me wants them to stop before there are more casualties.
 
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