Found Deceased Malaysia - Nora Quoirin, 15, from UK, special needs, missing on vacation, Seremban, 4 Aug 2019 #1

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  1. HayLouise

    HayLouise Law Student

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    Hoping they done this at the beginning
     
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    I'm not sure how valuable the fingerprints will be, it's a resort. Depending on what is cleaned/how well the cleaning is done, there could be innumerable fingerprints where the family was staying. MOO.
     
  3. HayLouise

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    You're right, but I think it's to rule in/out any criminals, they are checking to see if whether the prints could belong to a criminal or an outsider (assuming that means someone who was not a guest or a staff member)
     
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    That was my first thought as well, but I know nothing about fingerprinting. Are they able to detect "layers?" For example, Mom and Dad's fingerprints on a doorknob, but an unknown person's prints on top of them?
     
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    I would go with what the sister says. There’s a good chance Nora does things her parents don’t know about but which her siblings do. It’s interesting that the parents won’t let the siblings talk to LE anymore. I think they’ve set their minds on the fact that she wouldn’t wander off by herself and they don’t want anyone (especially her sister and brother) to put a kink in that narrative.
     
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    Exactly. In the beginning, I read in one article that she is non-verbal and now one of the reports from this morning, said she could speak English and French.
     
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    Wondering if they are looking at those closest to this scenario, parents, workers, and anyone living close by. If she was taken, has to be someone who know the area and know how to get in and out quickly.
     
  8. HayLouise

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    How come?

    Edit - Ok me being stupid.. know the answer!
     
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    OK I'm glad I'm not the only one. My thoughts on this fly far in the face of my usual "Occam's Razor" approach and at this point, it's just a gut feeling but something definitely isn't adding up. I have no reason to suspect familial involvement at this time but a lot about this case so far is atypical. My circumstantial feelings are:

    - Why did the family immediately say NQ was 'abducted' and broadcast this to the media? Malaysian police said they couldn't say one way or the other but the family and their spokespeople continued to bang that drum

    - Why did the parents immediately retain an attorney? I get they are in a foreign country but the behaviors since go against what you typically see

    - Everything else mentioned in Blondie's quoted post

    I'd also like to understand what developmental disabilities Nora specifically has. Might be helpful if others help search for her. Can she speak or or verbalize? Does she understand when people call her own name? How many ADL's can she perform - specifically transporting? I'm asking because if she is able to ambulate, you can't really say she "couldn't have" run off. It's likely she WOULDN'T have but the family has made it seem like she's almost an invalid that has no capability to do much of anything.

    I'd like to understand the extent of that. I don't ever like thinking or hearing about absolutes in cases like these - i.e. - "[Missing person] would NEVER wander off". While unlikely, you can't really say never unless they aren't physically capable. The family has made it seem like NQ isn't capable but I'm not sure how accurate that is.

    OK enough conspiracy theorizing - back to what we know. I'll let the Malaysian police do their job and see where the investigation leads. I do agree though the odds of finding NQ alive and well at this point are incredibly low. :(
     
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  11. HayLouise

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    Oopps. Thanks, will delete.
     
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    Things really aren't adding up here, there more that comes out the more confusing it gets.
     
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    What was the weather that morning? I can't get past the fact the dogs picked up no scent? So was she carried I wonder?
     
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    It's ok to say "there's a strange review over on Trip Advisor", but we can't link to/quote specific reviews as obviously they can't be validated!
     
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    Wouldn't it make it seem as if she got in a vehicle?
    I mean eventually the scent would dissipate, however, I would think that it would take a day or two and wouldn't the scent be stronger if she spent some time at a spot, like to take a rest?
    Just my own, over exaggerated musings
     
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    Maybe if there was a vehicle leaving after midnight or so? Or just investigate anyone leaving at night, to see if they saw anything?
     
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    Thank you!! This is why I don't usually post when I haven't followed the entirety of the thread. Lesson learned.
     
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    Don't worry, I did the same thing yesterday!
     
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