Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #18

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CARIIS said:
Notice it just went basically forward, climbing as it got lighter due to fuel being burned off

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There have been significant changes to autopilot technology since Payne Stewart's LearJet 35 was built (1976??). That makes it hard to use that incident to predict how a more modern aircraft would react in a similar situation. I think of it as just an example of one *possible* reaction.
 
Brightbird said:
I haven't ever watched Richard Quest, but maybe it's hit him personally as he did the segment with the co-pilot very recently?
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Actually I don't blame him. He was probably sick of all the rampant wild speculation.
 
North and South Korea exchanged fire across a maritime border, South Korea's semi-officiaNorth and South Korea exchanged fire across a maritime border, South Korea's semi-official Yonhap news agency said.l Yonhap news agency said.


Today they announced that they have no problem using nuclear bombs -- terrific huh.........worlds gone mad

Report: North Korea 'would not rule out' new nuclear test

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/30/world/asia/north-korea-nuclear/?hpt=zite_zite2_featured
 
So let me see if I follow this most conclude not terrorism but....

Malaysia tightens flight security in wake of MH370

The pilot and a co-pilot are now not allowed to be left alone in the cockpit, even when one of them is taking a toilet break, according to a MAS circular.

On the ground, MAHB has made it mandatory for anyone taking an international flight to pass through two metal-detectors and undergo a body search before they board.

The travellers must now also remove their shoes, belt, jackets and any electronic devices such as cellphones and laptop computers for separate scanning. Bottled drinking water is not allowed to be brought aboard.

The United States, Britain and Australia had asked that security checks on all passengers flying to the countries be increased.

http://www.straitstimes.com/breakin...-tightens-flight-security-wake-mh370-20140331







And then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

US lawmakers see no evidence of terrorism in missing MH370

http://www.straitstimes.com/breakin...-no-evidence-terrorism-missing-mh370-20140331

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China media call for rationality over MH370

http://www.straitstimes.com/breakin...na-media-call-rationality-over-mh370-20140331
 
The Royal Australian Navy vessel Ocean Shield also started its long journey towards the search, towing a ''pinger locator''. It is a race against time to find the plane's black box before it stops emitting signals in four days.

The Ocean Shield could still be another four days away from the search zone and the man responsible for the black box search, Captain Mark Matthews, has described the mission as ''untenable''.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...lines-plane-20140331-35sz3.html#ixzz2xVykImW0
 
panthera said:
I believe it would all depend on if the plane is being controlled by a pilot and what the speed of descent is. I am envisioning, in this case, a plane on autopilot with no manual control, running out of fuel.

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They have tried to land Sully's flight in the Hudson on a simulator and iirc they haven't been able to make it. It is very rare and in both Sully and the Gimli Glider events the pilots had separate gliding experience and training as a hobby.

There is a reason that both air transat and the miracle on the hudson have stood the annals of time as rare flying feats.
 
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I think the security response was inevitable, regardless of what the reason this flight went down turns out to be. At this time, no one knows, Imo. It is one tangible thing they can work on in the meantime and there is probably no such thing as too much security.
 
Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott has confirmed that all hope is lost for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 by declaring all 'evidence' points to the plane going down in the southern Indian Ocean.

Speaking to reporters from the RAAF base in Pearce, north of Perth, Mr Abbott this morning defended the Malaysian prime minister's announcement via text message last week that the 239 passengers on board were dead.

'The accumulation of evidence is that the aircraft has been lost and it has been lost somewhere in the south of the Indian Ocean,' Mr Abbott said.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ays-owe-families-searching.html#ixzz2xWGMxnxf
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I wonder if he will get the same backlash the PM of Malaysia did for announcing all people are lost and the plane went down in the indian ocean
 
SilkySifaka said:
I wonder if he will get the same backlash the PM of Malaysia did for announcing all people are lost and the plane went down in the indian ocean
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If he does get backlash, it will be probably be the one and only time I'll ever defend something Tony Abbott has said or done.
 
Intermezzo said:
The transponder was not turned off before the final verbal communication, which was at 1:19am..it was turned off afterwards

you may be thinking of the ACARS system..that was believed to have been turned off before..but what we do know is that ACARS transmitted every 30 mins..it did transmit at 1:07am but the next transmission at 1:37am did not occur..

I have read ,at the link below, that the Transponder as turned off at 1:21am
At 1:22am MH370 should have reached the INGARI navigational waypoint

A timeline for missing MH370

http://abcnews.go.com/International.../story?id=22912595&ref=https://www.google.ca/
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I'm wondering if hypoxia could have been beginning before anything was turned off, and how that could happen. If the copilot said "goodnight" and if any one thought that odd, then maybe it could happen. I'm not sure how that would fit in with the plane turning and flying undetected though, as if it were intentional.
 
There is an interview here with Anwar Ibrahim ... speaking about Capt Shah.

Monday March 31 2014
The opposition leader says the pilot was a passionate advocate for democracy but his sentencing would be no reason to hijack a plane.

"...... passionate about the need for the country to move towards greater transparency and democracy. He's a very senior pilot, quite articulate and smart and a good family person."

"He supports fair and free elections ....... Coming down wearing a t-shirt, calling for free elections or anti-corruption, which of course attracts some attention among the rank and file members of the party."
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http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2014/s3974654.htm
 
The lessons from losing flight MH370

Amid the heartbreak of the loss of Malaysia Airlines flight 370, there are important lessons for the aviation industry and governments about how to handle such a crisis and make aviation even safer.

The moral is that in this age of global digital media, it is much harder for officials to manage the flow of information. Wrong information and rumours can spread like wildfire, so they must work doubly hard to keep everyone informed. There is also an enormous appetite for technical information, and if authorities do not provide it, others will.

The second lesson is that we have outdated systems to keep track of aircraft, and that they can be turned off, even though far more sophisticated technology has been available for nearly a decade.

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/smh-e...light-mh370-20140330-zqo47.html#ixzz2xWnDXELZ
 
March 31, 2014 6:42PM

ORANGE objects spotted by a search plane hunting for any trace of the missing Malaysia Airlines jet turned out to be nothing more than fishing equipment, Australian officials said.

The objects had been analysed and officials had confirmed “they have nothing to do with the missing flight”, a spokesman for the Australian Maritime Safety Authority has been quoted by CNN.

Earlier, Prime Minister Tony Abbott declared the search will continue for a long time to come, as authorities analysed a “promising lead” in the baffling mystery.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...nes-flight-mh370/story-fniztvng-1226869250467
 
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