Discussion in 'LISK Unidentified Victims' started by bessie, Jan 20, 2017.
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Here's something from an old article on some of the Manorville cases. The 2003 John Doe was found covered in twigs and leaves, also potentially better location descriptions than what NamUs gives.
Collecting the Clues / 4 unsolved deaths - and the scientists probing the case: [NASSAU AND SUFFOLK Edition] Samuel Bruchey. STAFF WRITER. Newsday, Combined editions; Long Island, N.Y. [Long Island, N.Y]24 Nov 2003: A07.
Speaking of NamUs the case file for the 2000 Manorville John Doe was updated on March 15th yet I do not see any changes to any info -still no rule outs listed. https://www.identifyus.org/en/cases/2725
Thank you, perhaps the update can only be seen on their end. What about this though? The first body was pulled from a plastic trash bag in the woods three years ago. Her head, hands and right foot were severed off. What was left had been chopped into chunks
I'm posting this here because this is one of the most challenging unidentified cases to find matches for (lack of info) but it pertains to all here...
I believe that SCPD does not enter all of the Missing Persons cases into NamUs, in fact, probably a small proportion. Here's why (based on 2014 populations and current NamUs listings)
Pierce County, WA (Tacoma) population: 831,928, MPs in NamUs: 103
Suffolk County, NY population: 1.503 million, MPs in NamUs: 59
Wayne County, MI (Detroit) population: 1.765 million, MPs in NamUs: 220
I suspect that only a small amount of the missing adults make it into NamUs from Suffolk County. Missing children, college students and vulnerable adults are in the NY Missing Persons Clearinghouse http://www.criminaljustice.ny.gov/missing/#/ and probably eventually make it from there into NamUs. These types of missing persons are probably required to be reported to the MP Clearinghouse. But I think that any other missing adults are never entered unless their family advocates for it. Considering how much time I have invested into searching for matches for these unidentified cases :banghead: I find this very discouraging. Is there any agency for oversight with this since the 2016 legislation in NY? Would this be of concern to the FBI?
Take a look at the posts in "will the long island serial killer be caught thread" page 48 on. Possible poi
Plenty of Latino males missing around that time in the tri-state area to choose from...I've seen varying ages for John Doe (one article said age 20 - 30 and NamUs says 30 - 45). Some of these men are listed as being heavier than John Doe but whoever gave their weight estimate may have just been guessing and it's also possible that they lost weight after they went missing, especially if they were using drugs and/or living on the streets. Also, some of these men have tattoos but it sounds like the body may have been decomposed enough that any tattoos weren't able to be found on John Doe?
20 years old, 6'1" (may be too tall), 185 lbs
Missing from Mastic Beach in Suffolk County, Long Island since 5/21/98
19 years old, 5'9", only 130 lbs (very thin, noted as "thin build")
Missing from Corona, Queens since 7/9/98 (Queens is near Long Island and came up often in clues on "The Killing Season")
32 years old, 5'3" - 5'5", 150 - 170 lbs
Missing from Manhattan since 3/26/91
Jose "Chico" Flores III
25/26 years old, 5'9" - 5'11", 150 - 180 lbs
Missing from Greenpoint, Brooklyn since 7/26/94
(some others have mentioned him previously in the thread)
24/25 years old, 5'6" - 5'8", 145 - 155 lbs
Missing from Danbury, CT since 2/10/96, car found in NYC garage
45 years old, 5'11" (may be too tall), 170 lbs
Missing from Manhattan since 3/9/97
Diabetic, so that could account for the weight loss?
22 years old, 5'5" - 5'6", 145 - 150 lbs
Missing from Pennsylvania since 4/28/99 but was supposedly on his way back home to NYC
Victor Richardson III
24 years old, 5'8", 140 - 145 lbs
Missing from Perth Amboy, NJ since 5/10/00
Great find Western Artist.. seriously you do really good research!!!.. I just came across this guy also and wanted to post this other guy I found.. I know he went missing in 1998.. but its enough time to sort of get messed up on drugs and end up in long island.. The guy just reminded me of the Atlantic City UID but I could not find a thread for him so I decided to add him here.. I also do wonder if he has anything to do with the Mannerville John Doe
Another good one was a known Gay Bar called Thunders... I went with my best friend a couple of times, he grew up near it. It never dawned on me until I read Your post Scotiansleuth!!!!..and I looked it up.. it no longer exists.. But it was in Huntington..and Huntington was where John Doe with the Atlantic City Tshirt was found.. I don't know if he would be connected to that bar or what.. I know that I went there circa 1998 not sure if it was still opened by 2000..I think it was but not sure.. Anyway I thought I would post it. https://www.yelp.com/biz/thunders-huntington
Long Island Serial Killer Suspect & Luka Magnotta Allegations
Allegations have been made against Luka Magnotta that he was involved with The Long Island Serial Killer and helped him...
1. Luka was a former escort in Long Island and Fire Island New York
2. Met escort client on Craigslist. This man coerced Luka to help him find women to kill.
3. Blackmailed Luka into participating.
4. The man put the women into garbage bags and Luka helped.
5. Disposed of the women's bodies in parks and rivers with Luka's help.
6. Found Asian female on Craigslist who turned out to be a man.
7.Dismembered people in 2006.
8. April 2010 killed Shannon Maria Gilbert. Stabbed her with the L.I.S.K. and put her body into the water.
9.Put another woman in a suitcase in 2012.
10. Natasha Jugo was killed.
11. Luka involved with selling people into sex trade.
12. The Long Island Serial Killer is a former cop who also worked for park services and Luka got away from him.
13. Luka refuses to get involved for fear of accomplice charges.
I wrote to Luka Magnotta and he denies everything and referred me to his lawyer
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If Luka really has knowledge of who this person is, I'm almost certain he could get immunity for those crimes as it would catch the bigger predator.
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Where did the above information come from? It sounds over the top.
Just heard of this and its not that far fetched very interesting google it there are a few things on it
It is far fetched. 100% fabricated.
Not if you look at it from the perspective that the DT said the phone calls made the guy sounded younger then the profile for lisk
I cant look at it from different perspective.
Iam having a hard time believing the Luka thing involved with the LI serial killer.. I never recall him being on Long Island and I also know he is obsessed with fame and is known for going on line and writing crap about himself and pretending to be other people. That is how he got caught.. he was at a place on a public computer..