Found Deceased Malaysia - Nora Quoirin, 15, from UK, special needs, missing on vacation, Seremban, 4 Aug 2019 #1

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  1. Jealoushe

    Jealoushe Well-Known Member

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    Just wanted to say I had a window this style, 2 of them in my room and smaller, and at 16 I was able to easily go in and out of it. I used to this to smoke joints on my roof (yes I was a wild teen lol).
     
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    ms_x_to_the_m Well-Known Member

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    This person could have come in through the window and left by the door no? or …….
     
  3. slowpoke

    slowpoke Well-Known Member

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    Regarding shoes, fwiw I see what I think is 5 pairs of shoes in a rather scattered fashion just outside the front door on the concrete entry.

    Sumisha Naidu’s post (enlarge the first photo showing the exterior front door area)
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    Oh. Duh. You are probably right. :)
     
  5. AnnesCuthberts

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    I'm very grateful for Sumisha Naidu's coverage of this, especially in regards to pictures.
     
  6. Tortoise

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    Local time there now is 11.15pm.
     
  7. Razz

    Razz Well-Known Member

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    I'd like to know how the windows open. I wonder if you pull on it or have to crank it open.
    N. would have seen the window as she came off the stairs. Maybe she saw herself reflected in the window and went to it thinking it was family.
    I'd have someone who knows N. well
    go through the motions she must have gone through to get out of the window and beyond. Perhaps she became disoriented when she climbed or fell out the window. What would she have done at that point? I suspect she was terrified but was unable to make out the entrance to the house. Would she have walked?
     
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    Does the other side of the window open? Is that space big enough for her to fit through? It's rather small.
    They must have something for being insistent on her going through the window, right? is there a chime with the door open.
     
  9. slowpoke

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    I wonder if Nora is fond of cats and/or dogs? I believe on the TripAdv site were mentions or pictures of them wandering about the grounds, perhaps belonging to the resort owners?

    If she is drawn to them, perhaps she went outside early morning to see one outside their guest house.

    Also, if the pets do wander freely, I hope that means the area is not likely to have wild predators that would prey on them (and so that would likewise not be a concern for Nora if she’s in the resort grounds area.)
     
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    Hi, I’ve been reading this thread but first time to post.

    So the police have confirmed that N went out through the window - which matches N’s sister’s initial description. The sister clearly saw something then, why wouldn’t police look into it further? Are the parents/lawyers still wanting to shut up the kids? For what reason?
     
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    It warms my heart to see all these people so far away doing their best to find Nora
    Conversely, wondering if she encountered an unpleasant beast of some kind, (rodent, large spider ect) that scared her into scrambling to the window to get away?
     
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    HayLouise Law Student

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    Nora Quoirin mystery has chilling echoes of Madeleine McCann and Ben Needham’s disappearances, says top cop who worked on Maddie case


    Child protection expert Jim Gamble compared Nora Quoirin’s disappearance to that of Madeleine and Ben Needham – who both disappeared on family holidays.


    “Ultimately, the cases of children go missing abroad are so rare that we tend to know the names of all of them,” said Mr Gamble, who investigated Madeleine’s disappearance.

    “This is now one of three cases that are similar…Ben Needham who went missing many years ago, Madeleine McCann who is still on everybody’s minds and now Nora.”

    He spoke out as police in Malaysia released photos of a hotel room window which they say was left open at the holiday resort cottage where missing Nora was staying.

    After Madeleine’s disappearance Gerry and Kate McCann were forced to hit out at the “ridiculous” theory heavy shutters found open in the bedroom where their kids were sleeping had been opened by Madeleine.

    Mr Gamble now believes Brit experts should be primed to help solve the disappearance of Nora.

    He says the National Crime Agency has the experience and expertise needed to help investigate what has happened to the teen.

    Nora Quoirin mystery has chilling echoes of Madeleine McCann and Ben Needham’s disappearances, says top cop who worked on Maddie case - Usa Today Post
     
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    JerseyGirl Staff Member Staff Member Forum Coordinators

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    The case of the disappearance of Annapuranee Jenkins, who went missing in Penang on December 13th, 2017, is still unsolved. Jenkins had taken an Uber and was due to visit her 101-year-old mother in a care home, but got out of the Uber ahead of her destination and has been missing ever since.

    Jenkins’ relatives accused the police of inaction. Not even the Uber driver was interviewed, her relatives say, and reported sightings were not investigated.

    Two of the most well-known cases of disappearance in the Malaysian jungle - that of Swiss environmental activist Bruno Manser, who went missing in Sarawak on the island of Borneo in May 2000 and that of Jim Thompson, a former American intelligence officer turned textile tycoon, remain mysteries.

    Thompson went for a walk in the Malaysian jungle in March 1967 and never returned. Despite a massive search, no trace of him was ever found. On March 10, 2005, Manser was legally declared deceased.

    Nóra Quoirin search: local trackers and special forces deployed

    No thread for Bruno Manser but this is Jim Thompson's thread on WS:
    Malaysia - Jim Thompson, 61, Cameron Highlands, 26 March 1967
     
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    im beginning to think shes been taken

    could they have been followed from the airport? not a nice thought here but chosen perhaps
     
  16. MsMiniSleuth

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    You have to take into account that with her learning difficulties she may mentally process things quite differently to you or I.
     
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    I travel to 3rd world countries all the time. My kids have stayed for two months with my parents for two months there. I have wondered about travel insurance but that is about it. If that was the case, I wouldn't leave my country, honestly.
     
  18. nefes

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    If they're certain that she went through the window, I don't see how abduction would fit. If someone were going to take her, it'd make more sense to take her out the door. Squeezing her through a relatively small window would be more likely to make a lot of noise. It also doesn't fit with her parents doing something to her. Most likely she went out the window herself, for whatever reason, and got lost in the dark and rough terrain. Just my opinion , makes the most sense considering how certain they seem that she absolutely exited through the downstairs window
     
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  19. HayLouise

    HayLouise Law Student

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    Not from the airport. It’s just not feasible or undetectable. You would have more luck kidnapping them at the airport than in the malacca jungle! The route to this place isn’t a nice busy road. Any car would be spotted and make a considerable noise too.

    If taken, it’s a local with a grudge imo. However it is possible to never be discovered in thick jungle. I saw a post earlier of two experienced trekkers missing from last year
     
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