Found Deceased Malaysia - Nora Quoirin, 15, from UK, special needs, missing on vacation, Seremban, 4 Aug 2019 #1

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  1. CoverMeCagney

    CoverMeCagney Well-Known Member

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    We have had a couple of cases of tourists missing in Malaysia. One ended up being discovered after several days, really near to where he was last seen. The other is more recent and I don't think he was found. Hang on, I'll go look them up...

    EDIT Gareth Huntley was the first, in 2014. On Tioman Island. Found deceased after a couple of weeks just yards from his accom.

    The other is a Finnish guy - Nikitin Valtteri - still missing, also on Tioman island.

    Anyway, neither are mainland Malaysia and not at all connected to Nora's case.
     
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    I missed that. I am now understanding why the parents were so keen for the police to investigate the disappearance as an abduction. However, I'm still finding it hard to believe.
     
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    Yes, my daughter is the same age but she does not have a disability. There is no way she would go off on her own on the first day in a foreign country.
    She still asks me if she can go to the neighbors house to see her friend who lives right next door.

    If I woke up to find the window open and her gone, I'm pretty sure that I would worry that she was kidnapped too. Especially in a place we were unfamiliar with.

    In my experience with kids with similar disabilities, most are extremely predictable and tend to be habitual, especially concerning routines. It's a comfort to them. If there was any indication that she had sudden changes of behavior that would have been mentioned since it would be significant. Not that it's not impossible, just highly unlikely. Imo
     
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    GimmeAclueBlue Well-Known Member

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  5. MsBetsy

    MsBetsy Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but that is still not considered prepubescent.
    Girls begin to develop long before the age of 15. In fact some are fully developed by age 12.
    Pedophilia is a sexual attraction to children who have not yet developed, regardless of any type of disability.
    Girls 10-13 are pre-adolescents.
    Those younger are pre-pubescent. Imo
     
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  6. GimmeAclueBlue

    GimmeAclueBlue Well-Known Member

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    IMO it feels like the mother is doing everything the McCann's didnt as she saw the whole ugly ordeal play out (as we all did) and not favour Gerry or Kate till this day.
    I would take the same road tbh and no matter what I fealt I would praise authorities etc and tread v.v carefully as surely that's best for the missing child! No one wants another dirt slinging, book publishing death match when a child is still missing.
    The dad has not said much but looks haunted and clearly leans to his wife to say all the right things to get there daughter found IMO. (I could be very wrong with that) but he appears the polar opposite to Gerry.

    I have done nothing but hope this child returns ......day 9 makes me twitchy and SURELY there r footprints somewhere?
    Was nora wearing shoes or not?
    So so many questions unanswered ....
     
  7. Officer Dibble

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    I agree with the poster above who suggested N might have had a bed made up downstairs. I wonder if she fell asleep on it during the evening. They must have been exhausted all of them.

    One thing has occurred to me. N is 15 and despite having developmental delays (?) would still go through puberty at similar age to her peer group (I looked it up). When I looked it up it did say if your daughter is experiencing menstrual pain they might not be able to communicate that to you and might act strangely if in pain. There was also mention about mood swings like all teenage girls.
     
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  8. MsBetsy

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    I doubt she was wearing shoes if she was only in her underwear.
    They believe they may have found her footprints although I'm not sure that was confirmed or how they would know they were hers.
    Apparently her scent was picked up within 4000 feet of the resort but no further. Imo
     
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    I didn’t realize how large the window seems to me.

     
  10. GimmeAclueBlue

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    I dont visit often but this case brought me bk here as collectively we seem to have more info when pieced together in cases where it all goes sketchy and quiet IMO
     
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  11. GimmeAclueBlue

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    So so sad
     
  12. GimmeAclueBlue

    GimmeAclueBlue Well-Known Member

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    They never actually confirm anything though do they?
    Is it definitive that she was in her underwear?
     
  13. Officer Dibble

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    Is that THE window? It looks different to what I've seen here before. Maybe its the angle? Is it the same window we have all been discussing? I think this shows how high the window is off the ground.

    This video also shows how dense the undergrowth is.
     
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    Yes that is the same window we have seen and discussed before.
     
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    If this girl really did exit the accomodation on her own accord and went outside on her own she would not have got very far without shelter, water or food in this hot and humid equatorial country. Forest terrain is trecherous and extremely difficult for someone that apparantly has walking problems.

    This is a non starter. She would have been found closeby dead or alive by now.

    Leading explanation has to be sexual abduction. She was either lured or forced out of the accomodation window, kidnapped and probably bundled into a mode of transport and driven well away from the area.

    The police now need to focus on those window fingerprints and establish whether any other recent footprints have been left behind near the window. Without CCTV footage, the case will naturally be harder to crack unfortunately.
     
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    Happy to be corrected. However my issue is that the details are incorrect plus the actual new information provided isn’t anything substantial
     
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    I’d like to know what makes that window so difficult to open, and I’d also like to know why they seem so concerned about “unknown” fingerprints in a vacation cottage that’s used by probably at least dozens of people every year.
     
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    Jeez... that is a LOT of jungle. Not an easy terrain to search and I can't imagine drones get a much clearer view either.
     
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    My gut instinct tells me n came downstairs when it was light enough to go to the loo or get a drink of water. She sees a cat/dog outside that she had made friends with earlier in the day. Opens the window to pet it. Follows it. I don't think she has gone very far at all they need to concentrate searching within close proximity to where she was staying. My gut tells me she is so close to the chalet
     
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